sadowski
I Am My Own Doppelganger
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-14
Buffalo, NY
clubs:
| Uh Oh!
I don't know that the $29 plan is all that great and will bring in new customers. The 5GB data transfer on the standard plan is awfully close to what I use. I'd hate to think I'd have to start curbing my usage if VZ does that with those amounts here, particularly at $8 per extra GB used. 
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In this world of sin and sorrow, there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. -- H.L. Mencken |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| I dunno, I think...
Their 3000/640 for $44.91/month (don't forget the CDN-USD conversion) with a 10G/10G cap is still a pretty nice deal compared to what we get here, though it'd be nicer if the D/L was proportional with the speed cap - something like 30G/10G. What's the use of a nice D/L cap if you can't use it quasi-frequently?
128kbps DSL for $19.20 a month with a 5G cap isn't too bad, especially since those users probably aren't going to hit their cap anyway.
They say that 92% of their users use less than 5G/month, but 8% is an awful lot of users and are probably the same power users that are convincing the other 92% to sign up for service.
- Rob |
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smiley4me
join:2002-02-25
North York, ON
| Stats
Given that 50% of the population uses the internet. That would affect about 1 out of 18 internet users, or 5.5% of the population. Given that there are 31,100,000 people in Canada. But if most of the subscribers were in ON with 12,440,000 people, it would be 1 in 7 or 13.6% of internet users.
Of cource the above stats are all made up from what a remember from other survays about internet usage  |
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soothsayer15
join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX | I know it's been said before...
What the point of having a cap on broadband? These companies tout downloading mp3's and streaming video s a selling point. Like I've had customer tell me before, "It's the old bait and switch." |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to djrobx
Re: I dunno, I think...
The 128 package is $29.95 with a one gig crap. That's pretty sad IMO....
But I suppose it exists as a broadband entry point for grandma...
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Palpatine for Senate |
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Bob Carrick
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2000-04-24
New York, NY
| reply to djrobx
I will actually be moving to that plan, if all my fighting of this works it will have a 20 gig cap and the 1 meg will have a ten gig cap. Forward on we press! Thanks for the support people.
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Bob --»www.carricksolutions.com - The largest PPPoE Help Website, including EnterNet, WinPoet, MacPoet, Access Manager, RASPPPoE, & Networking |
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mwf
join:2000-11-26
Granite Quarry, NC
·Vonage
| Who pays for the spam and ads?
How exactly are the ISP's going to justify charging people for unwanted content?
Think about it, have someone who you don't like, starting sending him e-mail attachments on the first and kill his cap by the 5th.
Tier within a tier would be better, step the bandwidth down as the usage goes up over the course of a month. But there is no way people are going to pay extra simply because some websites are loaded with pop-ups, pop-unders, flash movies, etc. |
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F10
@170.148.x.x
| They're mad
"There will be three new speed and price points, with a low speed/low cost package and "uber-user" solution being the new offerings. The highest of the newly proposed packages, dubbed "Sympatico High Speed Ultra", a 3 Mbps down and 640 Kbps up package, will cost $69.95 per month, and will have a download and upload cap of 10 gigabytes per month."
I think it would be time to find a new provider if I were in their area.. Not only did they increase the price but put a measly 10 gig bandwidth cap on their TOP service. |
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Davros866
join:2001-07-23
Houston, TX
| What a load of crap!
Those caps are ridiculously low! Were those prices Canadian or U.S. $? Because $70/month for only 10gb is terrible. I use about 3gb a DAY! Call me a hog if you want, but if you're only checking email or movie show times, you don't belong on broadband. My dl is not going to affect your pathetic AOL instant messenger crap.
As for the non-hog users, now YOU have to pay for every banner ad you see, and every spam email you get, and every popup that comes up from all the cancerous adware/sh1tware fighting it out for control of your soul.
IMHO, the trend over the past decade has been continual degradation of the internet and the pc world as more and more mainstream "users" get into it. Computing was nothing but pleasure in the late 1980's and early 1990's before it was all about making money. Now the same assholes who ruined television in the 20th century are doing the same to the internet.
I'm getting so sick of all of these issues. I never imagined even 3 years ago that the internet could suck this bad.
So, I'm off to read a book now. I don't have to pay per page, and I don't have to pay every time I open it, and it's not full of ads that pop out in my face. |
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CO_Chris
Premium
join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO
·Comcast
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
·Comcast Digital Vo..
|  is that CRAP or Cap?? J/K.... i think its Bs as well... in a good week i am downloading like 3 or 4 Gigs so this does not work for me... i feel your pain up there.. good luck hope that it dont work and thay go back to what it was for youz...
you got friends in TEXAS,
Bye Christopher
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AMD Duron 950Mhz/256 Ram/Win Xp Pro/EarthLink DSL 1284/109 |
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sadowski
I Am My Own Doppelganger
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-14
Buffalo, NY
clubs:
| reply to djrobx
Re: I dunno, I think...
But if you take the conversion into account then they are paying currently only about $25(US) for the standard plan. Who is paying that in the US? But in any event, it still misses the point. If we had to pay $8 or $4 for each extra GB used then that can add up very fast. 5GB is not a lot. Some binaries from news, some streaming anything, all the visits to various websites (including those heavy flash sites) and there's your 5GB. Frankly, I don't care about 3MB/s down. I want better upstream and no data caps, or at least a reasonable one of at least 10GB/month.
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In this world of sin and sorrow, there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. -- H.L. Mencken |
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kilingspam
join:2001-04-30
San Jose, CA
|  Less value for the dollar.
Surfers will want to kill popup banners and flashy flash adds even more due to them eating up their bandwidth limits. I wonder when websites are going to cry fowl about surfers stopping their adds from being displayed.
It will be like the entire tivo/others fight about copyright infringement by bypassing commercials etc.
It seems some company man is alwaysing trying to seperate us further from our hard earned dollars.
Be it the ones who sell your email address (or yahoo who is selling your email, home address, & phone number) or sell you broadband with the teird pricing.
Seems funny how one company mans brainstorm to screw us out of dough has gone global for the ISP world.
How much do they think we will take before we start saying "remeber the good old days of dialup".
Isp's didn't legally have to keep 90 days worth of your emails and surfing habits and could be sued for damages for giving your info to The Man on a whim when you were doing no wrong.
Run your own email server, encrypt, encrypt, encrypt! |
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nlocklin
Hail To Pitt
Premium
join:2001-03-24
Pittsburgh, PA
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..
| reply to djrobx
Re: I dunno, I think...
3000/640 for $44.91/month CDN? That's it! I'm moving back to Canada! Does Sympatico offer static routable IP addresses? If it did, that would be an incredible deal. Too bad there's not as many IT jobs in Canada. |
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Davros866
join:2001-07-23
Houston, TX | reply to CO_Chris
Re: What a load of crap!
If you listen to internet radio for 4 hours a day, like I do, that adds up to 5gb per month! So you see these limits are ridiculously low.
If that happened here I would have to get a dial up account to be able to listen to my internet radio. |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
| Monopolies Suck!!!
This exactly why we need either competition in the same media and not monopolies, or in case of the necessary evil monopoly, regulation.
Mr FCC are you listening? Or does the acronym FCC mean "Forget Consumer Choice or F**k Consumer Choice"? |
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS |  Download limits
Is it a limit on your bandwith or DOWNLOAD limits? I don't think pop-up ads would go against it because you don't download them. |
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nekote
join:2000-12-16
Hopkinton, MA
| 92% use 1.5 GB/mo; $7.90 / GB /mo
Interesting.
The article says 92% use 1.5 GB/mo.
Avgerage of 50MB / day?
Suggested $7.90 (Canadian?) / GB / mo for "excess" bandwidth.
My info is 1 GB / mo goes for $1.75 USD.
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Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all other forms of government. - Winston Churchill |
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nekote
join:2000-12-16
Hopkinton, MA
| Electronic submissions to FCC
email to: ecfs@fcc.gov
with text: get form youremail@yourisp.tld
Then, you get an explanatory response form.
ATT Comcast is Docket # is 02-70
Make sure to remember to send as plain ASCII text.
My example:
(NEED TO replace [ with less than and ] with greater than)
I don't know how to show the proper symbol in this forum - sorry.
[PROCEEDING] 02-70
[DATE] 5/10/02
[NAME] My Name
[ADDRESS1] 123 Main St
[ADDRESS2]
[CITY] Somewhere
[STATE] ST
[ZIP] 99999
[LAW-FIRM]
[ATTORNEY]
[DOCUMENT-TYPE] CO
[PHONE-NUMBER] 123-456-7890
[DESCRIPTION] Email Comment
[CONTACT-EMAIL] me@myisp.tld
[TEXT]
Dear FCC:
Blah, blah, blah ....
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Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all other forms of government. - Winston Churchill |
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IJustLuvMyDSL
@covad.net
| Don't you just LOVE the cable modem monopoly?
This is why I love my DSL connection! I can just switch to one of at least 16 different ISPs without having to be disconnected for three months! No caps (at least not yet); no usage monitoring.
This article that I just read kind of says it well, although not perfectly. Sympatico and Time-Warner Cable management should read this to see what their customers are thinking.
»www.bityard.com/article.php?sid=238 |
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cybermud
join:2000-08-25
Chicago, IL | reply to jsouth
Re: Download limits
Any web page that is displayed on your computer is 'downloaded' and would count against your cap. Likewise for email, instant messages, etc. |
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