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gigahurtz
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2014-Mar-10 12:33 pm
Thank you, T-Mobile.I am glad that T-Mobile has chosen this route. I love seeing AT&T/Verizon claim they aren't concerned yet suddenly make adjustments to their ridiculous plans that they haven't changed in years (except to raise prices). Great work T-Mobile! | |
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Mr Guy
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2014-Mar-10 12:38 pm
Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.Thanks for what? Not bothering to offer service within 40 miles?
Also what you failed to miss is that their $70 unlimited data plan is now $80. I call that a price INCREASE | |
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| | mech1164I'll Be Back join:2001-11-19 Lodi, NJ |
Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.True it is a price increase, but one with a beneficial incentive also. VZW or ATT would just do the increase and drop data amounts and tell you you will love it. As it is the boost on the 70.00 plan is an opt in deal. For now I'll stay where I am. | |
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to Mr Guy
How much does Verizon and AT&T charge for unlimited everything?
"Can you hear me now............... Good!" | |
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Mr Guy
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2014-Mar-10 1:07 pm
Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.unlimited data is unsustainable and when T-Mobile actually gets customers they will find that out sooner than later.
Oh and T-Mobile's unlimited "everything" doesn't included unlimited tethering. So I hardly call that unlimited EVERYTHING. Seems T-Mobile uses the same dictionary as Straight Talk.
Seriously I wish Verizon would bring back unlimited data because it would take less than week for all those whiners figure why you can't have it. Then they'll be bitching about there slow ass connection if they can connect at all.
Oh and on Verizon and At&t yes they can hear me because there is actual service. T-Mobile? Hmm yes driving 40 miles to use my "unlimited data" sounds like fun. NOT. Have fun trying to use that unlimited data in the 90% of the land mass of the lower 48 that doesn't have a lick of T-Mobile service. | |
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Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.T-Mobile has many customers already. I can experience congestion depending on which tower I use and time of day.
And again... Does Verizon and AT&T offer unlimited tethering? Or what is it that they offer......... What are they called........ Data buckets?
As for coverage...... Well..... The urban customer like myself appreciates their very ample coverage, with exception of marginal indoor reception, and again that depends where you are.
90% of land mass lacks T-Mobile coverage? WOW!! It's no wonder they're only fourth biggest US telecom carrier.. Who woulda thunk it!!!!! | |
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Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.I have unlimited LTE tethering for $30 on my VZ Iphone 5s. I also have $30 unlimited data and the 34.95 voice plan. | |
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Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.Retail data plan? Not some grandfathered, corporate or family share discounted plan?
We would need to compare apples to apples. | |
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said by tired_runner:T-Mobile has many customers already. I can experience congestion depending on which tower I use and time of day.
And again... Does Verizon and AT&T offer unlimited tethering? Or what is it that they offer......... What are they called........ Data buckets?
As for coverage...... Well..... The urban customer like myself appreciates their very ample coverage, with exception of marginal indoor reception, and again that depends where you are.
90% of land mass lacks T-Mobile coverage? WOW!! It's no wonder they're only fourth biggest US telecom carrier.. Who woulda thunk it!!!!! T Mobile's new shiny LTE network is already slowing down due to the mass influx of new subscribers. Spectrum is a finite resource for the carriers and LTE networks will continue to get slower and slower until "5G" gets here. Also, believe it or not Sprint is the only one with the available spectrum to assure the network will be able to handle the rapidly increasing data load. | |
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Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.Please source your claim of "T Mobile's new shiny LTE network is already slowing down due to the mass influx of new subscribers" | |
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to Gilitar
source?
I just tested 15.69Mbps/1.21Mbps on T-Mobile HSPA+ in South Florida | |
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fuziwuzi
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2014-Mar-11 5:50 pm
Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.I just got 19.40Mbps/7.87Mbps w/32ms ping here in the heavy-traffic Buckhead area of Atlanta. Yeah, it sucks when T-Mobile's LTE network gets so bogged down. :P | |
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to Mr Guy
My goodness, you sound very angry. Did your hours get cut at Verizon? Obviously, T-Mobile's coverage is no where near AT&T or Verizon, but it's important to note that competition is healthy for the entire wireless industry. Do you really want AT&T and Verizon to just mozy along without any concern of another company? Of course, since you likely work for one of them I would imagine you do. | |
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cybah
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2014-Mar-10 2:35 pm
Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.HA! I was just thinkin that myself. He must work for them.
I'm a disgruntled Tmo customer and I wouldn't even go on that hate speech rant about them. Make a point, fine. But just to be a general a-hole, no. | |
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to gigahurtz
said by gigahurtz:My goodness, you sound very angry. Did your hours get cut at Verizon? i believe this is just BF69 in anon form. we have a few people who have chosen to be anon and troll the news section. q. | |
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to Mr Guy
said by Mr Guy :unlimited data is unsustainable and when T-Mobile actually gets customers they will find that out sooner than later. Only Verizon/AT&T shills come out and say this. | |
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to Mr Guy
said by Mr Guy :unlimited data is unsustainable and when T-Mobile actually gets customers they will find that out sooner than later But their network has the same capacity as Verizon's "monster" that is being developed. Since T-Mobile has a fraction of the customers, they should do very well for a while. | |
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to Mr Guy
they have around 1 million customers on the unlimited data plan. you are suggesting T-Mobile doesn't know the basic costs associated with their offerings.
My in laws live on a farm near a small-ish town and have never been able to use AT&T wireless inside their house they have to go out in the yard. Verizon is only marginally better but the voice quality is bad. And LTE was worse, available only outdoors.
Ive gone cross country several times and used T-mobile in Kansas, Wyoming and Idaho for hours talking to people. | |
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said by Mr Guy :Also what you failed to miss is that their $70 unlimited data plan is now $80. I call that a price INCREASE Not really. I have the current unlimited add-on. When I log into my account, I can add additional tethering data at $10 per 2 gigs (ie: unlimited phone data + 4.5GB tethering for $30, etc.) In short, there has always been a price differential of $10 over their limited data plans to have unlimited phone data. T-Mobile has simply dropped the ability to get unlimited on their lowest paid tier (2.5 GB -- soon to be 3GB). Today's $30 unlimited add-on (unl+4.5GB) is being bumped to 5GB with no price change. | |
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to Mr Guy
Well, given I'm not running a datacenter on my phone, and the fact that I'll still have unlimited (throttled) connectivity after that first 1gb, I'm more than happy with the changes. If I feel the need to watch netflix or something bandwidth intensive on my phone, I'd be doing on Wifi anyway. | |
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thxultra to Mr Guy
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2014-Mar-10 1:08 pm
to Mr Guy
Actually there is a 2.5 gig increase in tethering and added international text and if you are a current customer with unlimited you can keep the old plan at the old price so no price increase after all. I have no need for international text or more data for tethering so I will simply keep my old plan which is fair. | |
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Re: Thank you, T-Mobile.The new international text (inclusive of all but three countries) will be added to all Simple Choice customers, regardless of your soon-to-be "grandfathered" unl+2.5GB data add-on.
In fact, I suspect the unl+2.5GB data will really become one of those "secret" retention add-ons that you'll be able to call and beg for. | |
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Whoa, you sound mad. I thank T-Mobile because they've forced AT&T and Verizon to adjust their plans. T-Mobile is clearly making an impact on their subscribers. I am actually an ATT customer but I love competition and I'm glad T-Mobile is there to push ATT to do better. It's a price increase, but you do realize the services have DOUBLED, right? | |
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said by Mr Guy :Thanks for what? Not bothering to offer service within 40 miles? This gets old. said by Mr Guy :Also what you failed to miss is that their $70 unlimited data plan is now $80. I call that a price INCREASE My wife and I each just got our 4G data allotments doubled, with no price increase. Here's what TMO has done for us since we signed-up: Given us a discount on their already-nicely-priced plan. Given us international data roaming and discounted voice and text roaming, at no additional charge. Made available, for a modest additional fee, free and discounted international calling and texting. And, now: Doubled our high-speed data allotment. Oh yeah: And annoyed the livin' daylights out of VZW, "at&t" and Sprint Yay TMO! \o/ Jim | |
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No rate increases for existing customers; they're grandfathered in even without having a contract, apparently. | |
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to Mr Guy
fud
I have T-Mobile service going trough alligator alley | |
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With taxes and fees?Does anyone have this plan in Texas? (Dallas/Austin/San Antonio) What are the taxes and fees percentage-wise? So I can figure out the "final" price | |
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morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 |
morbo
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2014-Mar-10 12:54 pm
ThanksOn T-Mobile here, and happy to see the default data included going up to 1gb. | |
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shmerl
Member
2014-Mar-10 12:58 pm
Not good reallySo far it looks like they dropped unlimited from the $70 plan, i.e. introduced caps. They don't need to price the unlimited LTE at the highest price. There is no need to cap data at all really. They can set a flat price for unlimited 3G/LTE and set it lower than their current highest plan price. So all those graded plans with higher price for less caps are really a rip off. T-Mobile is making a step back.
Yes, T-Mobile is better than others, but until they'll offer a truly unlimited plan for normal price, they aren't really fair yet. | |
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Mr Guy
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2014-Mar-10 1:09 pm
Re: Not good reallysaid by shmerl: There is no need to cap data at all really. No offense but you really need to study up on how cell data works. | |
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shmerl
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2014-Mar-10 1:17 pm
Re: Not good reallyIt works like any other network. Simultaneous load can be an issue, not the total amount of data you can use a month. Capping any plan for data is like limiting the distance you can travel on some road. It does not help unloading the traffic if the road doesn't have enough lanes. It's just a dumb marketing rip off scheme. I.e. I don't believe that data caps are used to prevent network congestion, it's a bogus excuse. | |
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clone (banned)
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2014-Mar-10 2:17 pm
Re: Not good reallyExactly. This applies to any network, wired, wireless, whatever. You must design for peak load. "Data hogs" who are using data all day long don't contribute much to the peak traffic.
And the old "spectrum is finite" line is getting a little tired. Not only are all 4 carriers hoarding tons of spectrum, they can always "split the node" by adding more sites in areas where there is heavy traffic. Since they want to be cheap and not monetize the spectrum they hoard, nor do they want to expend capital on upgrading with new cell sites, they choose to implement caps.
And, being the good sheep most people are, they bend over and accept it. There is no reason networks should be congested, period. Yet ever time a carrier wants to whine or moan about FCC regulations or the "spectrum crisis", they just let it clog up and they get their way. | |
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Re: Not good reallyTo be fair at least in t-mobile's case their ARPU is around $50 (per customer), which is literally 1/3 Verizon's. but yes these caps are pretty much artificial nonsense. Even satellite Internet providers providers unlimited data for a 6 or 8 hour period at night. The carriers could easily offer uncapped service during off-peak hours, much the same way they used to offer unlimited voice after 8 pm and on weekends. | |
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to Mr Guy
said by Mr Guy :said by shmerl: There is no need to cap data at all really. No offense but you really need to study up on how cell data works. You just continue to beat the drum this drum, but have no facts to back it up. | |
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uhh more expensive.I currently have unlimited everything through sprint for 70$. I was thinking of switching, but I'm not going to pay more, especially when sprint will subsidize my phone. | |
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robbyglack
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2014-Mar-10 1:06 pm
price increase for mosti work at a cell phone store. most people use between 1gb and 2 gb. those that use more usually use way way more(over 5GB) basically hard core streaming video users or those who find ways around tethering restrictions. in fact 90% of the people looking for unlimited at my store are plan to use workaround for unlimited tethering.
very few people will save with this plan. people on the $50 and $60 options will have a little extra data they never use. those paying $70 now will have to go to the $80. this is basically a $10 bump up on the unlimited pricing disguised as a discount for everyone else. | |
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n2jtx
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2014-Mar-10 3:41 pm
Re: price increase for mostsaid by robbyglack :very few people will save with this plan. people on the $50 and $60 options will have a little extra data they never use. those paying $70 now will have to go to the $80. this is basically a $10 bump up on the unlimited pricing disguised as a discount for everyone else. That is what I was thinking. I had a quote for switching my company from Sprint and the unlimited was a $20 add-on. Now it is a $30 add-on so the quote I have is no longer valid. Regardless, my management wants to stick it out with Sprint so unless I opt to drop out of my company plan, I'll be stuck on Sprint too. | |
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said by robbyglack :i work at a cell phone store. most people use between 1gb and 2 gb. those that use more usually use way way more(over 5GB) basically hard core streaming video users or those who find ways around tethering restrictions. in fact 90% of the people looking for unlimited at my store are plan to use workaround for unlimited tethering.
very few people will save with this plan. people on the $50 and $60 options will have a little extra data they never use. those paying $70 now will have to go to the $80. this is basically a $10 bump up on the unlimited pricing disguised as a discount for everyone else. Just a heads up.... as of TOMORROW (March 24th), only new activations that want unlimited will be paying $80. It was well advertised that all the current $70 customers (and any customers that signed up for the unlimited $70 plan) would be grandfathered in on that plan. They would NOT be switched over to the $80 plan unless they asked to be. The only difference between the two plans is that the $80 gives you more tethering. I know a LOT of people (probably 30-35... no lie) that signed up for the $70 unlimited plan before the 23rd to be grandfathered in. | |
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Works for meI have the $50/month plan + a 15% perpetual discount, so after taxes, fees, and so on I'm paying $46.61 in total per month. I always use data over WiFi (where can't you find WiFi these days?) and so I've never gone over my 500 MB limit. The fact that it's now bumped up to 1 GB is awesome.
Considering what I'm paying, and the fact that I just outright purchased a Nexus 4 to avoid all the carrier contracts and locked in fees, I've saved a ton of money. My mother, for example, is on ATT and even with a 20% discount she's paying over twice what I pay per month for pretty much the same features. She gets a little bit more data, but it's not like she uses it anyway.
So really, TMobile all the way. The only thing better than this is perhaps pre-paid so you don't have monthly fees at all. | |
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jreffner Premium Member join:2003-04-16 West Chester, OH |
jreffner
Premium Member
2014-Mar-10 1:11 pm
Contract QuestionIf I'm still stuck under an AT&T contract, then there is no getting out other than paying the early termination fee is there?
Also, If I did pay the early termination fee, would AT&T immediately unlock my current iPhone? | |
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TMO Simple choiceTMO still needs to keep an add-on line as a voice only plan. I have many friends that are adding older parents to accounts, and these seniors want voice only. They don't need or want data. But the family of the seniors wants to be in charge of the bill. | |
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vukota
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2014-Mar-10 5:26 pm
Re: TMO Simple choiceIf they are older and just need voice, they can always use T-Mobile's MVNO like lycamobile and pay dirt cheap for infrequent use of voice (that is what I give to my younger kids so I can control their spending and they usually spend less than few bucks a month). On the other hand, additional line on the simple choice plan is only additional $10+tax-discounts. | |
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Sorry I'm late to the party. Wife and I are on the T-Mobile Simple Choice Family Plan. We're both on lines 1 & 2. After that, you can add up to three more at only $10 each. Both our elderly mom's are on our lines 3 & 4. One wants talk only (no data or text), while the other wants talk and text (no data). I easily control what is delivered to their phones under my sign-in page online. Couldn't be easier for either of them. I get the bill, they get unlimited whatever they wish, and my 15% discount travels over to their lines as well. | |
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tkdslr
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2014-Mar-10 5:45 pm
With tethering, you don't need to pay fees for those extra devices.To heck with these all these extra $$ share plans(AT&T, Verizon, Sprint). Have a smart phone with built in wifi, it works both ways?
Skip the extra cost of purchasing tablets with built in LTE/4G, instead just tether your wifi only tablet to your 4G phone instead. How often does one really go anywhere without your smart phone? So why pay all that extra cost for redundant functionally(LTE/4G)+extra monthly cost?
Last xmas, I picked up a nice wifi only 7" HD ASUS MEMO for $119, and use my T-mobile phone for data access whenever I need access in a non-public wifi location.
So stop getting ripped off, and get smart about your purchases. | |
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sharksfan3 Premium Member join:2004-02-16 North Hollywood, CA |
Tablet PricingT-Mobile needs better tablet service pricing. | |
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Re: Tablet PricingWith or without phone service? It's pretty competitive either way..
200MB for Free
With Phone service: $10 for 500MB $20 for 2.5GB $30 for 4.5GB
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This is all I'm paying?This is INSANE how little I'm paying with T-Mobile! Just received my bill today. After taxes and discounts, comes to $91.08 for FOUR lines, all with unlimited talk, text and (soon to be) 1GB of high speed data.
That is only $22.82 PER LINE!!!
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