Yowzaaah
Ours Go To Eleven
join:2000-12-14
DamnFlat, OH
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| What's with the Dems?
Is it just me or does anyone else think its hilarious to see Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden whoring themselves to the only "big business" that donates more to Dems? Whatever happened to the interests of the common man? hypocrites.
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL |  Do as I say, not as I do!
How ironic, to see a copyright bill from the same person that lost a bid in the presidential primaries in the 80's because he plagiarized a speech given in the British parliament. |
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Siljanus
join:2000-12-13
Chevy Chase, MD |  reply to Yowzaaah
Re: What's with the Dems?
Times are tough for the Dems and they need to fill their election coffers for the upcoming congressional elections. |
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Siljanus
join:2000-12-13
Chevy Chase, MD
| Call me naive, but...
"American innovation and creativity need to be protected by our government, just like our personal property, our homes and (our) streets need protection,"
When listening to mainstream radio or catching a video on MTV (when they play videos), terms like "innovation" and "creativity" are the furthest thing from my mind. Never understood why the gov feels the need to protect mediocrity. |
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Turdicus Sr
Premium
join:2002-03-08
Huntsville, AL
| Arrrrrrr
Every time I hear the term "pirates" I just think about guys with a peg leg and eye patch sitting at a computer saying, "AAAARRRRR give me your software & MP3's mate or ye shall be forced to walk the plank. AARRRR." With that said and out of the way, "American innovation and creativity need to be protected by our government, just like our personal property, our homes and (our) streets need protection," said Senator Biden. I agree with the part about the homes and streets, but I don't agree with them on the government needing to protect innovation. Most of the bills being proposed end up hurting the rest of the economy and only helping the people that produce the product.
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Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
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join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
 ·Cox HSI
| said by KZfra80:
Most of the bills being proposed end up hurting the rest of the economy and only helping the people that produce the product.
If you could call it Product.I call it crap!!!!Down with the bubble gum Music  |
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jj nobody
join:2000-08-31
Lakeland, FL
| innovatrion? Creativity?
"American innovation and creativity need to be protected by our government, just like our personal property, our homes and (our) streets need protection,"
Simply stated, there hasn't been any innovation or creativity in music for 10 years... look at all the regurgitated garbage that keeps coming back. Look at all the sequels and comic book spinoffs in movies. No innovation or creativity. Thanks to that and thanks to most people out there waking up to the wool that's being pulled over their eyes, p2p is thriving and will continue to thrive - one way or another. |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI | reply to Siljanus
Re: Call me naive, but...
The don't protect mediocrity, they protect wealth. |
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jj nobody
join:2000-08-31
Lakeland, FL
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Re: Arrrrrrr
If you could call it Product.I call it crap!!!!Down with the bubble gum Music
As long as there are people that think mtv is the only source of music or that the only way to get and enjoy music is to pay 20 bucks for it, there will be bubble-gum music. |
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Paralytic
Everything Hurts.
join:2001-11-12
Seattle, WA
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| This is getting downright Orwellian
They failed to legislate their cash driven "morality," so now they're asking for special protection under law for the RIAA and MPAA. This is sounding more and more like a lost chapter of Animal Farm where not only are some animals more equal than others, but their excremental product is held sacred and forced upon the rest at absurd costs.
"American innovation and creativity" need to be protected from our government, which has been trying to sell our rights to the highest bidder for years. Progress will come from lifting restrictions, not adding more. Any elected representative that fails to grasp this should pull up his pants and go sell it on a streetcorner.
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WildGod
God Is Dead
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join:2002-01-30
NYC
| Im glad there are no important issues to legislate
Hmmmmm arent there more important issues to be debating? I guess the war on terrorism has been won, we have solved our poverty issues, we have won the ridiculous war on drugs and so on and so on.
This is what the Senate is gonna waste it's time on? Well the democrats have always been in bed with hollywood and the media businesses. It's kinda funny when you think about it, Republicans are supposed to be for big business and the Democrats are supposed to be for the individual. Hmmmm I guess $$$$ will always get you a senators ear.
You know I could understand if this "piracy" was making companies bankrupt but all we are talking about is companies who claim they are losing billions of dollars.
The recording industry sales were down only 5% in 2001, for everything that happened in 2001(not too mention the lack of any good releases, other than TOOL in my opinion, which I bought TY)i would say being down only 5% is actually pretty good.
Perhaps these CEO's and top execs could give up a tiny portion of their salaries, perks, stock options and golden parachutes if they are so concerned about stockholders and the artists on their labels.
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Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
Premium
join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
·Cox HSI
| reply to jj nobody
Re: Arrrrrrr
said by jj nobody:
As long as there are people that think mtv is the only source of music or that the only way to get and enjoy music is to pay 20 bucks for it, there will be bubble-gum music.
Yea i know its sad  Its like they put a blind fold on the people. |
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jj nobody
join:2000-08-31
Lakeland, FL
| Yea i know its sad Its like they put a blind fold on the people.
The RIAA and even the MPAA knows that most people will spend the 20 bucks for the cd, or the 7 bucks for the movie. There are still tons of people on dial-up and those people don't want to sit for a couple hours downloading the album when they can go to the store and pay for it... those are the people that generally feel ripped off when they listen to the album in it's entirity and find out that the song that they play on the radio 30 times a day is the only good song on the radio. In the late 80's, that's exactly what I got sick of. Buying a tape that was 12 bucks for one song that I was bored of in a week. It's really shame that history constantly repeats itself in the record and movie industry but that's how they make their money and that's how they thrive. |
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jj nobody
join:2000-08-31
Lakeland, FL
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Re: Im glad there are no important issues to legislate
Hmmmmm arent there more important issues to be debating? I guess the war on terrorism has been won,
According to most politicans enacting (or trying to) laws through congress, the war on terrorism is on our own ground. Remember an article here a couple months ago that stated that piracy is a form of terrorism? I know that article went overboard but in a way, it speaks the truth.
The recording industry sales were down only 5% in 2001, for everything that happened in 2001(not too mention the lack of any good releases, other than TOOL in my opinion, which I bought TY)i would say being down only 5% is actually pretty good
being down 5 percent is good, as you stated, for a company that constantly releases a terrible product. |
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oOOOo
join:2001-12-10
| let him know how y'all feel ...
senator@biden.senate.gov
ofc, prolly a regular person actually scans the stuff (and removes anything that might cause thought, guilt, or responsibility) so make it funny enough to be repeated verbally around his office anyway.
[text was edited by author 2002-05-02 13:28:58] |
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martissimo
join:2001-12-01
Las Vegas, NV
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| hmmm
Every time there is an article about this stuff somebody points out, the software industry has been doing just fine and they have to deal with piracy too.
Then, they propose a bill that would give digital movies and music the same anti-counterfeiting protection under the law that software has.
doesn't that at least seem fair?
I'm not so sure of the scope of the other part that deals with copying holograms etc... but off the top of my head that seems like something that would affect mainly large scale (for profit) people, you know like somebody who would try to sell faked copies of Windows with a bogus hologram on it. I would have to see this part broken down better (this article is a little light on hard info), but if that's the other parts goal i would have no problem with that either. |
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sharkbyte0
join:2000-09-07
Lansdale, PA
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Re: Im glad there are no important issues to legislate
said by wildxgod:
Hmmmmm arent there more important issues to be debating? I guess the war on terrorism has been won, we have solved our poverty issues, we have won the ridiculous war on drugs and so on and so on.
Well, I guess congress is makeing sure that during these though times that these old corporate dinosaurs, big business, lobbying agencies, lawyers keep making their money. Shudder to think they might lose a digit on their 6 to 11 figure salarys & profits.
Regards
Shark...
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Yowzaaah
Ours Go To Eleven
join:2000-12-14
DamnFlat, OH
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| reply to martissimo
Re: hmmm
The problem is that this industry seems to be cobbling together a whole series of laws that when viewed individually don't seem SO bad, but when viewed in totality will give them exactly what they want. Which is TOTAL control over the media and how it is sold, played, distributed and accessed, including forcing the public to pay several times for the same crap in different format; this will be coupled with the severe criminalization of any distribution or format modification that doesn't involve them and the willing participation and enforcement of this draconian monopoly by the US gov't.
I'd say the media industry has a well organized plan here and it is to use the courts and congress to set the battle field how they want it and then use the gov't as their troops to go crack skulls. It looks like they are most of the way there from what I've seen so far.
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jj nobody
join:2000-08-31
Lakeland, FL
| reply to WildGod
Re: Im glad there are no important issues to legislate
Perhaps these CEO's and top execs could give up a tiny portion of their salaries, perks, stock options and golden parachutes if they are so concerned about stockholders and the artists on their labels
Definately don't hold your breath on that one. |
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stet
Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
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Re: Arrrrrrr
Actually promoting the purchase of media instead of pirating it helps the economy, it doesn't hurt it. And, what's wrong with helping the people that produce the product (that you seem to enjoy)? If they don't get money for their product, why should they continue making it? If they don't make it, you won't have it.
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