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Comments on news posted 2002-04-08 17:19:44: Straight off of Sony's smashing success with recent attempts to incorporate copy protection into Celine Dion's latest release (The cd wouldn't play on PC's at all, and even crashed many), BMG has begun shipping demo CD's encoded with a new scheme it .. ..

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CatholicJedi

join:2001-09-28
Mesa, AZ
Bent on destruction

It seems Sony (and their ilk) is bent on destroying themselves and damaging the industry.

Will they ever learn?
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"May you live all the days of your life."


OrigZaphod042
Didn't You Hear? I Come In Six Packs Now
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join:2001-07-22
Round Lake, IL
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Just going to have to record off of digital radio

.....if I am now unable to make a archival backup under fair use, I refuse to purschase another cd. I will do what others do then, steal the tracks from my digital radio, sat or what ever other method I can.

Screw you guys, I'm going home.


Someoneso

@telocity.com
Im not buying any cds with that crap

same as title


SpeedD3mon
Notorious R.I.P
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join:2002-03-31
Cowansville, QC
A page from the book of microsoft

Oh YES the uncrackable protection! Hey Sony maybe you should call Mr.Gates and ask him how long it lasts
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Mara98313

@telocity.com
Same here

I won't buy any cd's with that protection on it


ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
My 2 cents

I refuse to buy a CD with this copy protection CRAP. It violates our RIGHT to make a back up copy. That is my story and I am sticking to it.
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"Death is irrelevant"


ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
·Internet Nebraska

reply to SpeedD3mon
Re: A page from the book of microsoft

The reason there are pirated versions of XP out there is because the Enterprise edition does not require activation. A couple people I go to college with have got their "special rate" copy because of this. Not because the activation scheme didn't work.

Anyway I get your point. People will find a way around it. All this does is hurt the consumers who "play by the rules" all the time with less computer know how.
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"Death is irrelevant"


GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL

reply to CatholicJedi
Re: Bent on destruction

That's just it.

They think that everyone will just go along with their crap, and thus complacency = acceptance = more of this to come.

BTW -- just curious....

Does anyone know if these type of copy protection schemes work on stereo component burners?

K.
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"i want everything to work. i choose iSeries."

ItaniumNebula

join:2001-01-01
Hialeah, FL
POST HERE IF U DONT BUY CDS !!!

F*CK SONY AND LONG LIVE PIRACY !!!! ITS ALL PART OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND EXEPT WHEN UR TOO POOR TO BUY THE SUPPLY


Pyrion
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join:2001-12-01
Poway, CA
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 Big deal.

Any audiophile can get around this stupid setup with nothing more than a regular CD player, some RCA cable, and one of those RCA adapters you can buy for like $1 at Radio Shack. Just record into the Line In as a WAV, encode to MP3, and you're set.
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rds24a
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Springboro, OH
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reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: My 2 cents

I think we need to get together and buy (ugh) 1 copy
of this "copy protected" CD. Then, using existing means,
make a whole bunch of copies and mail them back to Sony
with a giant picture of my big, white a..

At this point, it has nothing to do with file sharing,
it is fair use. I would just like to keep using my
MP3 player using music I buy.
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ItaniumNebula

join:2001-01-01
Hialeah, FL
ahahahahaha

the protection isnt even out and there we have a solution


Doctor Four
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
·AT&T U-Verse

Won't stop copying

Once again a major record label is going out of their
way to curtail fair use rights in the name of preventing
piracy. Their measures won't stop the real pirates who
will record the audio from the CD using the line in on
any sound card, then burning not just one CD or making
mp3s to put on the P2P networks, but rather copying
thousands of CDs to sell on the gray market in places
like street corners and flea markets. It's THAT kind
of piracy that's costing the 5 major labels the bulk
of their profits, and not file sharers. But those dumb***
bozos will never learn, will they.
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"Kayura or Badamon, whichever you are, you should know that I will never give up this battle. By the will of the Ancient, I shall succeed!" - Shuten (Anubis) from the Ronin Warriors.

YearZero
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join:2001-08-28
Copy protection...hell no we won't buy...

First off whose pirating celine dion's new cd? This so called protection will be cracked in the first three hours after its released.


nanofever
Liberal Democrats, You Know We're Right

join:2001-08-19
Modesto, CA


reply to Doctor Four
Re: Won't stop copying

Exactly Shuten, this screws the casual user who is just getting into the mp3/burning/ripping scene. I have my 20 doller cd player, audio cord, and Brand Spanking New soundcard for a reason. Im sticking it to Sony everyway I can just as soon as a descent cd comes out with copy protection.

I wont put Crap pop on my system

Now excuse me I have to get back to KazaaLite my mp3's are done Dling
[text was edited by author 2002-04-08 18:35:09]


Zar
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join:2001-08-04
Platte City, MO

reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: A page from the book of microsoft

said by ArchAngel21x:
The reason there are pirated versions of XP out there is because the Enterprise edition does not require activation.

Nope. I used a reg edit and step by step setup from a article in the Register about how week WinXPs protection was. Worked just fine on the Winxp pro.

But after about 6 months of having it on my system I went out and got WinXP Pro anyway. I like to use and see how some software works before I spend money. I wanted to see if WinXP would work with the programs I use before I fully converted..

As far as the CD copy protection goes it will only degrade the quality of the music, but it will NOT stop the copying. What would stop the copying would be a fair price for the CD, Not the $15 $20 that they charge now. I thought that the price would drop since the price of the CD was much less than vinal..but the greed of the music companies keeps the price up...

The stars want the millions, and so do the record companies. Its just greed plain and simple
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Don't knock on deaths door, ring the bell and run, he hates that.


yock
TFTC
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join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH
 Who wants to buy me a stereo?

I don't own a stereo, my computer is my stereo. Any band that uses a non-pc copy protection scheme can forget it. It's BS and regressive.


SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: My 2 cents

Just recently one of my favorite CD's found it's way on the floor nudged between some books. I push the books out of the way (not knowing my fave CD is set in an awkward position) and SNAP. My CD shatters into dozens of shards. It's a good thing I made mp3's of the best tracks before that happened. Though I might still look for the CD in a used music store since I didn't back up the entire thing. Just goes to show you there are real instances where there is complete legitimacy in fair use copies.
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When do I get my freakin' third star?!?!?


St0ney

join:2001-02-25
uranus
HELLL NOOOO

Never bought a CD in my life and i NEver will


clyde_
It's A Chrysalis, Not A Cocoon
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join:2001-05-02
Easley, SC

reply to Pyrion
Re: Big deal.

Of course. Physical protection of the media means nothing because you can still capture the end product, sound. Nothing short of eradicating all sound recording devices and methods in the world is going to stop this. However the music industry can't comprehend this and insists on creating useless protection schemes that are now interfering with established industry standards. You're right, this will do nothing to stop people with the know how to get around it and only hurt the unknowledgeable consumers.
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