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Comments on news posted 2014-02-13 09:51:22: Verizon Wireless has been trying to stay on the sideline of AT&T's small price skirmish with T-Mobile, though that's slowly started to change recently with a series of small new promotions the company has been running. ..

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Kasoah

join:2013-08-20
Merced, CA

wau

wau, 1 whole gigabyte more
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

Re: wau

Or 100% more. That is obviously a MUCH better deal than the previous one. We should acknowledge that competition is alive and Tmobile IS impacting now big red which is EXACTLY what we want. I say thank you Tmobile. Please don't sell out to Sprint and go down the drain with them

We are getting more for less every day...and it gets better. Last time I recalled when I was a kid our families Bell bill (Nynex in our case) went up every year like clockwork and innovation was non-existent other than say dial tone for 20 years. Another industry (cable) reminds me of the old days too... In 20 years I can't imagine where we will be due to innovation and companies like Verizon, AT&T, etc risking their capital to do so....

ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

1 recommendation

Re: wau

Percentages are like statistics, you can make them say anything you want. There are times when percentages should be used and times when they should not. This is one of those time they should not.
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

Re: wau

well the average user consumes approximatel 750mb, so the 1gb plan moves a lot of people out of the red zone and the 2 gb now gives some room. If you spend five minutes making sure DL and the like are not happening on cellular and you keep video to a minimum, you can go under a GB. Wifi pay attention to that too.

Also many MVNO offer throttling plans if you go over your limit. For those on shared plans, going over either change behavior or move to throttle plans, or continue paying overages. There are options...
Happydude32
Premium
join:2005-07-16
kudos:1

Re: wau

I used not quite 12 gigs in my first month back with Sprint, so I guess that means I'm above average. And I'm paying $50/month less then I was when I was being raped by those assholes at Verizon paying for 8GB of data.

I like how that shit stain of a company took away unlimited data, forced new subscribers into the Share Your Paycheck With Us Plan and now give subscribers a whole 1GB extra of data and they act like people should be grateful, praise them and bow down to them. Fuck you Verizon, you dirty scumbags!
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stonecaster

join:2010-10-17
90% of all statistics can be made to say anything.........................
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Mr Guy

@charter.com
said by Kasoah:

wau, 1 whole gigabyte more

If you were on a 1 Gb or 2 GB plan then yes having 1 more GB to work with is quite a bit. Not everyone uses a ton of mobile data. If you have access to wi-fi why use your mobile data?
decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1

Re: wau

said by Mr Guy :

If you were on a 1 Gb or 2 GB plan then yes having 1 more GB to work with is quite a bit. Not everyone uses a ton of mobile data. If you have access to wi-fi why use your mobile data?

Thats the problem, those of us with no other options but the phone data are pretty much getting hammered while apparently the rest of the world has at least cable or dsl in some form or another to switch to at home.. And before anyone puts on their sweater and smug glasses and says it.. We don't "all" live in a rural area when we are not serviced by neither cable or the teleco. Sometimes, areas just seem to be over looked even though people are willing to pay (proof is two way satellites in yards) and yet the service doesn't come for whatever reason... It definitely isn't for the lack of fiber, it supplies the phone equipment, the uverse down the road, and a freaking cell tower...

/end rant

jsme304

join:2009-10-16
Lampasas, TX
Reviews:
·WildBlue

My "Everything Data Share 1500 plan" w/ Sprint averages about 175.00 a month which includes 3 HTC 4LTE smart phones and unlimited 4G and 3G data coverage. Which is still cheaper than any other plan out there from from ATT, Verizon or T-Mobile. My Sprint coverage area is compatable w/ any other carrier plan.

So ya can say what you want about Sprint.. but it has done our family alright for 14 yrs straight...

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

Funny!

“Verizon Wireless led the way with the introduction of shared data plans...” the company insists.
Gee, that is something I would not be proud of. My sister and brother-in-law are on a shared plan and my sister leaves her iPhone 4S 3G turned off all the time because they were getting socked with overages. She lets my BIL use the shared data exclusively and deal with the overage charges himself. Sad when a company forces family members to be antagonistic.
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ctaranto

join:2011-12-14
MA

Re: Funny!

Interesting. I have 5 smartphones (all Android) on my Share Everything plan. We were on the 1GB plan (now 2GB) and still never went over our limit. When adding the 5th phone, even the Verizon sales robot was surprised. Is it an iPhone thing that it uses more data just being "on"?

We are on wifi most of the time and don't find it interesting to stream movies/videos on a 5" screen while driving in the car. The only data "hog" application we (very occasionally) use is navigation.

I'm pretty happy that my data allowance doubled for no charge. Thanks, T-Mobile!

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

Re: Funny!

said by ctaranto:

Interesting. I have 5 smartphones (all Android) on my Share Everything plan. We were on the 1GB plan (now 2GB) and still never went over our limit. When adding the 5th phone, even the Verizon sales robot was surprised. Is it an iPhone thing that it uses more data just being "on"?

iPhone's do use more data than most any other smartphone as studies have shown. Various apps and services are constantly checking in with the mother ship. When they got their 2GB shared plan, having been on separate plans, the data charges started kicking in. Basically they went from 4GB in total to 2GB shared.

I hate the idea of having to watch the meter and being careful not to get hit in the wallet. If I were on such a plan, I would prefer to either get throttled down to 56K or so, or have the data cut off completely. Neither AT&T or Verizon have any interest in that because it would not stick it to their customers. OTOH, I have Sprint through my employer and that data service is useless. In the two plus years I have had it, I have used at most 500MB TOTAL over that entire period and a major chunk of that was during superstorm Sandy when network performance actually got better. I have had 0KB of data usage since December and the Sprint bill shows no data activity on my line the last two months. I often wonder what it would be like to have a smartphone that is always connected.
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itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

Re: Funny!

quote:
iPhone's do use more data than most any other smartphone as studies have shown. Various apps and services are constantly checking in with the mother ship.
Cause people actually use the data on their iPhones. Study after study has shown that iOS users surf the web more, use more apps, etc. According to NetMarketshare.com, iOS has 54.96% of web traffic in mobile.

ctaranto

join:2011-12-14
MA

1 recommendation

Re: Funny!

Or they can't figure out how to use wifi.

Aoxxt

join:2010-12-13
Dearborn, MI

Re: Funny!

said by ctaranto:

Or they can't figure out how to use wifi.

I thought the promise of 4g/LTE networks was the freedom to leave home based internet behind and be a truly mobile society, I guess Verizon and AT&T lied to us again.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: Funny!

said by Aoxxt:

said by ctaranto:

Or they can't figure out how to use wifi.

I thought the promise of 4g/LTE networks was the freedom to leave home based internet behind and be a truly mobile society, I guess Verizon and AT&T lied to us again.

4G LTE is not anywhere close to being a replacement for regular internet. And IF they did say that they said that in time before Netflix and video streaming in general was not using much data. And IF they said that I'm pretty sure they said "In 2014 LTE will replace cable/DSL". 2024 Maybe. Until then honestly do I have to read griping for a decade?
decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1
said by Aoxxt:

I thought the promise of 4g/LTE networks was the freedom to leave home based internet behind and be a truly mobile society, I guess Verizon and AT&T lied to us again.

No no no, you can, but you have to bring your wallet or swipe your creditcard and pray you have one hell of a limit

Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:25
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Frontier Communi..
I might be mistaken, but wasn't there an article on this site a few months ago stating that Android phones realistically used more data on average? I know iPhone users are pretty data hungry, by most of that stems from stuff like Facebook, Twitter and Snapchat always running and burning up data. Or for that matter just the app frenzy. My phone has a minimal amount of apps thanks to Chrome being awesome.

At lease in my experience, Android phones have eaten up more data at a more erratic rate. The iPhones at my home run 300MB on average, peaking at 1.8GB some months. The Android phones, average 4GB and its not out of the norm for my phone to smack 20GB across the face (can't tether, since I'm on a special unlimited plan).

Not totally scientific, and I use Android personally.

Mr Guy

@charter.com
said by n2jtx:

I hate the idea of having to watch the meter and being careful not to get hit in the wallet.

Let me ask you if your water or electric bill gave you unlimited use for one price would you care if you left the lights on or had energy efficient appliances. Would care if you left water running or had leaky pipes? Nope. Now what would the consequences of that be?

If I were on such a plan, I would prefer to either get throttled down to 56K or so, or have the data cut off completely.

The FCC forbids Verizon from doing that. T-Mobile can and that's why they do it. By the way you can turn off the mobile data on your phone yourself. In fact my phone has setting where it will do it automatically one it reaches a certain limit.

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

Re: Funny!

First, water and electricity are a tangible physical product. If I consume more water or electricity, there is a reduction in a physical commodity be it the water itself or the fuel used to make the electricity. Data is not a physical commodity.

Secondly, the way data pricing works, if I go 1MB over my allotment I will get dinged $10-$15 for that MB. If I had to go metered than charge me per KB or MB. If I am charged $.10/MB and I use 5MB in a month, I pay $.50. The telco's would never go for that because people would certainly watch their data usage even more closely and those huge overages would dry up.
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Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: Funny!

said by n2jtx:

First, water and electricity are a tangible physical product. If I consume more water or electricity, there is a reduction in a physical commodity be it the water itself or the fuel used to make the electricity. Data is not a physical commodity.

Mobile data is limited whether you want to believe that or not. I'm not to spend time educating you how mobile data works( I will if you want me to explain it ) but bandwidth IS in fact limited. Mobile data isn't magic.

Secondly, the way data pricing works, if I go 1MB over my allotment I will get dinged $10-$15 for that MB. If I had to go metered than charge me per KB or MB. If I am charged $.10/MB and I use 5MB in a month, I pay $.50. The telco's would never go for that because people would certainly watch their data usage even more closely and those huge overages would dry up.

because the overages are $10-$15 most people DO NOT go over. Thus no overage fee is collected. If they did it like you want then plenty people people would go over because what is a few cents or an extra dollar or two? Well to the wireless companies it can add up to millions per year. So actually they make LESS in overage fees doing it the way they are now.

delusion ftl

@comcast.net

Re: Funny!

This is a fallacy, mobile data is not inherently limited. The way it is rolled out can present limitations. What I mean to say is this:
If Verizon put a cell site on every corner of every street your "mobile" issue would evaporate. The issue is not necessarily "mobile" nor "spectrum" but density. With Verizon's low tower density they have at the very least double the users per tower than Sprint/Tmo, and most times 4X as many.
If Verizon quadrupled the amount of sites they have deployed, then they could probably go back to unlimited data.

But see this is the same "last mile" issue that plagues every network medium. It is not unique to mobile. What you are doing is you are running cover for Verizon's crappy tower density that works great when running on low frequency spectrum doing talk and text, but struggles to keep up with a data intense network.

What we end up with is a situation like this:
Users are consuming your resource in a way you're not optimally set out to deliver.
You can:
A. Blame the government to get more resources
B. Build out/change your resource to fit the needs of your customers
C. Blame your customers for being a thorn in your side, demonize some of them for excessive use of your resource in a way you weren't prepared for, and charge everyone more to keep them from putting a strain on your resource.

Verizon is primarly doing C. You totally agree with them on this as this is how you would handle it.
sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

Re: Funny!

Verzion's tower density won't be an issue with them adding LTE users to AWS spectrum. These caps are ridiculously low just because they can. It has nothing to do with the network limitations.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: Funny!

said by sonicmerlin:

Verzion's tower density won't be an issue with them adding LTE users to AWS spectrum. These caps are ridiculously low just because they can. It has nothing to do with the network limitations.

That helps but doesn't solve the issue. You're not taking not account growth. Only 44% of devices are 4G but 69% of all the data is 4G. And both numbers are growing. Now what if that number was 100% 4G devices? Not to mention the amount of data per user is also increasing. Also you're not taking into account Verizon is rolling out VoLTE which will use even more of the 4G network

AWS basically triples the spectrum. However a device that doesn't have AWS capability doesn't see a benefit. Which is the VAST majority of phones. It will take time for a significant amount of phones have this capability. Heck 30% of Verizion's phone are still basic flip style. Another quarter are 3G smartphones.

Not to mention AWS is only in a few areas. It took them nearly 3 years to rollout 700 MHz LTE. They've only been rolling out AWS for maybe 6-8 months.

People want to believe in cabals and conspiracy theories and companies run by "Dr Evil" because it's easier to accept that and play the "I'm the victim of the evil corporatists" than to recognize that there are real life limitations and sometimes changes take awhile.

But since you're the expert on caps I'm curious as to what the caps SHOULD be and exactly how you came to that conclusion. And I'd like those figures backed up by facts. Because I base things on facts not conjecture. I hope you're not a member of the "I pull numbers out of my ass" club.

Mr Guy

@charter.com
said by delusion ftl :

This is a fallacy, mobile data is not inherently limited. The way it is rolled out can present limitations. What I mean to say is this:
If Verizon put a cell site on every corner of every street your "mobile" issue would evaporate. The issue is not necessarily "mobile" nor "spectrum" but density. With Verizon's low tower density they have at the very least double the users per tower than Sprint/Tmo, and most times 4X as many.
If Verizon quadrupled the amount of sites they have deployed, then they could probably go back to unlimited data.

A) Cell towers cost money. So basically you want Verizon to lower prices( which reduced revenue ) and somehow spend more on towers?

B) You can Google hundreds of stories about mobile companies being denied permits to put up new towers because local zoning authorities don't like how "ugly" they make the area look. I'm not sure why people think a mobile company can just erect a tower anywhere they want.

C) While Verizon is also working on mini-tower solutions this rollout will take TIME. It might take a couple of years to finish that. And they may be smaller they are not invisible and also suffer from the same NIMBY issues.

delusion ftl

@comcast.net

Re: Funny!

Verizon could deploy twice the current infrastructure by simply piggy backing on already deployed towers Tmo and Sprint use for their density. Sure, some of them are full, but there are thousands that they could. And they saw all this coming.

Look how your tune has changed with your admittance to mini-cell/DAS solutions. All of the sudden the "mobile cannot support unlimited" has practically evaporated. Although the boogeyman keeping Verizon down is now NIMBY rather than mobile not being able to support heavy data throughput.

I know you love Verizon on a personal level, but I think it's important for regular non fanboys to understand that VZW and ATT's Achilles heel in metro areas, requiring them to be stingy with their data, is their poor tower density NOT "mobile cannot support unlimited" or their users being hogs.

DcGamer05

join:2001-07-05
Danbury, CT
Wow Verizon must love you, making excuses for them right out of their own PR (BS) book! Firstly Verizon is not out of bandwidth and the whining they do is typical of a company that doesn't want their cash cow to go away. Texting was big a few years ago and they charged ridiculous amounts and had all sorts of "texting" plans and family plans centered around messaging and in those days they complained of texting overloading their network and they had to charge more in order to deal with the traffic but all it amounted to was the carriers using the extra revenue to build out their 3G networks.

The same thing is going on now with data they are using all the extra money they are making from data services to build out their data networks but once its built out and speeds are acceptable data will become unlimited again like messaging is now.

Its all a matter of time and they are trying to milk the cow for all its worth but eventually it will be back to unlimited but they have a big PR machine that likes to spread hysteria about no capacity and data hoggers! When all it amounts to is the carrier wanting to hoard the money instead of giving the customer what they want.

Mr Guy

@charter.com
said by n2jtx:

“Verizon Wireless led the way with the introduction of shared data plans...” the company insists.
Gee, that is something I would not be proud of. My sister and brother-in-law are on a shared plan and my sister leaves her iPhone 4S 3G turned off all the time because they were getting socked with overages. She lets my BIL use the shared data exclusively and deal with the overage charges himself. Sad when a company forces family members to be antagonistic.

it's called wi-fi. Which is faster than 3G by the way. Just because you phone CAN use mobile data doesn't mean it HAS too. That like saying because your PC comes with an Ethernet port then you should only use that and never use wi-fi. Also if they are getting socket with overages they can always get more data. It's cheaper than overages.

By the way we are in our 6th month of being on Share Everything and we are paying $17 a month less than what we would have been paying had we stayed on on the old Nationwide plans.

amarryat
Verizon FiOS

join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA

Re: Funny!

said by Mr Guy :

Just because you phone CAN use mobile data doesn't mean it HAS too.

If you want to send picture messages, that won't go through your wifi. They will use your data allotment.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: Funny!

said by amarryat:

said by Mr Guy :

Just because you phone CAN use mobile data doesn't mean it HAS too.

If you want to send picture messages, that won't go through your wifi. They will use your data allotment.

They do not count against your cap. Explain how people with non smartphones and no data plans can send me picture and even video messages without incurring data charges if they count against your data allotment?

amarryat
Verizon FiOS

join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA

Re: Funny!

That's good, I guess they changed that. I thought it used to count.

djrobx
Premium
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
kudos:2

Sad when a company forces family members to be antagonistic.

Man, this is begs to be a modern-day "Webhog!" ad.

AnonMe

@comcastbusiness.net

Headed in the right direction

As much as I think VZW has been raping us for a long time, this industry is finally headed in the right direction.

Last month I changed my 500 MB share plan to the 250 MB share plan to save some money. This month I changed to the single line 250 MB plan for $45/month.

I use a lot of data, but almost always connected to wifi. Finally starting to feel OK about my cell phone bill!
amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America

Re: Headed in the right direction

It looks like that plan is now $55, according to the new pricing. I was considering it, but not anymore!

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: Headed in the right direction

said by amungus:

It looks like that plan is now $55, according to the new pricing. I was considering it, but not anymore!

They still have it on a special for $45 amonth

»www.verizonwireless.com/wcms/con···ans.html

IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman

join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1

1 recommendation

The T-Mobile effect...

T-Mobile is definitely putting the squeeze on Verizon.

Verizon must not like how its churn number is looking.

We'll find out soon enough.

••••••

amarryat
Verizon FiOS

join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA

Many plans won't change because of this

For example, 2 lines with 4GB of shared data. Is still $40 + $40 + $70 = $150.

However those may be able to get by with 3GB of shared data and save $10/month, where before that savings would have resulted in 2GB of shared data.

••••
wkm001

join:2009-12-14

Garbage!!!

I think the new plans are garbage! Mostly because they don't benefit me. Two lines sharing 4GB of data.

As an out of contract customer I asked for Edge pricing ($20 per smart phone on the 10GB+) and Verizon had zero interest in it. If signing up for Edge you have to make at least 3 monthly installments before you can pay the phone off.

It would have been nice to get 6GB more data for $10 less. Guess I need to be an AT&T customer for that.

•••

Dr Myopic

@cstel.com

Investors, run for the hills!

Price pressure across the wireless market? Best pull our capital out now to show these managerial types we are not pleased... not one bit.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: Investors, run for the hills!

I wonder how many people here unknowingly have wireless carrier stock in their 401k or IRAs?

Cloud25GB

@qwest.net

25 GB of Cloud

Th 25 GB of cloud storage is nice too. With Apple iCloud ... you only get 5 GB. If you want more, you have to pay.

The international texting is nice too.

I gave T-Mobile an honest 4 months last year. Unfortunately I live in a rural area ... from a coverage perspective ... Verizon is the bomb ... with LTE ... EVERY WHERE. I would love to pay T-Mobile rates ... but I also need to use my phone

Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

Still switching when the time comes....

Bill is to much...
amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America

does nothing for me

I'm on an older style single line plan - 450 min, 1000 texts, 2GB data.
With this newer plan, it looks like the equivalent plan is for half the data at 1GB/mo. No thanks.

Probably works out better for 4+ lines.

•••

MalibuMaxx
Premium
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN

Awesome...

I'm switching to T-MO next month... to bad for VZW...

30 a month vs 50 a month for my hotspot... LMAO lower your prices VZW... or you will be making 0 from me...

Cloud25GB

@qwest.net

Sucks for BYOD or Paid in Full

I was reading that you do NOT get the reduced rates for BYOD or if you pay or device in full.

You HAVE to be on the EDGE program to get the reduced rates.

I can kind of get the BYOD.

But with paying the device off in full??? Verizon still gets all of their money ... the full retail price of the phone and hence any profit from the sale of the phone.

It makes no sense to me why one has to be on the EDGE program versus paying your device off in full.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: Sucks for BYOD or Paid in Full

If you're on the Edge program you can pay your phone off anytime you want. There is no difference between Edge pricing and just buying the phone outright. So just get on Edge then pay the phone off and enjoy the $10 or $20 off. Your statement does though apply to those that BYOD.

Anon1876

@comcast.net

Steal of a deal lol

So you pay $40 a month for 500MB of bandwidth, now 1GB, which is still a joke. Mediocre Internet on a mobile devices that seem to chew through that with updates alone. Oh and you can't turn it off without disabling everything but calling on the phone since they've now rolled Internet and SMS/MMS into one.

Awesome. It's no wonder I pay as much as Comcast's entire Triple Play package per month on the lowest tier of any wireless providers service.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Great for those on basic phones

Those accounts that were on the old nationwide plans for 4 or less basic phones will save. Also those on a Nationwide smartphone single line plan that were on a 2 GB data plan. Perhaps this is Verizon's way to get them to switch. For people that use more than 3 GB these new plans do nothing. Which is an odd way to respond to at&t's new 10 GB data plans.
axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

Competition at work

Good to see things are improving

Mike
Premium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1

If anything

Saves me $10 a month while I downgrade my plan.

Thank you T Mobile

••••

miataman

join:2010-10-27
Chelmsford, MA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

Current users..

Am I correct in assuming this is to the benefit of current users, and not just new orders?
My Plan is 700mins, 2 gigs data, 4 phones, 2 of them using data. Fully unlimited text.
--
New England Tel. " Iron Men and Iron Wire"

Mr Guy

@charter.com

1 recommendation

Re: Current users..

Yes all customers. Are you saying your 2 smartphones use 2 GB each? If so then you won't save anything over the old Share Everything plans. Unless you think you could get by on less than 3 GB then yes you can save over the old Share Everything plans.

More Everything with 2 basic phones 2 smartphones 4 GB data( with unlimited minutes and unlimited texting ) would be $210 a month not counting taxes and fees( probably around $20-$25 ) and not taking into account any discount you may be entitled to.

miataman

join:2010-10-27
Chelmsford, MA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

Re: Current users..

Ok, THe 2 smartphones have individual data plans, 1 with 4G, and 1 with 2G. The 4G was from a "doubledata" promo from a few yrs ago. So am I right to think that the 2G will go to 3, and the 4G will stay the same, or does this only apply to those on "share data" plans? Thanks for your response(s)..
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New England Tel. " Iron Men and Iron Wire"
sonofsmog

join:2003-09-09
Ontario, CA

No Difference if your on the share everything plan already

I don't see that there would be any discounts for most.

For example I am already on the Share Everything plan with 3 smart phones and one regular phone + 4 Gigs of data. I don't get any additional data nor any additional discounts.

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: No Difference if your on the share everything plan already

There is a difference if you use 3 GB or less. Or you have 4 or less basic lines only on a Share Everything plan.

Kramer
Premium,Mod
join:2000-08-03
Richmond, VA
kudos:2

Better, but still expensive

I just crunched the numbers with our family plan in mind. 4 smartphones with varying data plans, 2-2GB, 1-6GB, and 1-unlimited. 1 phone is now on Edge. We could switch to this (10GB shared) and break even. More minutes but less data. The news here is really for Shared plans and Edge. Edge starts to make sense if you purchase 10GB or more of shared data. 20 bucks a month/phone is very close to the cost of a new phone. The difference of $5-10 a month instead of pre-paying $200 or more is attractive. I think anyone on a shared plan not currently using Edge should consider it if they buy that much data.

The $10/month discount/phone on plans less than 10GB is a bit stingy. Say an iPhone is subsidized by $400 when you pay $200 for it with a 2 year contract. They are only giving you back $240 of that subsidy. For that lost $160 you are getting the ability to get a new phone every year and getting a linear reduction in the cost to leave Verizon should you so chose. None of that bull where they reduce the ETF by less than the percentage of paid months. There is no contract other than your promise to pay $600/24 over at least 12 months. The part I am not sure of is whether or not Verizon lets you hand in the phone after 12 months and say goodbye. I assume that is the case because on my bill, the amount you owe up to that 12 months is called a "buyout". With Verizon, you are never sure of anything and neither are their reps. I just got off the phone with a rep and she had no idea of what "More Everything" is.

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Pk

@172.56.3.x

What's gonna happen when..

Screens become even higher resolution and a single web surfing session puts a huge dent in ones cap. As well as voice over LTE, I'm sure if someone talks a lot and it will be HD audio, that can chew up a 250-500 MB data bucket. Wonder how these things will be addressed

Mr Guy

@charter.com

Re: What's gonna happen when..

I'm petty sure VoLTE will be exempt form caps just like calling is today. You do realize that mobile phone calls TODAY are all data? They aren't charging for that. Also VoLTE has along way to go before it becomes standard. Heck Verizon has ZERO phones currently capable of VoLTE. It will take YEARS to get that number up to even 50%.