 | | aol blocks ports I dont know if they are still doing it, but aol blocked all ports of non-aol programs. Such as icq, Internet explorer, and yahoo chat. When i called aol about this, the person cliamed they do not block ports, but i could not tracert or ping past thier proxy server. So, I disconnected aol and will never go back. I dont need and ISP telling me which programs i can and can not run. | |
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| | | | Re: aol blocks ports With someone using AOL, I have to say your statement is more than just a remote possibility.  | |
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| | | | | Re: aol blocks ports It was not the machine. I made straight A's in my microsoft classes and passed my cisco class with a C. Since I work for an ISP I have to troubleshoot WAN LAN connections all day long. | |
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| | | | | | Re: aol blocks ports Really? I'm not trying to make you look dumb or anything, but AOL uses Internet explorer as it's browser, and ICQ is OWNED by AOL.
What you can do in a microsoft or cisco course really doesn't impress anyone here, especially when you're using AOL.
Yeah, they suck, but they're not blocking their own products. | |
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| | | | | | i hate to break it to ya honey, but microsoft classes mean dick in the real world for the most part. what cisco class did you take and why did you only get a C? i know more idiots with MCSE's than i'd like to think about. sad part is they're getting paid 3x what the people who really do the work get paid (many of whom either don't have a computer degree or dropped out).
not to mention the fact that anyone with any real technical knowledge wouldn't touch an AOL connection with a 10 ft pole, much less sign up for one. | |
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You seem pretty cool, email me at the addy on my previous post if you feel like it !
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| | | | | | .oO Just a thought Oo.
-Did you ever think to toggle the option in AOL's config that you have to toggle to use your connection with other applications ?
-In order to use netscape, some of my associates have had to toggle this AOL option. (back before they knew any better, they started with AOL) Sorry, I use a real ISP not a web page provider, so I am unfamiliar with their option menus, otherwise I would offer the location of the switch.
-I must say I have worked with some real rock heads that held MCSE certs. lol @ how truely worthless they really are.
-P.S. If you work at an ISP then why the hell were you using AOL? Is it possibly becasue you were a lot less knowledgeable then ? This would in-validate your defense that "I work for an ISP troubleshooting WAN / LAN connetions all day". You were not at that knowledge level when you used AOL. Or when you un-justly tried to assult them based on your own ignorant mistake. Don't get me wrong, AOL sucks for manr reasons like cost and ads and targeted search results.
-cTech1
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| | | If somehow you told AOL that it could be the primary ISP, then yeah, it blocks almost everything else. Turn that off, and it should work ok. | |
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| | | yessire this is true. aol does block ports, but only when parental controls are enabled. anything other then general (18+) access blocks all ports outside aol.. nothing works except the aol program....
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| | | Isnt it Ironic that AOL blocks access to their own product (ICQ)? Once again the monkeys in aol corp VA...are tinkering with their Meth lab.
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| I Never Could Understand AOL AOL never had much to offer anyone in my opinion. Maybe many years ago pre internet it gave road warriors a way of getting their email almost anywhere in the world.
The only record breaking thing AOL ever did was make about a zillion cd's which must have cost them a fortune. I read somewhere that they spend about 6 months customer revenue getting each customer, which means that if you dumped them after 4 or 5 months they would loose money.
They ignored broadband for years thinking that their customers, who were supposedly happy with their crippled internet, would not notice that dial up is terrible.
I am sure as people get more web savvy and broadband becomes more available the AOL part of the company is going to become a smaller and smaller. | |
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| | | Re: I Never Could Understand AOL said by bgraham:
The only record breaking thing AOL ever did was make about a zillion cd's which must have cost them a fortune. I read somewhere that they spend about 6 months customer revenue getting each customer, which means that if you dumped them after 4 or 5 months they would loose money.
Huh?
Like it or not AOL brought the Internet to the masses. They helped shape the so-called new economy.
You think broadband is easy? That AOL is the only provider that rolled-out a half baked product with shoddy service?
AOL isn't for everyone. But for Jon and Jane Doe who just want something quick and easy, it's perfect. | |
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The only record breaking thing AOL ever did was make about a zillion cd's which must have cost them a fortune
ROFL!...yeah, I remember getting them in a box of Lucky Charms.
AOL is for newbies or the non techno-file. Once a newbie becomes somewhat technically savvy, they dump AOL for bigger & better things. AOL has become a stagnent, un-idividualized service.
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| | | How can you say they ignored broadband?? They bought the 2nd largest cable company. What else can they do but that. They probably have the 2nd most broadband customers(Time Warner Cable customers) of any company in America. AOL is a dial-up with nationwide availabilty(as it is relatively easy to do that). There is no way to provide broadband access nationwide profitably in the current state of the telecom and cable industries. The only way this could be done is by running on the back of a DSL and cable company which is not profitable. No company can own nationwide broadband infrastructure in todays climate. Yes AOL will lose all of their customers outside Time Warner cities in the long-run, however there wasn't really anything they could've done about it. | |
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| | | | Re: I Never Could Understand AOL sure they merged with the 2nd largest cable company . . . 2 yrs after other ISPs began offering broadband to their customers. i'd say they did some ignoring. | |
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| | | | | Re: I Never Could Understand AOL Fine, but what ignoring are they doing now??? 2 years ago couldn't be that late to the party. Almost nobody could get broadband of any kind in my top 10% of the wealthiest INNER INNER suburb in 2000. What did you expect them to do? What has any other non-infrastructure ISP done? Earthlink has a lot of DSL users who run on the backs of the RBOCs, but they almost surely lose money on all of them. | |
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| | | | | | Re: I Never Could Understand AOL waiting 2 yrs to jump on a market in a technical industry is a VERY long time. thats enough time to let any other company kick your ass completely in a market.
dsl cost just as much in 2000 as it does now ($50), so saying only the rich people could afford it then is so very untrue. the only difference in price between then and now is install prices - many ISPs now have promotions which give discounted or free installs. | |
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| | | | | Ok, let me ask you a question: name me an ISP that HASN'T ignored broadband. Earthlink? MSN? Who? All I know is that none of these companies makes nearly as much money off of broadband as AOL-Time Warner, if they actually turn a profit at all. | |
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| | | Hey graham, for every million cd's manufactured it cost aol 5 cents each. They are all manufactured overseas. 30 million cd's is only 1.5 million dollars. According to recent numbers, it takes 5 cd's to get a consumer to try aol.
So...the 30 million members cost them roughly 8 million dollars in AOL CD production. And this assuming the CD's are what drove aol's explosion. This is not the case. Wow, that is a pun "Not The Case". It was a mere drop in the bucket.
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join:2000-10-09
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| Retarded test monkey. I. C. Well if I knew who posted that crack I might be able to excuse it out of knowledge of the person. But since I don't I would say its a little over the top. AOL has been stupid for years, but they had stupid people back then. Its the people who have changed more than the company.
I mean, from the first day YOU left AOL, didn't you know their offering was pretty shallow and their clock was ticking???
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 airhockeyGot Airhockey?Premium
join:2001-03-01
San Jose, CA | hey now >Most observers have been saying for months that the AOL >ship appears to be piloted by a retarded test monkey on >barbituates and not guided by any form of business savvy >rationale.
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join:2002-01-30
NYC | I love reading about AOL's troubles. Call me sick, call me angry, call me what you will. I just love reading about AOL having problems. I unfortunately have AOL(only choice for dsl other than directly from verizon and will be going to OOL as soon as available) and simply hate it.
One thing that does disturb me though is that people always question someones tech knowledge simply because they are on AOL. Its tech discrimination if you ask me. Please, its bad enough that some of us really have no other choice, we really dont need to hear how "stupid" we are for having AOL. If you dont know why we have it then dont put us down.
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|  ArchAngel21xWaiting For iPhone 5Premium
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| Re: I love reading about AOL's troubles. Ok, if you chose AOL for broad band because it is the only choice then we will feel your pain. If you have other options and you still choose AOL then the members if DSLR will tar and feather you
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| | WildGodGod Is DeadPremium
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NYC | Re: I love reading about AOL's troubles. trust me i cant wait to leave aol. and i know a cple of ppl on dslr that have no choice either. just bothers me to read people putting down other people becuase they are on aol. i mean lets face it for your average person aol is nice and easy.
i already bought my motorola surfboard sb4100 and have it all set up to cable. Just waiting for OOL to finally wire my neighborhood so it can sync. It sucks just watching it blink and blink and blink 
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| | | ArchAngel21xWaiting For iPhone 5Premium
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Lincoln, NE | Re: I love reading about AOL's troubles. In all fairness, if AOL broad band used stable software, and was reliable service, I would recommend it some people I know, like my mom, because it does set up the internet so it's easy to use.
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| i also love to hear how bad AOHELL is doing.. it makes my day..but i can understand where you are coming from...i have earthlink DSL here in houston Tx and it rocks but i wish i still lived in NyC cuz OoL looks phat and for the price 10megs down/and 1 meg up is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo worth it...lets just hope for y'all that have or getting it thay dont do a price cap..
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| | | | | | Re: I love reading about AOL's troubles. I don't mind you bashing on aol, but how come you have to say AOHell every single time? You sound like a retarded 11 year old. I bet you think that's really clever and funny. | |
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Delta, BC | Re: I love reading about AOL's troubles. It is funny. Everyone here does it. I've seen hundreds of people say AOHELL. And frankly, I don't think it's that far from the truth
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I don't mind you bashing on aol, but how come you have to say AOHell every single time? You sound like a retarded 11 year old. I bet you think that's really clever and funny.
It's no different than people saying Microcrap (Microsoft), Netscrape (Netscape), Allhell (Alltel), or Road Notrunning (Road Runner). Just harmless humor.
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| | | | | | | | Re: I love reading about AOL's troubles. AoHell is also one of the many different "progz" that scripters liked to use.. punters, bombers, etc, that one AOL user could assault another with. That was fun. | |
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| | | anyone with any technical knowledge would know that AOL isn't their only choice. there are a TON of ISPs out there, and many with more rural access than AOL if that's the issue. AOL is not really an ISP, they provide software which is an interface to a connection they don't provide, but pay someone else to.
if your only broadband choice is AOL cable, you're actually wrong . . . since earthlink was in business w/ time warner before the time warner/aol merge, they have a "right of first refusal" when time warner rolls out service somewhere (meaning earthlink gets first bid on it over aol). they snatch it up. *then* aol can roll out service in the same area. so, everywhere aol/time warner cable internet is, there's earthlink, just a step ahead. | |
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| | WildGodGod Is DeadPremium
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| Re: I love reading about AOL's troubles. i dont have aol cable, i have aol dsl(as it clearly says in my post). when i say i have no other choice its because verizon is the actual dsl carrier in my area and verizon itself sucks. i started with aol many years ago (like almost everyone i know) and havent switched since OOL was supposed to be in my neighborhood over a year ago. i see no reason to get another isp in the meantime since ill only have to cancel them as well. your talking about time/warner which is not my cable provider(thank god cablevision is, cple blocks away ppl dont have OOL as a choice only roadrunner).
but this is exactly what i mean, why start out with "anyone with any technical knowledge would know that AOL isn't their only choice" dont you think i have investigated this? anyone with any tech knowledge would know that if OOL services my neighborhood than obviously time warner cant.
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| |  amdazPremium
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San Francisco, CA | pipe it down girlie.
why dont you register first! | |
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| | |  AladrinCode Junkie
join:2001-01-25
Orlando, FL | Re: I love reading about AOL's troubles. Actually, she's right about the whole "so, everywhere aol/time warner cable internet is, there's earthlink, just a step ahead." thing. | |
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| | | You want even more funny stuff? Go to www.observers.net.
Bunch of ex-community leaders that interview ex-employees and educate the newbie many to the errs of the company. Great dish and the interviews are great.
The article about how AOL moved their Tech Live support to the Phillipines was great. Tell me a better place to work than one where the employer picks me up in my village , gives me a ride in the old govt jeeps left behind, gives me 2 meals a day in the AOL Cafeteria, and pays me a cool dollar a day. Life is grand at the old Clark AirForce Base.
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Staten Island, NY |  hehhehe
AOL ship appears to be piloted by a retarded test monkey on barbituates LMAO...so true...so true.
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| | I tell you the right strategy: sell the AOL unit Right now the AOL unit is clearly dragging down the stock. Buying Time Warner was an awesome move. AOL would be a $5 stock at best without it. Instead they cashed in while their stock was worth lots of money. Now AOL is being valued as a negative. It seems to me it's taking value from the company the way people are bashing it so much. If they spin it off, the analysts would lose the reason to bash it. Then AOL would report their earnings as a separate entity. It would force the market to give them a real valuation. If Case sells the AOL unit it would be like he traded a pure-play ISP(worthless) for a huge media giant and walked away with some cash to boot(the cash he gets from the AOL spinoff). If you people think that this guy is an idiot, you are clueless. | |
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| Re: I tell you the right strategy: sell the AOL unit Have you worked for AOL? The AOL Unit is not the side of the company losing money. The 300 million dollar movies being produced that come back with 50 million in profit are vein tappers. Not to mention actors who command 10,15,20 million for each movie.
Time Warner may have been the key to AOL's cable business intentions, but it came with a price. AOL posted profits every quarter when I worked there between 97 to 2000. Their footprint on the dialup pop side is dominant. It came down to eating TW's losses in order to obtain one of the largest cable networks. Sell off the AOL unit? Maybe so, but it would be much smarter decision for them to sell off all of their movie production companies (Including Warner Bros.). Some may say that is ludicrous....but NOT even blockbuster movies like "The MAtrix" & "Lord of The Rings" and the sequels will post a profit for AOL.
Im not sure where you get the data supporting your argument to sell off the AOL unit. The Time Warner departments need to be cut and streamlined.
Ted Turner made sure none of his spawns would be touched or spun off.
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| | AOL whats to kill itself! What kind of company can justify paying $15 a month for their email. Yes, they have more than email, but anything else they have is stupid and useless or available for free somewhere else. I am talking about the bring your own access plan that they give. They basically turned all their customers away, beacause who is going to pay $40-60 for an internet connection and another $15 for email. | |
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 Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
join:2003-01-31
Fullerton, CA | AOL CDs-What can you do with them? 1. Drink Coaster
2. Skeet
3. Scarecrow Replacement
4. Frisbee Replacement
5. Trash/Crash your computer
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|  xaanderPremium
join:2002-11-30
Dallas, TX | Re: AOL CDs-What can you do with them? I just finished doing the outside Christmas light thing, and wanted some glowing ornaments to hang from the large pine in my front yard. All the stores wanted $7 to $10 for one or two plastic balls or stars that glow if you run another 100 feet of cord to plug them in.
On my way home, I noticed my local Comp USA, and had a brainstorm. I went in, then walked out with about 50 free AOL CDs.
They are hanging on my tree right now, and boy do they shine! (thanks to a small spotlight at night, and the sun during the day).
Please don't tell AOL. They might realize there is value in their promo CDs and start charging for them.
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| | Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
join:2003-01-31
Fullerton, CA | Re: AOL CDs-What can you do with them? Yeah, Baby, YEAH!
But that can contribute to AOL raising their pricing.
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