uther
join:2001-12-04
Saint Louis, MO | -yawn-
Ehh, I never liked McAffee anyways.. Gimme Norton AV anytime.
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York | Thank you! |
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Foxbat121
join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA | reply to uther
Norton AV is just as useless as McAffee. |
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justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
Brooklyn, NY | AV products live in the past
They only protect you against what is old... |
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the strokes$
join:2001-06-15
Louisville, KY | what do you suggest?
So if neither NAV or mcafee are any good, what is?
NAV seems to work just fine for myself and my network... |
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rangerlg9
join:2000-11-20
Houston, TX | I use InnoculateIT. It was just the right price and is not a resource hog like the big two. AVG is pretty good also. |
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uther
join:2001-12-04
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to Foxbat121
Re: -yawn-
said by Foxbat121:
Norton AV is just as useless as McAffee.
They're more effective than McAffee... I like Norton.. plus I like F-Secure back when they were called F-Prot  Again, my WWiV BBS sysop roots show...
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Foxbat121
join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA | reply to the strokes$
Re: what do you suggest?
I use common sense for over 10 years and never got infected by any virus. |
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Foxbat121
join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA
| reply to uther
Re: -yawn-
I beg the diff. In the AV industry, NAV ranked bottom. The only thing Norton has is good marketing machine.
[text was edited by author 2002-02-07 16:41:35] |
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justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
Brooklyn, NY | reply to Foxbat121
Re: what do you suggest?
yes I like that product as well. I also like an OS that doesnt try to run things to "help" you, unless you ask it to. |
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York | reply to justin
Re: AV products live in the past
Yeah, but Symantec comes up with a new signature file almost every other day.
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TxKent
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Pflugerville, TX
 ·Suddenlink
 ·AT&T Southwest
|  Not again...
This is just like the Wintel vs. Mac, Republican vs. Democrat discussions.
I use NAI products at work - have for years. I have Prime Support, and we don't have a lot of problems. When I've attempted to test other products, I have run into issues.
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs: | reply to Foxbat121
Re: -yawn-
ranking reference? supporting info?
I've been an avid user of Symantec products for many years now. I think their stuff is (largely) top-notch. If you're going to make such damning statements, please provide references.
KM |
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Speakeasy
| reply to Foxbat121
Re: what do you suggest?
I used to think that...
But that last round of virii - the Nimda thing. Ouch. Didn't hurt any of my data but what a PITA. Our timesheets are on the intranet. Our company server runs IIS and our website on the same machine. Yes, the admin was an idiot and didn't keep up with patches, so Nimda infected the server, and when we went to enter time...everyone else got infected, then the shares were infected...pain in the BUTT to deal with.
I run AV software in the background all the time now. I'm not afraid so much of my lapses, especially since I use Netscape for email, but with networked machines - I deal with the performance hit background AV tasks cost.
KM |
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redleaf
join:2000-09-12
| reply to uther
Re: -yawn-
F-Prot ruled! Free and thorough.
As for Norton, they're good precisely because of their ease of use (I don't remember the last time I saw an ad for them.) Whenever someone asks about a good AV program the next question is usually is it easy to use. The AV program is useless if the user is scared to update it.
[text was edited by author 2002-02-07 18:32:11] |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | reply to uther
Ever see the muck norton makes out of your registry? you have to format and reload to get that 'virus' out. I prefer AVP |
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biscuitsjam
join:2000-09-03
Marietta, GA
| Norton Products
We've been burned by Symantec 3 times in the past couple of years. We first got Norton Antivirus 2000 which constantly crashed and froze up the system. When the computers were upgraded to Windows 2000, we were told that it would no longer work and we would have to WAIT for their next version to be out and then PURCHASE it at full cost. The people on the phone were very rude and hostile. We escalated it all the way up to their VP at which point we were basically told to screw ourselves. After a letter to the Better Business Bureau, they gave us a full refund, though no apology.
We then went with Norton Antivirus 2001. It was a horrible memory hog and caused numerous crashes and freezes. It was patched, but the patch caused the live update feature to quit working. It became impossible to even uninstall the program. After reformatting the hard disk and then reinstalling Norton, the same symptoms persisted. Symantec wanted us to pay them money to get support, even if they were unable to resolve our problem
Most recently, we bought Norton Ghost 2002. The program doesn't have any crashing bugs, but the user interface is pretty poor. We also discovered that our regular backups of Windows 2000 were worthless when we swapped out the hard drives on one machine with newer, quieter, cooler drives. Apparently, Norton Ghost gets confused by hidden and protected files and does not back them up. Thus, of the 1.2 gigabyte Winnt directory, only 170 megabytes were backed up. It is possible to get around this problem, but you then end up backing up even the blank space (lots of time and CD's/hdd space wasted) and can not put the resulting image on a smaller hard drive (our newer drives were .4 gigabytes smaller). Symantec also provides no technical support for RAID drives, even though it does not state this anywhere in the documentation that comes in the box. If you are not using RAID drives, they will provide support, but only at a steep fee. Our conclusion: Norton Ghost does little other than lull you into a false sense of security.
Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, shame on me. Screw me three times, I must be an idiot. Needless to say, I will not purchase another Symantec product and will strenuously attempt to convince others to do likewise.
-Biscuits
[text was edited by author 2002-02-07 20:06:53] |
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Foxbat121
join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA | reply to KoolMoe
Re: -yawn-
How about worked in AV industry for years in the past and attened many AV conferences?
Foxbat |
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Foxbat121
join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA | reply to biscuitsjam
Re: Norton Products
Like I said, Symantic has very good marketing machine but don't have any programmers. Anyone know where Peter Norton is now?
Same thing can be said for AOL.
Foxbat |
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cork1958
Cork
join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI
·Verizon Online DSL
·Charter Pipeline
| AV comparison
I have used NAV at home for several years now. Started out with McAfee, but my personal thoughts on it are it sucks! Update feature really blows chunks! It caused many more hang ups in the few months I had it than NAV has in the 4 years of it at home. |
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