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Comments on news posted 2002-02-12 11:54:30: As we've mentioned previously, the FTC has been planning a long overdue crackdown on spam, specifically the "fraudulent and deceptive" kind. ..

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MrTangent

join:2001-12-28
Earth
Spam = Jail Time!

Woah. "Arrests" 'Tis not a good day to be a spammer. I have a feeling Kilingspam is going to be elated at this news.


SpammerMAn

@207.148.x.x

PhantomSpammer

Hmmm now I can target spammers with my spam mail on how my new process can protect them from FTC and they can keep on spamming!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will make millions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DrStrange
Technically feasible
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join:2001-07-23
West Hartford, CT
·Stephouse Networks
·magicjack.com
·EarthLink

 It's a start

Well, I suppose it's a start. They need to keep it up until the header-forgers, SMTP-hijackers and everyone else who breaks the rules of the Internet (netiquette and most AUP's say 'no spam') go back to running three-card monte, shell-game and boiler-factory telemarketing scams. Eventually we'll have a federal law (I want the Washington state law, not CT's, which only bans forging of headers and return addresses - I've got my small claims forms ready!), I suppose, but it would be nice to see the Internet police its own, with a little help from the FTC.

I wondered why my Hotmail junk box was empty this morning .


Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast

 Best to have a backup plan

Lets face it, arrests and crackdowns on spam won't fix the problem. Spammers will always be around and email addresses will always be sold. The best way to combat spam is to have two addresses...a spam address and a personal email address. This is what I have.

When I sign up on a website, use the spam address. When I hand email out to friends of mine, use the personal address. I get about 50 spam emails a day and I don't care cause it all goes to the spam account. Simple "select all" and "delete"
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Nightfall - »www.nightfall.net


kilingspam

join:2001-04-30
San Jose, CA

 My wet dream come true!

Looks like I can finally take my vacation!
Kilingspam is doing the Happy Dance!!!
Finally a real message will be sent to this jerks that spam thousands, hijack open relays, and rip off unsuspecting web newbies!


richb01803
Rich

join:2001-02-14
02100

 reply to Nightfall
Re: Best to have a backup plan

Your idea really doesn't work. And it "lets the terrorists win" because you can't keep a permanent "personal email address". Over time more people will find out that address, and it will eventually work its way into a spammer's list.

I want my personal email address of the past 10 years to be the same for the next 10 years. Or the next 50 years.

Riddle me that, Congress.


Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast

Works for me. I have had the same personal address for 5 years. No spam mail yet.

You are right, it doesn't solve the spamming problem. My solution doesn't solve it...but it does provide a way to avoid the problem until something is done about it.
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Nightfall - »www.nightfall.net


master1000

join:2001-02-22
Fort Pierre, SD
 It has been long overdue

I only wish we could do something about all the out of coutry spammers.


richb01803
Rich

join:2001-02-14
02100

North-Atlantic Anti-spam Treaty Organization?

[text was edited by author 2002-02-12 13:57:08]


ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
Premium
join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
Yeah, it is all good until

Just wait till this spam crap comes in from another country that is not exactly on good terms with us. Then what are you going to do about it?
--
Arch Angel - "Death is irrelevant"

andreo

join:2001-03-30
Des Moines, IA

May not stop, maybe slow spam down

While I don't think that it will stop all spam. I do think it will slow it down. Then every Tom, Dick, and Harry won't be flooding mail boxes in hopes of making a quick million in a week. That will leave just the professional spammers to go after. At least some of the spam from the pros are amusing.


twong
Premium
join:2002-01-31
Hartford, CT
 reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: Yeah, it is all good until

Cant we blackhole their website?

Since they're out of the country the Feds cant touch us.


Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
Premium
join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
·Cox HSI

Aol may lose a few million people now

If thats what there going to do send the wagons over to aol,web tv,hotmail.I can't tell you how much crap i get from them a-holes on those isp's."dude you won a million dollers just give me your credit card".Boy the cells will be filling up with spammers(thats a good thing tho:))


WildGod
God Is Dead
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join:2002-01-30
NYC

 reply to MrTangent
Re: Spam = Jail Time!

Ahhhhh we meet again M. Tangent.

Im very happy after reading this article.
These ppl were not arrested simply for sending spam. They were involved in scamming people out of money and they deserve everything they get.
--
AOL DSL SUCKS


WildGod
God Is Dead
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join:2002-01-30
NYC

reply to Nightfall
Re: Best to have a backup plan

Why should we have to go through the trouble of having a backup?
Let these spammers serve some time for any illegal activities they engage in.

We shouldnt have to compromise. Most spam is in some form a scam or deceptive and should be dealt with by legal authorities.
--
AOL DSL SUCKS


MrTangent

join:2001-12-28
Earth

reply to WildGod
Re: Spam = Jail Time!

Wildxgod, I'm tending to side with your view (and hello again). I think the part that we differed on before was our definition of spam (that is to say I think we were confused on each other's definition). I agree that deceptive spam where the spammer hides their true identity and offers no valid product should be eliminated.


WildGod
God Is Dead
Premium
join:2002-01-30
NYC
then we finally agree.
but even with legal commercial email i feel there should be a way to opt out.
hey some ppl dont mind advertisment in their emails but some of us do so i at least want that option.
--
AOL DSL SUCKS


ballszzee

join:2001-07-26
Las Vegas, NV


 reply to MrTangent
I dislike spam advertizing as much as anyone. Yet, any good free email client/program is easily configurable to stop 99% of spam (eg. incredimail.com and some isps). When is the FTC to concentrate on "deceptive telco practices" (called "slamming" at FTC.gov)? (that defraud Americans out of millions more than email advertizers!)
[text was edited by author 2002-02-15 06:07:24]


ballszzee

join:2001-07-26
Las Vegas, NV

 reply to Nightfall
Re: Best to have a backup plan

Backup plan? I just let all potential spammers have my hotmail/yahoo addresses. Spam that may show at personal addresses are put in the poop shute with 2 mouse clicks (blocked and returned to sender).

englishpaulm

join:2002-03-12
Arlington, MA
 SpamSubtract

See »SpamSubtract.com for info about another new program coming to fight spam.
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