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wizardry
Anon
2014-Mar-17 2:43 pm
A questionAm I correct in interpreting franchise fees as an indirect tax upon the residents of LA? Such that the city can avoid having to directly collect it from residents in yearly levies, and TWC has a quasi-justification for the numerous hidden administrative fees? |
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Tromper Premium Member join:2003-09-08 Seattle, WA |
Tromper
Premium Member
2014-Mar-17 5:44 pm
Yup that's pretty accurate. It's just another tax by another name. Most municipalities sneak those in there, that & sometimes require the companies to do some kind of municipal improvement, unrelated to the cable infrastructure. The money for that shows indirectly in the fees they charge you of course. |
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Would I be correct in stating that your question has an obvious answer to anyone that knows anything about business or economics?
No matter what the cost is be it people, resources, gathering of resources, taxes, penalties, research and development, etc they are ALL cost of delivering goods or services and thus are included in the price people pay. |
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n2jtx join:2001-01-13 Glen Head, NY |
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said by wizardry :Am I correct in interpreting franchise fees as an indirect tax upon the residents of LA? Such that the city can avoid having to directly collect it from residents in yearly levies, and TWC has a quasi-justification for the numerous hidden administrative fees? Yes. Companies do not produce or consume anything themselves. They are legal entities. The humans employed at a company consume things and make product. Likewise, taxes, fees, etc. that a company pays come from people. If the city levies $10 million against TWC, TWC doesn't get a second job and earn more money to pay it. They fold the cost into their bills and the people who slog to work every day pay it. The non-human entity that actually "makes" money is the U.S. Government by printing and coining it. |
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said by Skippy25:Would I be correct in stating that your question has an obvious answer to anyone that knows anything about business or economics?
No matter what the cost is be it people, resources, gathering of resources, taxes, penalties, research and development, etc they are ALL cost of delivering goods or services and thus are included in the price people pay. |
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IowaCowboyLost in the Supermarket Premium Member join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA
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Breach of agreementI think if Time Warner isn't living up to its obligations of the franchising agreement, then Los Angles has every right to revoke the franchising agreement and their authority to operate in the city.
Without the authority to operate in the city, then Time Warner will have no option but to sell the system to another operator who is willing to comply with their franchising agreement. |
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mackey Premium Member join:2007-08-20 |
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Re: A questionsaid by wizardry :Am I correct in interpreting franchise fees as an indirect tax upon the residents of LA? No. Unlike a tax, you don't have to pay this fee. Simply use a provider who does not use city property to deliver their service such as DirecTV or Dish or OTA. /M |
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tshirt Premium Member join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA 1 edit |
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Re: Breach of agreement The city is doing the reasonable next step, since the 2 parties can't agree, send it to court. pulling the franchise would be a extreme final option. Just because the city says TWC is non compliant does not make it so. |
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elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA |
elray
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2014-Mar-17 6:50 pm
Its always campaign season...Egads.
Time Warner is doing a phenomenal job compared to Adelphia, and they tend to offer less costly options than Comcast
This is just the City Attorney grandstanding, as usual.
If the city wants to find an overbuilder to install fiber, that's fine, so long as we don't have to pay a tax for it. |
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Anonymous_Anonymous Premium Member join:2004-06-21 127.0.0.1 |
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Re: A questionsaid by n2jtx:said by wizardry :Am I correct in interpreting franchise fees as an indirect tax upon the residents of LA? Such that the city can avoid having to directly collect it from residents in yearly levies, and TWC has a quasi-justification for the numerous hidden administrative fees? Yes. Companies do not produce or consume anything themselves. They are legal entities. The humans employed at a company consume things and make product. Likewise, taxes, fees, etc. that a company pays come from people. If the city levies $10 million against TWC, TWC doesn't get a second job and earn more money to pay it. They fold the cost into their bills and the people who slog to work every day pay it. The non-human entity that actually "makes" money is the U.S. Government by printing and coining it. bad for comcast if they do in fact take over. since comcast will have to cough up the 10mill plus SportsNet LA channel will have to be sold to someone else since it will be anti competitive to have it (too much exclusive content) |
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Re: Its always campaign season...said by elray:Egads.
Time Warner is doing a phenomenal job compared to Adelphia, and they tend to offer less costly options than Comcast
This is just the City Attorney grandstanding, as usual.
If the city wants to find an overbuilder to install fiber, that's fine, so long as we don't have to pay a tax for it. TWC is doing a shitty job when TWC took over they drop the upload & download speed and downgraded to docsis 1.x took about 5-6 years to get the download and upload speed back to were it was the area still only has 8x1 DOCSIS 3 with outages VERY OFTEN every time it rains and at lest once a week for 8 to 12 hours my grandpas bill went from $25 to $90 for the same channels.. since TWC took that is over 350% increase . they also NEED to pull the 100mbps ad since it's NOT available here. they should be able to override the ads at the local cable plaint that service this area |
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Re: A questionsaid by n2jtx:said by wizardry :Am I correct in interpreting franchise fees as an indirect tax upon the residents of LA? Such that the city can avoid having to directly collect it from residents in yearly levies, and TWC has a quasi-justification for the numerous hidden administrative fees? Yes. Companies do not produce or consume anything themselves. They are legal entities. The humans employed at a company consume things and make product. Likewise, taxes, fees, etc. that a company pays come from people. If the city levies $10 million against TWC, TWC doesn't get a second job and earn more money to pay it. They fold the cost into their bills and the people who slog to work every day pay it. The non-human entity that actually "makes" money is the U.S. Government by printing and coining it. the fee is all ready on the bill .. maybe you need glasses? so people are all ready being billed for it . |
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Caddyroger Premium Member join:2001-06-11 To the west |
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Re: Breach of agreementTWC has one other option. Just turn off the power. |
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