Comments on news posted 2014-02-24 08:51:25: Back in 2008 Verizon negotiated a closed-door agreement with then NYC mayor Mike Bloomberg, one Verizon strongly suggested would result in Verizon offering FiOS to 100% of the city by 2014 -- sort of. ..
As long as TWC and Cablevision are required to provide discounted broadband, the Mayor can push for more affordable broadband. Otherwise, that would not be fair. Thankfully for Verizon, there are no telephone poles in Manhattan, and cant be used for leverage !
your honor, you mentioned the lack of affordable high speed internet and frustration with verizon. I'd like you to consider broadening your concern to cabletv content delivery, as higher speeds are mostly used by video streaming. it may be impractical during your term in office to increase affordable last mile wired/fiber distribution to the home, so you may want to use the legislature to benefit consumers in a wireless way by; 1. mandating roof access for multi dwelling units to access satellite dish providers - this will provoke building owners to install a dish that shares content to multiple units, or allow individual unit dishes - finally giving cabletv monopolies some real competition. 2. incentivising more wifi and paid cellular distribution with the promise of higher caps, so more can use their wireless devices in more places at higher speeds - thus they will be less dependent on one higher speed wired solution at home, work or school.
Karl has great hope for newly elected Democrats. I recall some of his early Obama FCC love. Heck, early on, I had great hope for Obama also, based on his candidacy rhetoric. Lets hope the new Mayor of NYC doesn't disappoint as badly. He's off to a poor start with not closing NYC public schools during a bad snow storm, and not keeping streets clear of snow and ice. Maybe he's more of a utility regulator type? -- Congress could mess up a one piece jigsaw puzzle.
fios has not penetrated further in queens because areas are so saturated with twcable that verizon can't get the 50% signup quota they need to justify building in the first place. both fios and rcn have laid fiber right past our building, but they both know it's hopeless to sell to our coop residents, not get into the building in the first place.
I'm now paying $30/mo for 15/1 uncongested docsis3 service - neither rcn nor fios can beat that, so as a resident, i have no incentive to demand my building get either of them at all. so the real competition is over cabletv content - which i get with roku/hulu/netflix instead of paying for cabletv. if i could get satellite i might be using them instead of doing all this video streaming.
Please cite this 50% "signup quota" because they have to wire everyone in NYC unless the building owners disallow it. All areas in NYC are "so saturated" by TWC or Cablevision, so your comment is a bit strange.
italian, you are misinformed. verizon uses the landlord/owner right of way excuse to get out of building out - but it's often a total fabrication.
i discuss this issue regularly with both my coop board member and our management company, and we have requested both rcn and verizon wire up the building on several occasions over the past 4 years, and neither company is interested. it's no longer an issue of sharing hallway cable distribution trays, since fios now uses 90° bend capable fiber tape which can be applied and painted over. there is an rcn and a fios building just a few blocks away, and the only thing they both have in common is higher than twcable penetration.
Listen man, Verizon has a franchise agreement, and a stipulation for them to wire your building is NOT a 50% "signup quota". You cant have penetration until you GET IN THERE. There is no signups before-hand. What youre saying doesnt make any sense.
any franchise agreement implies a profit incentive. if you can't get enough customers for any franchise district - you don't build. would you prefer we nationalized verizon and forced them to build up? i didn't think so. the best we can do is beat them over the head with lawyers - short of that, if there is no profit in building out, they won't.
think of it another way... had bloomberg not giving verizon a sweet deal 6 years ago, there would probably be half as many fios area as we enjoy here now and twcable would have had less incentive to upgrade existing distribution, since verizon's current profit center in NYC is wireless NOT fios. the only downside of the fios initiative in NYC is that verizon had an excuse not to bother doing ADSL2+ with all their copper pair wiring plant, thus ADSL service in this city is as pathetic as it was 6 years ago.
Not a single thing youre saying makes sense. If your building management wants FiOS, get a letter stating so. Otherwise, youre being lied to. Once you get that letter send a copy to Verizon, and the city. SIMPLE.
There are no pre-build signups to justify the construction, this isnt Google Fiber.
again - you are misinformed. if i could get half my neighbors to sign an agreement to try fios for a year and allow right of way access to their apartments (remember, coop common areas are shareholder controlled), we'd have verizon techs in here taping up our hallway within a month. we discussed this at an annual coop meeting and not enough attending members were interested in pursuing it.
sorry italian, i'm done discussing this with someone so out of touch with realities on the ground.
this is what happens when online people depend on wikipedia linkables instead of the real world. what may be legally required and what is unofficially expected can be two very different things. anyone who works in sales will tell you - don't bother pitching to people who are not ready to buy.
i never used the word "quota" - yet penetration% potential is how verizon decides where to build or not. why do you suppose verizon does not build in areas already well served by twcable - because landlords are standing at the front door with a shotgun yelling "get off my lawn"? please... get real already.
You obviously have been sold a bill of goods by the cable industry. Every building that Vz goes in to has already been covered 100% by cable. My building in Mt Vernon has 300 units. At least 280 were served by TW. No pre-installation survey was done. Vz negotiated with the building management then came in and wired it. You are the only poster I have seen that has mentioned it. I would love to see the source of this.
Thank your lucky stars you have twcable when much of the country has only a choice between satellite and capped 3G/4G and some don't even have the latter option. -- Unicorns! Show ponies! Where's the beef?!