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Comments on news posted 2014-06-17 12:33:13: At this point in the net neutrality debate, most ISPs aren't interested in inviting tougher neutrality rules by engaging in heavy-handed anti-competitive behavior, so you'd be hard pressed to see any ISP do something egregiously stupid -- like bannin.. ..



jmn1207
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Wheeler's Main Goal is Paid Priority Access

I'm convinced this is why Wheeler was put into the position he is in. The big carriers are looking to get paid priority access into play, and this is the man to make it happen.

»www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the···nternet/


Mr Matt

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Does that mean Toll Free telephone numbers should be banned?

On one hand it seems unfair to allow websites to pay for users traffic, giving them a competitive advantage. On the other hand a company like Netflix or Amazon.com have a lot more leverage to negotiate better rates for their customers than end users can. Including usage cost in the price of the service would be better for customers. Website pays would eliminate the need for CAPS since the ISP's will receive compensation for the cost to upgrade their networks to carry additional traffic, for example streaming services. Unfortunately it will probably be necessary for government to establish regulated rates based on impact on the ISP's network if unregulated price negotiations is unsuccessful in providing fair pricing for websites.



jmn1207
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Small businesses can, and often do, utilize toll free telephone numbers.

The biggest concern comes from how the carriers will charge for these apps to be able to bypass data caps. If the prices are lower based on the number of apps installed on devices or by subscriber numbers, this could be anti-competitive for smaller businesses.

Facebook might get a significant discount because of its popularity and widespread app usage. It may cost only a dime per app used if 50 million apps were installed, making it a $5 million dollar fee.

A smaller company with an app that is only installed on 50,000 devices might not get a similar discount and have to pay $1 per app to bypass the data caps. A smaller business may not be able to pay $50,000 dollars when charging .99 cents for the app, and the carriers can simply keep the smaller competitors separated from the established giants.

The same problem would apply for a flat rate fee. If AT&T charged $5 million to bypass data caps, Facebook would be ok with that, while smaller app developers would not be able to afford this fee and they could not compete on even terms.

Innovation will be dead.



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said by jmn1207:

Facebook might get a significant discount because of its popularity and widespread app usage. It may cost only a dime per app used if 50 million apps were installed, making it a $5 million dollar fee.

A smaller company with an app that is only installed on 50,000 devices might not get a similar discount and have to pay $1 per app to bypass the data caps.

Innovation will be dead.

Most customers don't care about innovation - IF they get lower prices from established players.

And there is a good reason the very big customers get volume discounts. It is cheaper for a Comcast to deal with 1 big client than it is to deal with 500 smaller ones.


ieolus
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join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA
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Is the Internet a packet-switched telephone network?

If ISP caps are for "network management" and to help with "web hogs", how does an ISP justify certain apps that can bypass the cap?
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Flyonthewall

@206.248.154.x

Because they got paid to do it. No money, no honey...pretty simple.



fg8578

join:2009-04-26
Salem, OR

Chile Bans Letting Some Apps Bypass Data Caps

Chilean government: "In order to help end users, we first have to hurt end users (especially the poorest). And we also know what's best for you, even better than you do. So trust us, we're from the government, and we're here to help. "



nothing00

join:2001-06-10
Centereach, NY

Another job killing policy

Job Killers.



flwpwr

@67.160.90.x

in other news

»www.pcworld.com/article/2364722/···ine.html

Apparently someone is introducing a bill that says some stuff is illegal for private providers to do for internet access...



fiosultimate

join:2014-06-09
San Antonio, TX
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Re: Chile Bans Letting Some Apps Bypass Data Caps

Obama is president of Chile too?? Sounds like it



MxxCon

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Re: Another job killing policy

orly?