mags2
Agent Provocateur
join:2001-07-19
SoCal
|  Very Sly
So basically, as long as Brilliant buried the presence of this P2P stealth network in Kazaa's TOS, it is A-OK to do what they did...implant an application into everyone's system that may or may not cause system resource issues most likely w/o their knowledge or conscious consent. Let's see a show of hands... Anyone else as happy with this news as the CEO of Brilliant is? You don't mind handing over a few cycles of your pc to process another company's "computing tasks" do you?
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If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?
-T.Jefferson
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iamchas
join:2001-12-06
Antioch, IL | In the article he referred to the word 'opt-in'. Run away! Run away! This doesn't bode well. And I hate it when things don't bode well. |
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pitterpatter
join:2002-01-16
Macungie, PA
| THIS is scary!
"Regular" spyware is bad enough, this sounds just plain old scary - Quote "You hereby grant (Brilliant) the right to access and use the unused computing power and storage space on your computer/s and/or Internet access or bandwidth for the aggregation of content and use in distributed computing," end quote. So they basically can take over my PC and use the CPU cycles AND my hard drive for whatever they deem to be acceptable.
And doing this in cooperation with Doubleclick is even scarier: Quote "Bermeister said the company had been testing the technology along with ad giants DoubleClick as a way to serve ordinary Web ads more quickly" I don' ttrust those folks as far as I can throw them.
This has gotta stop. |
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mags2
Agent Provocateur
join:2001-07-19
SoCal
|  More Info
Here is another more informative blurb over at CDFreaks.com on the matter: »www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php3?ID=3791
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Low Lifes
from what i have seen most of these peer to peer music sharing services are all putting something on your machine, which of course is how they get income. some of these "services" are poorly written and cause computer crashes etc. there was a piece in pc magazine a few issues ago about these "phone home" and "ad popup" programs.
when will people realise that there is no free lunch with these services. lets face it they are probably letting users do illegal stuff anyway so whats a little bit of spyware between friends. |
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cbcalhoun
Premium
join:2000-09-04
Heath, OH
| What about Cydoor?
I always knew that there were more programs built into Kazaa. I can't believe it took this long for people to find out about it, especially the Brilliant Digital Entertainment software, which makes the 3d projector program for playing stuff in the Kazaa interface... They also have another piece of software built in by Cydoor but I’m not real familiar with it and haven't had time to mess with it...
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BridgeTapBob
join:2002-03-26
Indianapolis, IN |  reply to mags2
Re: Very Sly
Ya know...if only they had the courage to run literacy ads....imagine the chaos then.
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| reply to bgraham
Re: Low Lifes
As far as I can tell WinMX is spyware free. You just have to do your homework before going to one of these P2P programs. I think this stuff is old news as I have heard about spyware in Kazaa a long time ago when reading individuals commenting on it. The TOS is probably the same one as I think that's what people were saying about it back then. Same goes for Morpheus.
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to cbcalhoun
Re: What about Cydoor?
i am with you, this info has been around for a while so whats the surprise with kaaza.
i only found out about spyware because i do some computer consulting and a customer of mine where the boss of a small company managed to trash his computer somehow and i spent 3 days getting his data back and rebuilding his hard drive with win 2k. it was rock solid when i left him. well 3 months later he had problems with everything again and i had just read an article about these peer to peer shareware crap programs. plus i noticed he had 7 gig of mp3's. i ran adaware on his machine and he had 50 or so of these spyware progs. i searched for some of them on the internet and was shocked by the size of them and the resources that they used. the problems they cause was well documented, even microsoft knowledge base has some listed as known problems. guess what, i got rid of all of them and it fixed 100% of his problems. |
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mags2
Agent Provocateur
join:2001-07-19
SoCal
| reply to bgraham
Re: Low Lifes
said by bgraham:
lets face it they are probably letting users do illegal stuff anyway...
I take issue with your statement. What is this illegal stuff to which you are referring?
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SeminoleRob
join:2001-12-19
Panama City, FL | Grokster?
Does Grokster have this spyware too? I'm at work and haven't had a chance to go home and check. |
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY | reply to mags2
Re: Low Lifes
isn't there some legal issues with these p2p mp3 file sharing services regarding copyrighted material? |
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beeman65
join:2001-07-23
Mckeesport, PA | reply to SeminoleRob
Kazaa Lite
Is this program still in Kazaa Lite 1.5? I know that Kazaa Lite removed the spyware and ads... |
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mags2
Agent Provocateur
join:2001-07-19
SoCal
|  reply to bgraham
Re: Low Lifes
The only legal issues that exist to my knowledge are that the RIAA & Hollywood would like nothing better than to make all digital content and the uses of any PVRs (personal video recorders) including pc's explicitly under their control so that you & I cannot make copies or record anything we see or hear without first having to fork over more money for the privilege. I'm not aware of anything specifically illegal that people may be committing by sharing files which is what your post alluded to. I was asking because your statement led the reader to conclude that you know something with regard to this matter that everyone else -including myself- apparently does not.
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If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy? -T.Jefferson |
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AdamB
join:2001-01-07
Westerville, OH | reply to SeminoleRob
Re: Grokster?
It has a form of spyware since I checked it out in ad aware but you can download the dummy dll file to get rid of it. But this kind I sure hope not. |
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mags2
Agent Provocateur
join:2001-07-19
SoCal
| reply to SeminoleRob
Good question. I also use Grok and the only spyware that I'm aware of was of the cydoor variety which can be neutered with a dummy .dll file. Unless we find out otherwise, I'm assuming Grok is kosher. Whichever it is, I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of it. There are too many knowledgeable people on DSLR for us to remain collectively blind.
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If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy? -T.Jefferson |
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mags2
Agent Provocateur
join:2001-07-19
SoCal
| reply to BridgeTapBob
Re: Very Sly
said by BridgeTapBob:
Ya know...if only they had the courage to run literacy ads....imagine the chaos then.
If I'm understanding you correctly by literacy ads I'm assuming you mean pc literacy ads? As in if people actually understood the intracacies of their computers then perhaps the widespread ignorance of spyware/trojans/virii would be a thing of the past?
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If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy? -T.Jefferson |
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cbcalhoun
Premium
join:2000-09-04
Heath, OH
|  reply to cbcalhoun
Re: What about Cydoor?
Exactly... This stuff isn't that new... Your downloading their program for free and in return your giving your computer and resources to do whatever they wish with it... Also it isn't like anyone ever reads or can understand the TOS that come along with these programs, so who really knows what they are hiding in their code to run on there computer...
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Silicon Works Inc.
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ | reply to mags2
Re: Grokster?
If you don't want spyware, dont install any P2P file sharing programs. SIMPLE. There have been so many articles on this in the last few months, I can't believe some of you continue to use these programs.... |
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mags2
Agent Provocateur
join:2001-07-19
SoCal
| said by Jmartz:
If you don't want spyware, dont install any P2P file sharing programs. SIMPLE.
Thank you to the department of the obvious for pointing that out. You really ought to volunteer yourself to the government's side for the CIPA case currently being tried. That way you would get another opportunity to stand up in court and smugly say something like "If you don't want any money from the government for your library, then you don't have to install government filters on your internet computers."
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If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy? -T.Jefferson |
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