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Comments on news posted 2014-04-24 12:23:52: Verizon's earnings released this morning indicate that the company posted a first-quarter profit of nearly $4 billion, on revenues of $30.8 billion. ..

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why60loss

join:2012-09-20

This is why T-mobile needs to stay.

If Sprint gets to buy T-Mobile now, it will only let AT&T and Verizon go back to jacking rates even higher with no value added.



vat

@204.108.96.x

1 recommendation

What you mean with no value added? They will be value added fees!



DaveDude
No Fear

join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
kudos:1

we are Verizon and we dont need you

Verizon doesnt need customers, they are top guy. Also there ancient cdma tech, and just starting to convert to GSM/LTE. People like verizon because they were told to. I hope Tmoble gets alot larger.



hamburglar_

join:2002-04-29
united state
Reviews:
·ObiVoice

said by DaveDude:

VPeople like verizon because they were told to. I hope Tmoble gets alot larger.

For some, that may be true. After being a Sprint customer for 3+ years, having a service that generally just works is important. They are not perfect, by far, but I have 4 lines and have yet to drop a single call... anywhere. I've seen slower data in spots, but overall no complaints.

IMO, AIO is the sweet spot right now (I know it's ATT). Good coverage and cheap price with no limit on data usage, just throttled after your cap. 2.5GB $45/month, taxes included, is hard to beat including real coverage outside metros.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000
reply to DaveDude

"People like verizon because they were told to."

No one told me to like them. Their stuff works every place I go so that's all I care about. I really don't care what carrier I'm on as ling as it work like I need for it to work.
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I do not, have not, and will not work for AT&T/Comcast/Verizon/Charter or similar sized company.



kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Tampa, FL

Not suprised

I think the growth will get even slower for Verizon. They are pricing themselves out of the market for business customers.

My company will not renew/replace and service with Verizon because of there higher than everybody else pricing. Going through it now. Phone died. Told, she we can replace, but we won't through Verizon.

Phone being ported over this week.
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"There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots"


norm

join:2012-10-18
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to DaveDude

Re: we are Verizon and we dont need you

said by DaveDude:

Verizon doesnt need customers, they are top guy. Also there ancient cdma tech, and just starting to convert to GSM/LTE. People like verizon because they were told to. I hope Tmoble gets alot larger.

Well, my girlfriend and I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile just a few days ago. So far, things are working quite well. A friend of mine on Verizon is planning on switching to T-Mobile within a month or so from Verizon and I have two friends on AT&T that are waiting for their joint contract to be up before they switch to T-Mobile.


SpottedCat

join:2004-06-27
Miami, FL

"our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

That whole idea that their network is superior is rather outdated.

- They are still using an outdated protocol (CDMA2000) for voice and 3G data traffic. The other providers have moved on with their voice ntworks, running HSPA+ across most of their networks.
- You still can't do voice and data at the same time thanks to the outdated protocol. EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE AN LTE CONNECTION!

Maybe their network was the best a few years ago, but AT&T has caught up, and T-Mobile is rapidly catching up. They better start competing on price soon or they're going to lose customers in droves.



amarryat
Verizon FiOS

join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA

They have coverage though. And in addition to that, LTE where no one else does.


ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

1 recommendation

reply to DaveDude

Re: we are Verizon and we dont need you

said by DaveDude:

People like verizon because they were told to.

No, I'm on Verizon because their service works better here than any other carrier. Here's the rundown of the others:

AT&T: Used to be good, but their network has greatly deteriorated here. Dropped calls, network busies, inconsistent data, you name it. We paid the ETF on two lines to get away from them.
Sprint: Oh God, not them. Generally horrible, and, last time I checked, we don't have LTE here.
T-Mobile: OK service, but users have told me that in-building penetration is problematic. Also, not much coverage out of town or off the interstate.
Southern LINC: Great coverage, but they're iDEN, so their phones are awful. One of the last iDEN carriers left, so good luck getting any decent devices. Some newer devices use AT&T to get usable data, since there's no working solution for fast data on iDEN. See above for the problems we had with AT&T's network.

That's it in terms of my choices. Verizon offers 4G just about everywhere around here, even in rural areas, and calls very rarely drop. Expensive? Yes. Overpriced? Possibly. But show me where I have a viable alternative at this point.


IowaCowboy
Iowa native
Premium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA

If I move to Maine

If I move to Maine should I switch to US Cellular or keep Verizon.

I'm thinking of keeping Verizon.
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ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
reply to SpottedCat

Re: "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

In Verizon's defense, most every CDMA carrier is in the same position. Sprint still uses the same voice/3G configuration, as does U.S. Cellular and the smaller CDMA carriers. The only ones that I know of that bailed completely on CDMA were Telus, Bell, and a carrier in Mexico whose name escapes me.

As I understand it, Verizon's plan is to finish deploying LTE and then turn on VoLTE as a gradual replacement for CDMA. That's still a little way off, but you can't expect them to simply abandon CDMA right now and have to replace all those devices out there with GSM models.


amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
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·Cox HSI
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reply to SpottedCat

Re: "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

"...an outdated protocol (CDMA2000) for voice and 3G data traffic."
........that still happens to work quite well in many, many cases.

Say what you will about them, but CDMA is still a great technology, and in America, still has far greater, and far better coverage than GSM.

HSPA(+) exists, yes, but it has nowhere near the footprint that CDMA does.

Personally, I don't care that much about voice + data at the same time. If I'm having a conversation with somebody, chances are good that I'm not going to also be surfing on my phone at the same time. Sure, it'd be handy once in awhile, but in most situations, it's not by any means necessary, or even nice to have.
It does, in fact, work on some devices, as well as when wi-fi is available, so it's not even a big deal to me.


amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
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reply to IowaCowboy

Re: If I move to Maine

Sure, switch to U.S. Cellular if you want zero 4G roaming, customer service that has gone so far downhill that it might as well not exist, and a wonderful new billing system that can't catch up with itself, leaving you with nothing but confused bills, extra fees they can't explain, and did I mention NO 4G roaming, and VERY limited 3G data roaming??


why60loss

join:2012-09-20
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reply to IowaCowboy

said by IowaCowboy:

If I move to Maine should I switch to US Cellular or keep Verizon.

I'm thinking of keeping Verizon.

If you have an unlimited data plan, keep Verizon. other wise think about dumping them for T-Mobile or AT&T. I know at lest in Ohio AT&T works better than Verizon. I think AT&T does a better job than Verizon in the NE market from what I have seen and what other users have said themselves on Verizon's own forum.

As for US cellular, there map is the biggest liar I have ever seen. Do not sign up for them unless you have really tested there network in the area(s) you plan to use it in.


IowaCowboy
Iowa native
Premium
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Springfield, MA
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reply to IowaCowboy

I'll probably stick with Verizon then. It's just I had US Cellular in Iowa and the pricing is reasonable.

I like Verizon the best out of the big four.
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Stop the Comcast-Time Warner merger, I'd rather Time Warner buy out Comcast.



scott2020

join:2008-07-20
MO
reply to amarryat

Re: "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

At my vacation place where my in-laws are full time residents, we have the option of Verizon or nothing. In rural areas, Verizon rules hands down, mainly due to acquisitions of smaller rural carriers who at one point in history actually DID care about serving rural America. And no, we aren't moving thanks.
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itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to amungus

Re: "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

quote:
Say what you will about them, but CDMA is still a great technology, and in America, still has far greater, and far better coverage than GSM.
Doubtful. AT&T is all GSM and they cover roughly the same size as Verizon. CDMA is a decent tech with horrible voice quality (at least on Verizon) and decent reach.

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2

No loss in subs

said by Karl Bode:

in the position of either retaining their "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price" attitude at the cost of more losses, or ramping up their promotions and reducing prices to keep pace with T-Mobile disruption.

Karl, there was no loss. YoY growth in revenue and earning with a decrease in wireless sub adds does not equal a loss. Churn ticked up slightly, but Verizon still has the lowest rate in the industry.

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
reply to DaveDude

Re: we are Verizon and we dont need you

said by DaveDude:

Also there ancient cdma tech, and just starting to convert to GSM/LTE.

So, Verizon leading the upgrade to LTE qualifies as "just starting" in your view?

tooch

join:2007-09-17
Bradley Beach, NJ
reply to SpottedCat

Re: "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

You can do voice and data simultaneously over LTE. I've been on phone calls and used various data-requiring apps. 3G or 1X though, it's not happening.



chlen
Ethically Challenged
Premium
join:2001-01-16
Saratoga, NY

ATT is just cheaper and kind of better

Once I found out that having LTE in my area and still not using anywhere close to 10GB between lines was the case I dropped Sprint.

I have TMO now, which is good LTE in the immediate area, but is 2G the second you are out of town. I pay a total of $146 all in for 3 lines 2 with 3GB and 1 with 5.

However I will be going to ATT since they work everywhere and have great LTE coverage from here to Boston and NYC, ATT will be 145 for 10GB between 3 people and I get 22% union discount.

So ATT for me.

Verizon is just the best. My work phone is VZ. It works in every corner of the state and even in the damn finger lakes I had LTE. ATT is very close.

People pay extra for Verizon because it works. Most dont give a shit about ancient CDMA or capacity of 700mhz LTE, they want to surf and make calls.

ATT and VZ do this best.

Most of my friends are in NYC and Boston, and they can chose sprint and tmo, but you step out of those cities and back to 2G.
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chip89
Premium
join:2012-07-05
Independence, OH

ETF

Verizon paid my ETF fees for all my phone lines!


rebus9

join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Bright House
reply to kfsutops

Re: Not suprised

said by kfsutops:

I think the growth will get even slower for Verizon. They are pricing themselves out of the market for business customers.

My company will not renew/replace and service with Verizon because of there higher than everybody else pricing.

We went through this at $DAYJOB in 2013. Were with VZ for many years, then AT&T came knocking. They (ATT) rolled out the red carpet, gave us a LOT of stuff for free, and absolutely smoked VZ's renewal offer-- literally, saved us about $10k per month.

VZ rep didn't seem to care, didn't even try to retain the account. (This was not a small account, either.) My guess is they only make decent commission on the original sale, and little to nothing if the account renews.

He'll probably call us acting like our new best friend in 2015 when the AT&T contract is due to expire.


DaveDude
No Fear

join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
kudos:1
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·ViaTalk
reply to openbox9

Re: we are Verizon and we dont need you

said by openbox9:

said by DaveDude:

Also there ancient cdma tech, and just starting to convert to GSM/LTE.

So, Verizon leading the upgrade to LTE qualifies as "just starting" in your view?

Yes because HSPA is almost as fast as LTE, and can do data/voice, and it cost less, then verizon.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to chlen

Re: ATT is just cheaper and kind of better

quote:
I have TMO now, which is good LTE in the immediate area, but is 2G the second you are out of town.
If you hang in a little longer they plan to have 50% of 2G up to LTE by the end of this year and finishing up by 2015.

»www.cnet.com/news/t-mobile-to-up···verizon/

Given the speed that they went from 0 to decent LTE most think they will make that target.


MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
kudos:1
reply to itguy05

Re: "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

I agree, i'm much happier with T-mobile voice quality than Verizon.
Verizons was worse than t-mobile and AT&T



MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
kudos:1
reply to tooch

Re: "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

as long as you dont have an iphone then yes



DaveDude
No Fear

join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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Reviews:
·Comcast
·ViaTalk
reply to tooch

Re: "our network is so superior we don't have to seriously compete on price"

said by tooch:

You can do voice and data simultaneously over LTE. I've been on phone calls and used various data-requiring apps. 3G or 1X though, it's not happening.

Unless you are on hspa which can do voice and data over 3g , which is almost as fast as lte.

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
reply to DaveDude

Re: we are Verizon and we dont need you

The point is that VZ isn't just starting to upgrade to LTE. It was one of the first carriers around the world to begin the transition. It doesn't matter where something is coming from, but rather where it is going, IMO.