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Draw Me A "Cold One"
Premium,ExMod 2002-04
join:2000-11-03
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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| Play it again, Sam... I posted this in another thread last week, but think it's worth repeating. It seems that the ones in the music industry who complain the most are the most popular, and the richest. Most of them already have more money than they could spend in a lifetime.
Most importantly, though, they seem to have forgotten where their money came from. It was those of us who buy $15 CDs, attend their $150 p/seat concerts, and download some "freebies".
Hell, I can't afford to go out and pay $15 for every CD that may have one or two songs on it I enjoy so, yes, I do download some "freebies".
These idiots completely overlook the point that they're rich because of people like us. 95% of my music collection consists of legitimate CDs. But these "clowns" aren't satisfied with 95%; they want it all.
Now, when's the last time you heard of the members of Metallica, Celline Dion, or any other of these celebrities actually going out of their way to give anything back to the community? Sure, a stupid little "charitable" event to get more publicity for themselves, but when do they ever say "Thanks for making me a millionaire", and mean it?
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Pyrion
Liquid Metal Nanomorph
join:2001-12-01
Poway, CA
clubs: | Re: Play it again, Sam... I believe one of the members of Metallica said something to the point of "if it wasn't for all the bootleggers that got us known, we'd never be here".
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TheEternalTroll
join:2000-12-01
Knoxville, TN
| Very true. Now there complaining. Lars, what a tool. check out www.campchaos.com . They have some flash movies that shows lars as the whiney greedy little monkey he is.
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Pirate515
Premium
join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY
|  Re: Play it again, Sam...
said by TheEternalTroll:
check out www.campchaos.com.
That site has the best "Napster Bad" section I have ever seen. The one where James Hetfield is playing "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" is my absolute favorite...
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roamer1
sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
clubs:
| It isn't so much the artists (there have been the notable exceptions of Metallica/Lars, Dr. Dre, etc.; some, most notably Rage Against The Machine and numerous smaller bands, have actually fought labels' actions) that are whining, it's almost exclusively the labels (and their evil, evil mouthpiece the RIAA) who don't want to give up their death grip on the music "industry".
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Assault
join:2001-12-14
Garland, TX | Paying for cd's? | |
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data riker
join:2002-02-12
New Orleans, LA |  just use clone cd
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nanofever
Liberal Democrats, You Know We're Right
join:2001-08-19
Modesto, CA
| SO sad Mrs.Dion
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: SO sad Mrs.Dion It not really Celine making those decisions. It's her record label. Celine Dion is just a performer. As far as I can tell she doesn't write her own music; just sings the stuff given to her. I don't she has any say whatsoever on how her music will be distributed.
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| SpeedJunky
join:2001-08-14
Glen Cove, NY
| Who in God's green Earth would buy or download Celine Dione's shitty music? She sucks and she's played out like her 70 year old husband... Frankly anyone who downloads her shit is merely wasting perfectly good bandwidth!!!
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INHCNN
join:2001-12-15
Lansing, MI
| Money... The real irony here is that Sony has obviously invested a substantial amount of cash in this effort so that they might earn more through gained CD sales...
All to be defeated the second it comes out mainstream.
What a joke. How about cutting your losses and dropping the price of CD's guys. Your'e fixing the wrong problem. Period.
-T
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quik3
Boris
join:2001-11-04
Brooklyn, NY | what the? 18 mins of music for 18 bucks? maybe if u buy the rap cds.. get britney cd, 12 tracks, at most 45 mins of music for 18 bucks
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| Sultan0
join:2001-12-01
Omaha, NE | Re: what the? If you can find anything you can call music on a britney cd your ahead of the game;) | |
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gummi$
join:2002-01-18
Richmond, VA
| Re: Linux? I myself don't know a thing about Linux, but a fellow poster here does and mentioned this in another forum on the "Celine" issue:
"Wouldn't it be possible to DiskDump the cd and extract the data, or rebuild the session info with an fs debugger?
not exactly my area of experience, but generally, the unix's are very good at dealing with bitchy data."
-so says odnc
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Premium
join:2001-11-22
clubs: | Re: Linux? I know, I read that thread... | |
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CatholicJedi
join:2001-09-28
Mesa, AZ
| Sony will wish they had never thought of this When things are all said and done (for them, anyway), Sony will wish they had never thought of copy-protected CDs or anything of the sort.
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Penguins
Have You Played Atari Today?
join:2001-12-01
Cleveland, OH | The funniest thing is...
They should take there CTO out behind the shed for a good beating for spending even a cent on this. | |
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bronxbomber8
join:2000-07-25
Eustis, FL | Re: The funniest thing is... | |
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fuzydice
join:2000-12-18
Sunnyvale, CA
| A question, please.
-fuzy | |
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AR
Premium,ExMod 2001-04
join:2000-09-21
Toronto, ON | Re: A question, please. Well, they probably figure that people who buy CDs won't complain since they don't have much choice.. that this will cause a little furore in the initial stages and then die out.
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PToN
join:2001-10-04
Houston, TX
| we have ppl inside as many people said this is impossible , lets say that they win on the copy protection and lets SAY that it is imposible to make a copy or a ripp WELL ON THAT case we still win. YEAH we do , its the same with mIRC and all the movies they have , there is people inside that would give away the music STORED on HDD to some1 and then every1 else would have a copy  , so SONY STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY ON THAT BS | |
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PToN
join:2001-10-04
Houston, TX
| hahahaha this may be posted twice if you see other post it was mine but i forgtot to log in.
the thing is that some people have people inside and thats where everything starts. I dont know but i am sure that most of you know mIRC well ther you can find movies that will start next week or SOME MOVIES THAT WILL ON THE THEATER NEXT MONTH YEP!!!. How do you think they get those movies ???well they people inside that give the movie away or sometimes that person charges a fee you know
same thing happens with the music on mIRC i saw and i have the new korn album coming on july i think . HOW IS THAT ? well they stored music on HDD or CD and some1 inside ripped and now every1 has it
SO SONY STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY AND THAT BS THAT WONT WORK | |
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wolfvgang
@swbell.ne
| Sony = Stupid Don't these idiots know that Mp3 is the wave of the future? I just ripped my HUGE CD collection onto my hard drive, as my computer is my entertainment center. I'll never buy one of these "protected" disks if I can't even listen to it whenever I want! What a bunch of idiots!
Who listens to Celine Dipsh** anyway...I just hope this lunacy doesn't spread...because they're too stupid to find a good business model! | |
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godzilla525
join:2001-12-28
New Castle, PA
| There will always be a way...
That's two protection schemes circumvented so far. 
For any other methods I will just go out and buy an Extigy and an optical cable and plug it directly into the back of my CD jukebox. **Gives RIAA the finger...** | |
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ
|  It's ALL UP!
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e_dub
franknbeans
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-12
kickin ass
| CD player to PC recording via fiber connection I have an optical fiber input/output on my pc. All you have to do is record a cd from your stereo cd player (with optical out) onto your pc. Then convert the tracks into MP3/Wave or whatever your liking. It's not crystal clear cd quality, but it sound damn good. I tried it with my neighbor's Celine Dion cd and it work fine. You can also record through your RCA connections from your stereo cd player onto your PC, but the optical sounds better. | |
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homebrewer5
join:2001-01-23
Lowell, MA
| Stop!! THIEVES!!!!
Thanks alot you bunch of thieves!
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MexiCubAZ
join:2000-06-09
Phoenix, AZ
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| Re: Stop!! THIEVES!!!! I believe most of the people who posted here.. do go out and buy the cd's ... I have downloaded and shared.. do I continue to share no.. but I do enjoy having my music cd's on my HD to listen to them in any way I wish.
Now you will not find me making copies of cd's for sale.. or even for friends.. they are for my personal use. Hell I burn mp3 cdroms as I have a legal mp3 cdplayer.. and most stand alone dvd players(excluding sony) also play mp3 discs.
Also what the music industry wants for digital music is just stupid... lock that particular mp3file to my PC or mp3 player.. not to be played on anything else.. come on.
This sounds like ebooks.. the MS Reader can only be installed on 3 devices max.. and the book is locked to that particular key or whatever they are using.
Right now I can grab my CD's take them anywhere and play them.. if they have their way it will be like the Circuit City's DIVX dvd player.. where the disc would play for a day or two then die until you paid another fee to replay the disc ... and the disc was locked for that viewing on that particular dvd player.. do we wish the same for our audio cd's be it dvd-audio... mp3 or whatever the future holds.
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join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
| Re: Stop!! THIEVES!!!! said by MexiCubNJ:
Right now I can grab my CD's take them anywhere and play them.. if they have their way it will be like the Circuit City's DIVX dvd player.. where the disc would play for a day or two then die until you paid another fee to replay the disc ... and the disc was locked for that viewing on that particular dvd player.. do we wish the same for our audio cd's be it dvd-audio... mp3 or whatever the future holds.
Thankfully, DIVX flopped big time. I hope it stays dead. | |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
| homebrewer...
Unfortunately you are making a very rash generalization regarding all that post here.
I burn CDs that are compilations of my existing collection. An activity that at this present time is still legal in the US. Frankly if this becomes impossible on a PC then perhaps I'll just support Philips and pick up a stereo component burner.
I don't subscribe to any of the P2P services myself -- but I am more likely to go over to the local used reseller than I am to goto the "new" retailer and see if perhaps someone has sold back a copy in good condition.
So, I would ask that you reconsider your future rants since I personally take offense to your stereotyping.
K.
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homebrewer5
join:2001-01-23
Lowell, MA
| Re: Stop!! THIEVES!!!! said by GlobalMind:
homebrewer...
Unfortunately you are making a very rash generalization regarding all that post here.
So, I would ask that you reconsider your future rants since I personally take offense to your stereotyping.
K.
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Really?
Take a good read of the posts and tell me if I am generalizing?
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
| Re: Stop!! THIEVES!!!! said by homebrewer:
Really?
Take a good read of the posts and tell me if I am generalizing?
There are quite a number of folks who have MP3d their own collection to use on their own players, those who just want backups of their CDs for their car etc.
And, yes there are those who are file sharing.
However, your comments lead to indicate that you believe everyone posting here is stealing music, which is NOT the case, i.e. generalizing.
K.
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as soon as napster and scour exchange shut down other programs took their place. it will be the same with sonys so called cd copy protection. by the way, i dont consider backing up my purchased audio cds unethical or immoral. RIAA, i will continue to balk at paying $20 for a music cd so get used to it 