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Comments on news posted 2014-08-11 13:26:16: After Google Fiber announced their expansion plans to Austin, AT&T rushed to announce that they too would be offering 1 Gbps service in the weird city. ..

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Kuro

@75.151.50.x

1 recommendation

Does it still have a datacap?

Last I had heard was that there was a 1TB monthly data cap, is that still in play?

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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A friend lives in one of the complexes down on Riverside that has GigaPower. I'll have him post here when the upgrade hits for him .

my guess is that it'll take a bit before anyone actually sees the gigabit speeds, judging by the speed at which AT&T goes stuff.

That said, even with the 1TB cap I'm envious of the connection he's got. Predictable, lower latency and of course much higher speeds than what I can get with TWC, even with Maxx. Heck, even if I went way over that 1TB cap (I wouldn't; my usage varies from 100-400GB per month) I wouldn't be paying any more per month than I am right now for my 300/20 connection.

EDIT: Still only 300/300 for now.

ipwn3r456

join:2013-07-31
Los Angeles, CA
reply to Kuro
Yep. 1TB, no more, no less.


morbo
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said by ipwn3r456:

Yep. 1TB, no more, no less.

I'm no fan of caps, but 1TB is not bad compared to Comcast's 300GB data cap.


Kuro

@75.151.50.x
reply to iansltx
Only reason I ask is because it seems dumb to even purchase this over capless google fiber because you would hit it faster. No point in buying a car that can go 150 mph over one that goes 50 mph if you hit a brick wall after a mile regardless of your purchase. Although that also assumes you have a choice between the two.

existenz

join:2014-02-12
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Hopefully Google starts a middle tier option in response

TWC started 300M in KC and ATT claims 1GB coming for Overland Park area of KC. Hopefully Google will start a middle tier option like 100Mb-300Mb for $40. There are some in KC who don't want to pay $70 for Internet yet 5Mb not enough, though I don't see Google making a move until not getting the Gbit sub rate they want, which doesn't seem to be a problem so far.

Small sample but basically most who can get Gfiber are getting it...
»kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19574


IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman

join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1

Deep Packet Inspection for Everybody!


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to Kuro

Re: Does it still have a datacap?

Can pretty much guarantee that areas with GigaPower won't get GFiber. AT&T probably has exclusivity agreements with any apartment complex that they run fiber through; I know that that friend can't get TWC residential where he is.

ipwn3r456

join:2013-07-31
Los Angeles, CA
Reviews:
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1 recommendation

reply to Kuro
said by Kuro :

Only reason I ask is because it seems dumb to even purchase this over capless google fiber because you would hit it faster. No point in buying a car that can go 150 mph over one that goes 50 mph if you hit a brick wall after a mile regardless of your purchase. Although that also assumes you have a choice between the two.

And what's even more dumb is that, you have to pay extra $30/month for the whatever "privacy protection". I think they will still check you anyway.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
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reply to Kuro
said by Kuro :

it seems dumb to even purchase this over capless google fiber

Is it possible to have a choice between AT&T Gigapower and Google Fiber at the same address?
--
I do not, have not, and will not work for AT&T/Comcast/Verizon/Charter or similar sized company.


mackey
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reply to existenz

Re: Hopefully Google starts a middle tier option in response

Those people who don't "want" to pay $70, are they paying it anyway? If so Google would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did offer that. A lot of people are saying you cannot build a brand new fiber network and make money at $70/mo, so what chance would they have at $40/mo? The building of the network, tech support, stringing the cable to the house, etc all cost the same to do at 100 mbps as it does at 1 gbps, so only getting half the revenue from subscribers would just not be sustainable.

/M


morbo
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The cost is $100 a month

Let's be clear on the gigapower service. It costs $100 month. If you let AT&T spy on you they will give you a $30 a month discount, but the real price is $100.

$100 for gigabit internet from AT&T.


Metatron2008
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join:2008-09-02
united state

At&twat is probably already spying on you with deep packet inspection

You just pay $70 for a legal get out of jail free card..

Merlin

join:2012-06-08
Dallas, TX

It never fails

It was rushed and "only" 300MB...lol Never mind that nobody in Austin was offering anything near that speed tier at the time. The never ending Google love is just amazing. AT&T gets raked over the coals for full disclosure on big data collection but Google hides their tracking and people foolishly believe that a company that generates 99% of its revenues from advertising would not monitor your Internet connection for advertising purposes.


telcodad
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said by Merlin:

The never ending Google love is just amazing. AT&T gets raked over the coals for full disclosure on big data collection but Google hides their tracking and people foolishly believe that a company that generates 99% of its revenues from advertising would not monitor your Internet connection for advertising purposes.

Yeah, Google is inspecting your Gmail:

Google uses ‘unique digital fingerprinting’ to detect child porn in Gmail accounts
By Cristina Corbin, FoxNews.com - August 5, 2014
»www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/08/05/···n-gmail/
quote:
... Nettles noted that this practice by Google and other Internet providers is nothing new – and said such monitoring is essential “for obvious reasons.”

“It’s not any kind of encroachment on someone’s privacy. If you don’t have illegal stuff you’re sending out, everything’s fine,” Nettles said.

There is an agreement between the free Gmail service and users, he explained, and it says, “You’re not supposed to be sharing illegal photos or files.”
:
According to Google’s privacy rules, the tech giant makes clear that “automated systems analyze your content (including emails) to provide you personally relevant product features, such as customized search results, tailored advertising, and spam and malware detection.”

Google also notes that, “We will share personal information with companies, organizations or individuals outside of Google if we have a good-faith belief that access, use, preservation or disclosure of the information is reasonably necessary to … meet any applicable law, regulation, legal process or enforceable governmental request” or “enforce applicable Terms of Service, including investigation of potential violations.”

While Google’s sophisticated method of flagging illegal activity is lauded by law enforcement, digital security experts warn it could have unintended consequences.


agsybshsbbs

@24.243.21.x
reply to Merlin
Shhh, dont tell the peons

onthecake

join:2003-08-08
Kansas City, MO
reply to existenz

Re: Hopefully Google starts a middle tier option in response

I have seen more complaints about the 4 TV limit then the all or nothing internet selections.


SlowFITL

join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL

FITL upgrades

I have proof that many of the Gigapower deployments will be upgrades to FITL.

»ebiznet.att.com/networkreg/#southeast

Kamus

join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX

1 recommendation

Guess Google got SOME success after all...

It was clear that Google deployed their service to get these kind of reactions from the Telcos. (this has worked in other tech sectors, such as tablets and smartphones) But i was very skeptical it would have ANY effect on the telcos at all.
Glad to see i was somewhat wrong. This isn't that significant, but It's a start.

existenz

join:2014-02-12
kudos:2
reply to onthecake

Re: Hopefully Google starts a middle tier option in response

Most don't notice that until after service and I imagine there are more who want a middle tier service than have more than 4 TVs in household. Word is 4 TV limit is being addressed but no sign of middle tier option.

existenz

join:2014-02-12
kudos:2
reply to mackey
Yeah, I'd guess they need that $70 subscription to make it worth rolling out. I don't see them offering a lower tier unless they need to, but they probably would pickup more subscriptions - is not like they're hurting for them though.


rolande
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reply to SlowFITL

Re: FITL upgrades

said by SlowFITL:

I have proof that many of the Gigapower deployments will be upgrades to FITL.

»ebiznet.att.com/networkreg/#southeast

Come February-March timeframe, there are going to be a lot of happy people from Florida up to North Carolina.
--
Scott, CCIE #14618 Routing & Switching
»rolande.wordpress.com/

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

1 recommendation

reply to iansltx

Re: Does it still have a datacap?

That sucks. Exclusivity deals like that should be illegal...

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
reply to mackey

Re: Hopefully Google starts a middle tier option in response

Yeah, that makes sense. And considering that cable internet is $50-$60 for way slower speeds, it's a really good deal.

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
reply to onthecake
Wow, that's pathetic. Hopefully they get that fixed soon. That right there would be a reason to not get their TV service...

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
reply to telcodad

Re: It never fails

That's a website, not an entire ISP.

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
reply to onthecake

Re: Hopefully Google starts a middle tier option in response

The TV seems kind of half-baked too. Better than when they started, but not all the way there. That being said, no re-compression sounds AMAZING with a large screen, like a projector, so that alone is awesome!

existenz

join:2014-02-12
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TV is pretty solid but there are some quirks with things like tablet app that can't schedule outside home or play all of TV content on tablet. Most can be fixed with software but they do have the fundamentals stronger than others, such as 15Mbps MPEG4 video - no additional compression - is noticeably clearer than others. The 4 TV limit is odd though given they allow 8 recordings at once - they say they'll address limit.

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to BiggA

Re: Does it still have a datacap?

It's private property. Until telecom is a utility they do what they want because it's more efficient that way.

elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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reply to BiggA
said by BiggA:

That sucks. Exclusivity deals like that should be illegal...

Wrong. Exclusive MDU deals are often the only way you're going to get the advanced service.

No one is forcing you to live there.