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2014-May-30 2:04 pm
Re: I am a cord cutterI agree I work 50+ hrs a week and make close to 100k a yr and an cord cutter. I used to pay 200 for direct tv with nfl ticket and other sports packages.
They refuse to acknowledge the fact that people with money are choosing to stop paying for something that used to be entertaining but has been hijacked and no longer designed for entertainment.
If they had half the amount of ads and got rid of the propaganda in sports the entertainment value would return. It is pretty easy to see from bewkes comment that he is an elitest that doesn't understand that people won't accept this socialistic system and pay for it at the same time.
If your going to push ads and politics then give me free service otherwise I am not going to pay to listen to the propaganda. Companies used to have to conform to the interests of consumers. When did companies change to forcing consumers to conform to the interests of the companies? Any free thinking person can see these people are ruining society to push their agenda | |
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Re: I am a cord cutterI'm in a similar boat, the money isn't really the issue, it's the fact that the delivery system is outdated and bloated with hundreds of channels I don't care about.
Since I cut the cord I subscribe to Hulu, Amazon, Netflix and buy the occasional episode or movie off of Amazon or my xbox one. If ESPN were to provide a service, I'd pay for that as well and would no longer miss anything.
I have no issue paying content creators for their work, I just got tired of subsidizing channels I don't care about, being limited to DVRs and paying unending rental fees for old equipment. | |
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2014-Jun-2 9:28 pm
Re: I am a cord cutterI'm a cord-cutter in Canada. I have an OTA antenna, Netflix and that's good enough. I absolutely hated to have to buy 50 channels I didn't want, to get 4 or 5 that were interesting. Now my kids are growing up in a house without cable or satellite TV. They will most likely be cord-nevers when they finally leave home. | |
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said by FreedomThink :I agree I work 50+ hrs a week and make close to 100k a yr and an cord cutter. I used to pay 200 for direct tv with nfl ticket and other sports packages.
They refuse to acknowledge the fact that people with money are choosing to stop paying for something that used to be entertaining but has been hijacked and no longer designed for entertainment.
If they had half the amount of ads and got rid of the propaganda in sports the entertainment value would return. It is pretty easy to see from bewkes comment that he is an elitest that doesn't understand that people won't accept this socialistic system and pay for it at the same time.
If your going to push ads and politics then give me free service otherwise I am not going to pay to listen to the propaganda. Companies used to have to conform to the interests of consumers. When did companies change to forcing consumers to conform to the interests of the companies? Any free thinking person can see these people are ruining society to push their agenda what has ads is the OTA and other channels that come with a package. the pay channels like HBO, SHOWTIME, ENCORE, etc. and the PAY sports channels DON'T have ads. | |
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2014-Jun-1 7:53 pm
Re: I am a cord cutterMost of the 100+ cable channels you pay for have ads, show me where I can get AMC, SyFy, Discovery, MTV etc OTA?
Specifically the movie channels you listed don't, but then they also only have 1-2 shows running at any one time of the year and fill in the rest of their time with old movies everyone has already seen and they have played a thousand times already. They also do so at jacked up prices. | |
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They refuse to acknowledge because even Karl posts that Dish/DirecTV and Telco TV providers are adding customers each quarter. If people were truly cutting the "cord" nobody else would see gains in customers. Karl likes to post one thing one day and then something else the next that says something completely different on the same subject.l | |
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About the same time that the news wings got folded into the advertising wings of the broadcasters, so about a year after Reagan killed the "Fairness Doctrine" so that the companies no longer had to produce news covering both sides of the story and do so even if at a loss as a public service.
The end result is what we have today, where everything is a damn advertisement telling you exactly what and how they want you to think. | |
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2014-May-30 12:45 pm
!What "is" cord cutting?
Is it the process of switching from a cable package over to just VOD from provider x?
If a user was able to access a large library of content and pay for what they want to watch via a cable box provided via the Cable provider does this constitute cord cutting as well?
Is the definition of cord cutting just simply going with an alternative solution vs a cable plan?
It's a very vague definition and I think the real debate here is whether or not we want to pay via al la carte vs channels. I can pay for "just" national geographic.
Whether in the short and long term I save any money is all based on what I am subscribed to. If I want anything and everything available I would most likely end up paying more.
However I think we need to define correctly what cord cutting is. | |
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2014-May-30 1:02 pm
Re: !Cord cutting is cancelling cable tv service and getting any video entertainment from OTA, Internet-based, or disc-based (DVD/Blu-Ray) sources. For example, I have Time Warner Cable. If I cancelled my TWC service and went with DirecTV, it wouldn't be cutting the cord. However, if I cancelled my TWC service and only used OTA, Netflix/Amazon, and my local library's DVD rentals, that would be cord cutting.
Cord nevers are people who never signed up for cable TV in the first place. I don't think this is a huge movement right now, but will only grow since the younger generation doesn't have the same view of video entertainment as the older generation did. Namely, that you watched shows on the days/times when the channel told you watch them and only on a television. Unless cable companies start innovating, they will lose the younger generation to other entertainment sources. | |
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2014-May-30 1:16 pm
Re: !If anything I think Nevers are a shrinking breed because Comcast and the like advertise packages that have basic cable and internet at a lower price, for the first year or so, than just a plain internet. I know I am in this category even though the cable box is in a box in a closet unused. | |
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2014-May-30 1:30 pm
Re: !Good point. People like you might be classified as "invisible cable nevers" because you pay for TV service only because it is more expensive not to and because it would be impossible to count how numerous you are. | |
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Re: !I'm in the "cord-maybe" column where my Fios package is $10 more for 150 channels than simply internet. Outside of broadcast, no more than 5% of family viewing happens on pay tv--the rest the dearth of on demand streaming options..
So for $10 I get 150+ channels and I think that is a good deal. However I'm not so sure that the base price of just internet is fine. So I pay $79 for 2-play inc my cablecard. THATS IT.
The big distinction is that I don't get soaked w/ operator DVR/STB fees which when you read these forums most people say they are paying x amount but guess what if I payed the Verizon bounty for my 6 TVs that would be over $60 a month more taking my cost from $80 to $140... Not insignificant.
Now could Verizon have an app and eliminate STB/DVR today by using a Roku or Chromecast. Absolutely. And they don't because they make obscene margin on equipment and try to lock you in to their proprietary platforms. This new VMS stuff costs them even less than the last generation equipment, and guess what Verizon is charging $20 more to enter the game.
Nobody ever talks about the "actual" price which is what you pay every month, not the package price.
Why is he saying this...Well valuation. They don't want to say to Comcast you are buying a turd. It's all sunshine and roses. TWC trucks are like model T's in my area. I don't think I've seen a truck around in quite some time. We still have 2002 speeds here. Verizon has lapped them, so maybe they just go for the suckers. | |
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2014-May-30 2:25 pm
Re: !said by elefante72:I'm in the "cord-maybe" column where my Fios package is $10 more for 150 channels than simply internet. Outside of broadcast, no more than 5% of family viewing happens on pay tv--the rest the dearth of on demand streaming options.. I'm in a similar boat. Time Warner Cable gave us a good deal last time. We're essentially paying $50 a month for cable TV. Most of our watching is Netflix/Amazon Prime/Roku, but there are enough cable TV shows that we'd still want to watch if we cut the cord. Paying for them would eat into the $50 a month savings until cord cutting wasn't worthwhile. Once that deal expires, though, cord cutting might be completely viable. Especially given that we're getting more and more used to watching TV without relying on cable TV as our source. said by elefante72:Now could Verizon have an app and eliminate STB/DVR today by using a Roku or Chromecast. Absolutely. And they don't because they make obscene margin on equipment and try to lock you in to their proprietary platforms. That's one good thing about Time Warner Cable. They have a nice app that lets you view channels - even some on demand channels - via your Roku box. So you could use your Roku as your cable box and avoid any set top box fees. | |
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Re: !Ha. I started on a VT100 terminal programming on an 8650... I know of what you speak my friend... My big update was my own VaxStation. | |
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Would it still be considered cord cutting if you are simply changing the transport method to view your content via IP rather than a traditional cable box yet are still using the same provider as your transport medium?
This is part of what I mean by the definition being vague. The other is the following.
If provider X(Comcast) has a internet based streaming service. I have provider Y(TimeWarner)[Internet only]. By me subscribing to provider X I am still obtaining an "internet-based" service even though on this internet based service I am still paying a traditional cable provider.
So....Is the only reason I qualify as a cord cutter is because I am using IP? Or is the real argument al la carte versus channels?
If it's al la carte versus channels then doesn't this solution exist such as VOD? | |
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2014-May-31 1:06 am
Re: !at this point there is not a viable full featured ip only video solution like your how cable tv solution. Once that happens (yes small startups nothing mainstream yet) then it will blur. Right now if you dont get traditional channels as a bundle on a schedule everyone has to watch at the same time then you are a cord cutter. | |
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If you are paying a cable company for that streaming package but not using their set top boxes (e.g. using a Roku) then you're not a cord cutter. | |
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2014-Jun-1 11:58 am
Re: !A cord cutter is simply one who does not pay for TV services provided via a cable company then by any transport medium. However if Target tomorrow started offering streaming services for their box store collection I am still classified as a cord cutter just because it's not the cable company. | |
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Re: !Yes because youre not using regular cable you would be a cord cutter. Look at DirecTV's numbers and others adding customers over cable. Those customers transferring companies for deals are NOT true cord cutters. they're just playing the promo game. | |
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See above- cord cutting can't be alive as much as bloggers like to push. DirecTV and others are seeing customers added every quarter. If it was truly happening nobody would be adding customers like they are. | |
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No. Your wrong. Cord cutting is getting rid of TV and Internet. All those who say they are cord cutters but keep forking it over for internet are only living a pipe dream. The ONLY cord cutting is OTA. Period. Get it right. | |
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2014-Jun-2 8:58 am
Re: !There are plenty of cord cutters who continue to use Internet and get some video entertainment from Netflix, Amazon, etc. OTA is part of the cord cutting formula, but not the entire thing. (Of course, if a cord cutter is satisfied with OTA, that's perfectly fine as well.) I don't think you'll find any cord cutters on BBR who have ditched their Internet connection as well. | |
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A cord cutter is someone who does not subscribe to a traditional pay CATV package, and typically gets their TV needs met through an old school over-the-air antenna, and/or an internet subscription providing access to IPTV or VOD programing.
Cord cutting is the action of canceling one's pay CATV subscription. | |
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You scared Jeff?What an arrogant ass...
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2014-May-30 1:33 pm
Re: You scared Jeff?They're fighting cord cutters now (while still trying to laugh at them) via caps and trying to charge Internet video providers extra to deliver data to the users. By doing this, they hope to make Internet video more expensive than cable. Because if you can't compete, use your monopoly to crush the competition. | |
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2014-May-31 10:35 am
Re: You scared Jeff?The group the cord cutters may hurt the most is the content providers and the way they sell their packages channels that nobody watches but have to pay.
Maybe because I am not into sports and don't pay for the HBO type channels I am finding nights that I can not find a single program I care to watch. I could get by on OTA if I did not live out of range of all but one station.
Here is my bill with TWC.
Starter TV 20.49
Standard TV 54.29
Variety Pass 7.25
HD Pass 6.95
The Guide 3.27
HD Set Top Box 6.98
Standard Internet 57.99
Total 157.18
I love this fee TWC Regulatory Recovery Fee 0.18
I am thinking about cutting the cord. | |
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2014-May-30 1:22 pm
Denial: it's not just a river in Egypt!As a telecom guy, I lived through the transition that saw millions of POTS customers "cut-the-cord" in favor of wireless and VoIP. It was real, and it was inevitable. Having said that, pay-TV is a bit more complicated. Voice is a pretty simple service; Internet phone applications have been around since the mid-90s.Streaming video is a little bit more complicated (but not much) and so I think older folks will stick with what they know, pay-TV, for now at least. Of course that is true of most new technologies and older folks, but eventually the stream of cord-cutters will become a rising tide. When that time comes, the cable TV companies had better embrace the change (as the telcos did, in fact they are trying to actively push people off old POTS service) or they will be left behind. Bewkes is in denial, but he's probably just touting the company line. | |
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2014-May-30 1:52 pm
Re: Denial: it's not just a river in Egypt!Netflix is great, but it's missing sports and near-real-time programming (think contest shows like The Voice or local news). I know a lot of folks around here don't "give a f***" about those types of shows (to quote a post I saw on the last thread), but there's a social aspect to TV. People like to talk to friends and coworkers about what happened on the latest episode of The Walking Dead, or American Idol, or the last football game. If Netflix can figure out how to bring this type of programming into its fold, traditional TV will be in big trouble.
POTS is a good analogy though. POTS itself probably wouldn't have faced such a demise had it just adapted to its competition. I can get a voip line with unlimited nationwide calling and features galore for $150 for two years, why am I going to spend $50/month for pots and get nickel-and-dimed for things like caller ID, call waiting, and voicemail that now costs virtually nothing to offer? I suspect traditional TV will make the same mistake and refuse to compete. | |
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Netflix is great, but it's missing sports and near-real-time programming (think contest shows like The Voice or local news). I know a lot of folks around here don'tsaid by TuxRaiderPen2:
"give a fuck"
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Let me fix that for you!  I want full credit...  said by djrobx:
but there's a social aspect to TV.
There is ???? said by djrobx:
People like to talk to friends and coworkers about what happened on the latest episode of The Walking Dead, or American Idol, or the last football game.
Well don't watch any of that... and Don't discuss my shows outside of rec.arts.tv, mostly. said by djrobx:
If Netflix can figure out how to bring this type of programming into its fold, traditional TV will be in big trouble.
It could be done now... BUT The sportcrapifaa will want to put restrictions in place to ensure that you only watch sportcrapifaa approved feed of the team you couldn't care less about but because you live in that area you have to put up with it OR pay EXORBITANT fee for a xyz ticket to get them all...That would probably be about $1K/year for the big 3, crapfl, craphl, craplb... add say another $300/year for crapcar, crapelegefb... said by djrobx:
I suspect traditional TV will make the same mistake and refuse to compete.
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said by fg8578:... I think older folks will stick with what they know ... Of course that is true of most new technologies and older folks ...
It has been twenty-five years since I turned forty. Yet here I am, a "cord never" who has been playing with computers since 1978, and signed up an online service in 1983. I set up my first home LAN with SPX/IPX (Novell Personal Netware 1.0) on MS-DOS 6.22 with Windows 3.1, using 10Base2 ("ThinLAN"). My first attempt at running a media server was a crappy Java-based computer program (server) and a crappy third party Sony PS2 application (client). Not very good, a waste of money and time; but it did show the way to the future. | |
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2014-May-30 10:23 pm
Re: Denial: it's not just a river in Egypt!Variations of the same theme and although somewhat expensive to "Get it right" with marginal results, those that remember understand just how complex the "Industry" attempts to make common sense, difficult to understand for many. BTW -Java has always been and always will be the Bitch.
The future is getting everyday customers to understand basics and until that happens, corporations will continue to turn the screws on profiteering from ridiculous charges or fees, rather than innovation. Even today VoIP can be had for just a few cents and how is that racket going post the Vonage startup? Many people used it way before it was public or popular. Same with Digital verse Analog, cheaper in everyway, except in payment these days.
Sometimes I think the Country is on the lower 1/3 of the Bell curve, just look at those "POOR" Countries and their costs and affordability. Free WIFI coming to you if you sign up now!
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Article Title vs actual quotes??How does "Once they take the mattress and get it off the floor, that's when they subscribe to TV," translate into "live with mom"?
Wouldn't it more likely translate into "once they have enough money to buy luxuries like furniture/etc" vs mattress on the floor like many people barely making ends meet?
Do that many middle-class kids usually have their mattress on the floor? I thought parents usually buy them beds...
Not that I disagree with any of the rest of the sentiments expressed, but I just don't see where the leap came to interpret the comment that way. | |
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2014-May-30 1:58 pm
Re: Article Title vs actual quotes??I was wondering the same.
There's at least some logical correlation to mattresses on the floor and cord cutting. A mattress is perfectly functional on the floor, the frame and box spring are aesthetic luxuries. Both are things you might do to try and avoid spending money unnecessarily. | |
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2014-May-31 10:55 am
Re: Article Title vs actual quotes??If the cable and phone bill were not so high you could afford the other things in life. TV watching was free when I was young and many of the shows were better. I fact many of them are still being shown on all the added channels no one watches. | |
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2014-May-30 1:37 pm
WowHello, Clue phone? You need one buddy, you're so not in touch with your end users and customers it isn't even funny. See ya in 10 years when you're begging to be bailed out because you've spent so much time forcing video services that people are no longer subscribing to. See ya in bankruptcy court, asshat. | |
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2014-May-30 1:48 pm
RealityThe scenario they should be very afraid of is one where pricing reaches a peak with their consumers and negotiations with content providers becomes increasing difficult to settle. Eventually content providers will stop doing business with the TV providers and finally offer their services directly to customers without forcing them to have a TV subscription service for access.
It's already beginning to happen now, and I only see this movement growing.
Although, the only way this will work is if steps are taken to ensure that the TV providers will not be able to use their captive customer base to force content providers to pay a toll, and the Wild West "rules" governing their ability to manipulate data however they see fit should be more strict, clear, and enforceable. | |
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2014-May-30 2:38 pm
Cord cutMark one for Over 40, educated, and employed. Being slapped in the face with a $100 cable bill just doesn't work for me. Anyway, I'm an athletic outdoors type so it was inevitable.
Still, I think either he is ignorant, or purposely misleading. My expectation is that the people with the least money will be the last to cut. When you make enough money to consider actually doing something with it, then you start seriously evaluating how it is being spent. | |
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It's this arrogance by the cable industry that frustrates me!The arrogance of this CEO is exactly why I look forward to the day I can cut the cord (waiting on my wife!). It's really absurd the way cord cutters are talked about and how the cable industry really does have most of us by the you know what.  | |
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Re: It's this arrogance by the cable industry that frustrates me!We are Nevers. Not living at parents' homes. That idiot hasn't learned that a good book and your imagination is more effective than just sitting there.
I got insulted years ago by a cable sales idiot who bothered me on the phone. Since then, I've boycotted the whole shebang. We've never had cable. Don't want cable.
We have better things to do, and we entertain ourselves with projects and hobbies.
I do subscribe to MLB on the Roku. I used to listen to any game I could find on cross country trips and I happen to like baseball. I can get PBS on the Roku too. I work on digitizing, photo editing and other crafts on the computer while watching. | |
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For the price of pay TV service....You could get 5 to 10 different VOD services, and use any number of free online streaming options, not to mention the networks' own websites. But you can also get a lot of content for less as well. You have to decide how much immediate gratification is worth to you. | |
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2014-May-30 4:34 pm
Keep beating that drum...And to think it was only yesterday that Karl actually published data affirming that cord cutting is... but a notion.
Let us also take note that this is a content company, not a cable firm speaking.
They are the ones fully in control of how their product is viewed - if they felt they could make money selling to "cord cutters" or "cord nevers", they would.
For the record, should anyone actually read the article, not once does Bewkes state that Cord Cutters Live With Mom; that notion lives only in the mind of our editor.
What Bewkes does not address, is why those fresh out of the nest don't subscribe pay-tv - the entry price is the same, whether one lives alone, or in a household of six, and even if in the latter situation, with housemates, managing a six-way split on a cable bill is just unforgiving. (I regularly witness the dramatic unraveling of such arrangements in line at the cable office.)
I suspect they've run the numbers, and determined while a new delivery model could capture some "cord nevers" and the newly cord-cut, they wouldn't make any additional profit, and eventually, the new line would sabotage existing sales. | |
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This old fart cut the cord.I cut the cord and liked it. I like the extra money I have in my Bank Account at the end of the month.
Am going to throw my experience in the ring in the event anyone with any sense follows these stories and is keeping score.
I kept track of shows and networks being watched on Comcast. Determined many were not worth watching or I could wait to watch them online or via Roku.
So I just kept HSI. Problem or opportunity is that in my Franchise area, Comcast charges an extra $15.00 for bare HSI. I could get Basic Cable, channels 2-29 for $12.00 plus taxes and fees in my part of town. No brainer to have that TV package and HSI, as cost is the same or about a $1 more or less.
And I have a job, moved out from Mom's house when I was 19 and have 2 University Degrees and coursework beyond a simple Bachelors. I was successfully Self Employed for over 25 years and worked a W-2 job during some of that period. Now go ahead and profile me. And many of my peers in my age group have done the same as I.
As to other services/industries have been Cell Phone only since 2003. Had one job for 8 months where Internet was Dialup and we got 3 OTA TV Stations a few years back. Adapted to that hardship. Could drive into town and get HSI at the Library or Cafe when needed. Amazing what one can do! And do without. | |
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2014-May-30 5:17 pm
The other cord cutterThe other cord cutters that Karl Bode writes about are the wireline users. He claims only the old and senile are gullible enough to buy CenturyLink's latest price increase.
Bode does not live in rural America; does not understand rural America or why wireline is necessary to communicate with the rest of the world. I'll bet all the hospitals in NY and LA and Chicago all use VoIP for patient phones and cell towers for doctors.
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Re: The other cord cutterWe have wireline, but for internet only. We use cell phones. I got tired of the damn answering machine. At least with cell, I didn't have to hear everyone's messages.
We only wind up watching baseball when we go on vacation anyway. I don't believe we have ever turned on anything else besides football, news and weather.
I have my wifi tablet and the other half drools over the girls on the Weather Channel.
Since that's all we watch on the road, why bother to even think about getting cable? | |
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2014-Jun-1 4:07 am
Re: The other cord cutterI need a wireline for medical reasons. I cut the cable cord years ago. I tired satellite and have had it ever since. It is not cheap but my phone and net are about $100 for CL phone and net, cable and cell phone. The same would cost me $50 more for voip and cable. Voip does not work nicely on CL where I live; the uplink it too small. | |
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We are the proofAt RWSI we have the "Cut the cord" people that don't want the ridiculous cable tv or lousy phone company product. They are coming over in bunches.
Time Warner and others are in denial without a doubt. | |
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BiggA
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join:2005-11-23
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BiggA
Premium Member
2014-May-30 7:31 pm
He's basically rightCord cutting is not a huge thing so long as the good content is locked up on cable. The people who are cord cutters are just people who didn't watch much TV in the first place. | |
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| hortnutHuh?
join:2005-09-25
PDX Metro |
Re: He's basically rightsaid by BiggA:Cord cutting is not a huge thing so long as the good content is locked up on cable. The people who are cord cutters are just people who didn't watch much TV in the first place. Good point, but the real reason they should be worried is that many paid for Cable, even if they did not watch it. Whether someone watched or not they still paid. If one has cut the cord or downgraded their TV package, revenue is lost and probably will be lost forever. In 2008 Dish had a retransmission dispute with the Company that carried the local ABC affiliate. Lasted for many months. This viewer has only in the last year started to watch ABC shows. Habits do and can change. | |
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BiggA
Premium Member
2014-Jun-1 1:26 pm
Re: He's basically rightI think most people who have cable do watch stuff on it, and conversely most people watch stuff on cable. I just don't think they have that much to worry about. There is a little bit of "right sizing" for a market that was a bit bloated in the first place... | |
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He's not talking to us and he doesn't care what we think.Unless you are on the board of Time Warner, or a stockholder, he doesn't care. He will say whatever is necessary, within the law, to keep the stock price as high as possible.
A corporate captain has to stay on message and be a true believer. He knows that if he repeats a favorable random observation often enough, he may convince a significant number of people not to abandon ship until the lifeboats are already full. | |
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 PamelaTSDigital Chick
join:2004-04-20
Dallas, TX
HTC 5G Hub
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I'm in my mid 50's, I've cut the cordI was a long time DirecTV customer; very happy until I had to move and couldn't get DirecTV at my new apartment. I tried TWC TV for 18 months and cut the cord going OTA and streaming only.
I live alone with my cat! Cut the land line phone cord also! | |
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 Rogue WolfAn Easy Draw of a Sad Few
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY |
So the sentiment......is "the only people who don't buy what we sell are those who can't afford it".
I actually cut the cord when I moved out of Mom's place. All the TV I watched was OTA, and eventually I stopped watching even that. Now anything I want to view, I watch on the Internet.
And my mattress is off the floor, thank you very much. | |
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. . Nahhhh not with HP... 
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