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| Music exec hassled me over my mp3 player.. I was on a plane flight yesterday and across the aisle was a music industry exec - record label marketing person. She was a little drunk and talkative.
She spotted my mp3 player and asked where I got the music from - i said "the net, mostly, but also my cds".
she looked a little annoyed and said that it was killing them. She said don't expect to have any major labels (or cd stores) (unless they also make hardware, like sony, or own napster, like BMG) in a few years because nobody is making any money anymore, she says sales have gone to nearly zero unless it is for the top 10 albums..
we discussed it a bit more and we agreed that we'd pay a few bucks an album if we could download it legally for that.. whether this can come quick enough to save some or all of the vast number of music middle men is a different question... either way the stores are probably doomed unless they can economically sell digital music with value-add (listening stations, loads of info etc). | |
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 | | | Re: Music exec hassled me over my mp3 player.. Justin, do you remember listening to albums before buying them? I have seen only 2 places EVER do that. One was Planet Music (they had over 20 listening stations until they went under) and a local shop here in Baltimore (Soundgarden.) Problem is that the music industry doesn't want you sampling anything so you will buy a CD for 1 or 2 songs. What happened to record and cassette singles? What happened to 3" CD singles?
MP3 players are great. They don't skip when you jog, they use less power (and batteries), they allow you to mix your own music (much like people did with cassettes for their cars - ever try to use an LP in a car? ) I thought that after CD's, ROM carts would come. Well, MP3 players are close enough. 
If they stopped killing artists with their slave contracts, then maybe they would do better.
Retail outlets are dying for other reasons. Higher prices, less customer service, etc. If a CD is not in stock, they charge outrageuously for a special order. Whatever happened to a courtesy call? As far as I see it, the RIAA did this themselves and are now paying the price. | |
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| Re: Music exec hassled me over my mp3 player.. said by moonpuppy:
Justin, do you remember listening to albums before buying them? I have seen only 2 places EVER do that. One was Planet Music (they had over 20 listening stations until they went under) and a local shop here in Baltimore (Soundgarden.) Problem is that the music industry doesn't want you sampling anything so you will buy a CD for 1 or 2 songs. What happened to record and cassette singles? What happened to 3" CD singles?
Luckily, nearby there is a virgin megastore with loads of listening stations, they are very popular. I know they sell a lot of CDs that way. I'd love to see a virgin store full of web-type terminals with smartmedia slots, where you browsed music previewed it, then bought it and had it downloaded onto your smartmedia/sony stick/whatever card for a cheap price (cheap because it *costs* so little to deliver it that way - AND the musician can still get their 40c just as they do now!).
If you could do that, and from home as well, you wouldn't bother mucking around with napster type programs unless you had no money to begin with.. in which case your stealing is hardly loss of revenue now is it?
cd singles are kinda dead because its such a pain to load up (and keep) a cd single just for three minutes...
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| Re: Music exec hassled me over my mp3 player.. said by justin:
I'd love to see a virgin store full of web-type terminals with smartmedia slots, where you browsed music previewed it, then bought it and had it downloaded onto your smartmedia/sony stick/whatever card for a cheap price (cheap because it *costs* so little to deliver it that way - AND the musician can still get their 40c just as they do now!).
If you could do that, and from home as well, you wouldn't bother mucking around with napster type programs unless you had no money to begin with.. in which case your stealing is hardly loss of revenue now is it?
Exactly my point, the music industry needs to understand the new technologies and sign on. The software companies have done just that by enabling "buy and download".
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| | | I've been using Emusic for a week or two now. That's a nice way to get music legally for a flat monthly fee. I'm not sure how they're able to make money that way, though.
All of my mp3's are legal. For some good new releases, I might be willing to pay $2 or $3 dollars to download an album legally. | |
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| | | No major labels in a few years? Sounds like a feature, not a bug. | |
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| YearZeroHeavy Metal BakesalePremium
join:2001-08-28 | I went to soundgardens a few times in Baltimore when I go and see my friend every year. Place is pretty nice. The reason music execs are trying to get people to keep buying records is because they will end up losing there own asses. What makes me upset is that the RIAA says that they are losing so much money to people downloading music when they don't even realize it might be the product they are selling. You know RIAA you might not be making such a quality product, ever think of that. They need to get there head out of there asses and realize what is going on. I enjoy borders also because you can listen to music in the store before buying an album. | |
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| | | Re: People still watch The Grammys??? I hear ya! 80% of the stuff that wins at the grammys is stuff I 've never heard of or can't stand | |
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| Time for Artists to create their own channel It would be great if musicians would break away from the major labels.
The best way to thwart ill conceived content protection initiatives is if artist develop their own distribution mechanism that allows them to better connect to fans why bypassing the existing obsolete distribution channel. | |
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| | | Re: Interesting article on music piracy yea, it's called Independent | |
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| | Follow by example I'm so glad we have a leader such as Mr. Michael Greene to show us what to do. Let us all follow by example...
Just as economists changed their views about the economy as business 2 business transactions increased. The music industry changes. What we need is a visionary. A person who sees that things will change. Power has now reversed, the consumer now controls the market and the business needs to adjust accordingly to this.
Just as Canada must take the world price of goods, music companies must follow the demand for digital music created by the Internet born generation. | |
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| | Why dont they go after the cd burner makers Hey they are the real problem right? If we had no companies like sony phillips etc making these burners we could not burn right. If this is soooo illegal how come i can walk into any store, buy blank cds an mp3 player and a computer with a burner on it. Give me a break. They will never never shut down this file sharing. This is an idea the music industry has not thought of so they cant make money on it. Thats why they dont like it. Their technology has not changed with the times. | |
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|  Mick18
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San Jose, CA | Re: Why dont they go after the cd burner makers They cannot do that because the US Supreme court ruled that if a device could be used for legal purposes, it could not be banned if some people would use it for illegal purposes. | |
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Acworth, GA | Let me boggle this down in 1 sentence. !Sentence
You drop cd prices, we will buy the cd's.
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You see, I'm sick of these 'disclipine wannabees' that see everything as bad. Hell why should he care it's not like he has to pay for music, or the employees, or the bands....for the full whoppin' $18 anyways like us 'real workers' have to. | |
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|  danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium
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Urbandale, IA |  Re: Let me boggle this down in 1 sentence.
Question...where are you buying your CDs that they cost you $18 apiece? I just ordered 11 CDs off Barnes and Noble's website for about $145. That works out to approximately $13.50 per CD. I haven't seen any CDs at Best Buy lately that cost that much, either. Now, at Sam Goody (which, interestingly enough, along with Suncoast, Mediaplay, etc. are owned by Best Buy) I've always seen higher prices. I simply choose not to shop there, unless I absolutely cannot find something anywhere else. Their selection, particularly for older music, isn't the best anyway. Most of their newer music is on sale for around $14-$16. In fact, just the other day online, when I was scouring for CDs, I found Paul McCartney's Wingspan 2-disc set for less than $20 at three different places. Luckily, I ended up finding a like-new set at a used CD store for $9. If you're choosy about where you make your purchases, you really will save money.
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