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Comments on news posted 2014-06-02 10:32:41: Over the years the FCC has belated bumped the definition of broadband numerous times, from 200 kbps to 768 kbps, and then to 4 Mbps back in 2010. ..

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bigballer
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Guess I don't have broadband here

Let's see:

for comcast:

3/768: 39.95
6/1: 49.95
12/2: 64

Zenit_IIfx
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Wow, what Comcast system are you in? Are you in an area that is going to be spun off to SpinCo after the Comcast-Time Warner Merger?

bigballer
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Chicago

Internet only prices. Clearly my market isn't very competitive. My only other option is ATT (DSL, not Uverse.)

Some suburbs are lucky enough to get WOW, which only charges something like 15/2 for 49.99.

Zenit_IIfx
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This is important

As time goes on, the minimum speed needed to partake in the usage of modern information services goes up. By increasing this minimum definition, it will put more pressure on the Cable providers to offer speeds 10mbps or above, and make the national broadband statistics more truthful.

Today, 25mbps download bandwidth seems to be a sweet spot. Downloads of large files are sufficiently quick, small files download near-instantly, and HD streaming is possible.

If the FCC does this, all of VZ Wireline in my town wont be considered broadband, unless you live right next door to the ailing DSLAM in the CO. (The solution will be the FIOS promised, but they are yet to even begin construction and the deadline approaches fast. Instead, they build outside the town in semi-rural subdivisions.)
Bob61571
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Frontier only offers 3 Mbps/768bps at my house,

so I am all for the FCC upping the definition for broadband.

This should put pressure on Frontier, besides the fact that my residential block is going over 50% for an overbuilder fiber CLEC that should be installing in the next month. They just installed the new ONT the other day on the side of the house.
Joe12345678
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Re: Guess I don't have broadband here

must be older plans as they have newer faster speeds at or under the prices you list there.
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Re: Frontier only offers 3 Mbps/768bps at my house,

Lucky you, I only get 1.5 tops. They might as well classify broadband as gigabit. It is not going help my connection any.
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Re: This is important

good thing that ATT is buying directv as they can move subs over sat and free up room / change profiles for faster internet on u-verse. Keeping the TV part for people who can't get sat / temp rain fade backup.

bigballer
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Re: Guess I don't have broadband here

I'm referring to internet only plans. No TV/phone bundle.

I believe comcast bumped up speeds for those who are bundled

spewak
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Narrowband

That is what Frontier would call their product.

davidc502
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Governement over-reach by some

I'm sure there will be a certain portion of the population that says this is complete over-reach by the government!
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Re: Guess I don't have broadband here

Shit I thought Cox was bad...I pay $60 for 50/10
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Re: This is important

How is it going to put pressure on the MSOs? The ISPs don't set their speeds based upon this. This "redefining" means nothing as it always has. The FCC is just in the "news again" for nothing.

michieru
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No power.

I don't see what does it matter for the carriers since they are just going to adjust the costs accordingly. Even if they do fall off the FCC standard for what broadband should be it's only a standard and not one I believe could be enforced. So at the end of the day this becomes the 3G/4G debate in which carries have decided to call LTE a 4G term even though initially it was still classified as 3G.
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Re: Governement over-reach by some

Never mind that the FCC has no teeth in this.
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Re: Guess I don't have broadband here

That is bad considering CenturyLink will do 40/5 for $29.99 or 40/20 for $34.99 if you're close enough to the DSLAM.

I also go over the "cap" on CenturyLink on a regular basis and never hear a peep from them. Cox was charging me $72 a month and I'd get emails monthly until they finally told me I had to go to a business plan for using 280GB, so I just took my business elsewhere.
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Re: Narrowband

said by spewak:

That is what Frontier would call their product.

More like Microband....
klineba
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Truth in advertising. The only thing that will change if they up the definition of broadband to 10Mbps, will be that my connection will be UP TO 10Mbps instead of UP TO 6Mbps as it is now.
brad152
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Re: Frontier only offers 3 Mbps/768bps at my house,

Or it could be AT&T at my aunt's place in Ohio. The copper is so shitty outside, she technically qualifies for 12Mbps ADSL2+ U-Verse internet, but the max the line will actually do is 3M/500k.

Luckily they were able to make it $9.99/mo for the remainder of her contract, so 3Mbps is fine for that price but still insane in this day and age.
afn06011
join:2012-10-15
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Unstream speeds

No mention of the definition of upstream speeds mentioned.
AT&T U-verse at upstream of 1.0 Mbps sure doesn't qualify as
'broadband'

Hazy Arc
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Re: Guess I don't have broadband here

That's interesting, considering I pay $46 a month for "Pure" DSL from Centurylink at 10Mbps/768Kbps.
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wha? I'm in Chi and I have 50/10 for $70, which is still a rip off but marginally acceptable.

Chicago coverage is street to street but I'm kinda surprised they won't give you any high speed options.

why60loss
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Well Time warner cable is going to be pissed

10/3 well the plans of there customers are on are like this

$14.99-2/1
$57.99-15/1
$67.99-20/2

Only two of there plans will really be broadband now:

$77.99-30/5
$87.99-50/5

This is just sad at this point. Only those in NYC and LA are going to get good speeds out of TWC while the rest will most likely suffer from non-broadband speeds.

SimbaSeven
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CL better upgrade!

Looks like instead of bumping ADSL to ADSL2+, they'd better be jumping to VDSL2 instead.

Of course, this would require an investment in the network, and we all know how hesitant CL and AT&T are about that.
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Re: Guess I don't have broadband here

Could be using an old modem.
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Re: No power.

enforced? The FCC can't enforce it. The internet is no a communications service. It's Information Services.
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Re: This is important

You'd get at most a 10mbps bump in speed, probably closer to 5 or 6
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Re: Governement over-reach by some

They can define it anyway they want and that is what ISPs will be measured against, thus they have a mouth full of teeth.
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Re: Guess I don't have broadband here

isn't the default that they rent you one of their own so it supports the maximum possible speeds?

JohnCC
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What's the point?

Am I missing something here - does it even matter what the "definition" of broadband is? Advertising won't change, they just won't be able to call it "broadband." Big whoop.
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