Davros866
join:2001-07-23
Houston, TX | Screw RIAA
Even if you don't share files, don't buy any CD's ever again!!! |
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belushi
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join:2000-11-08
Twinsburg, OH
| What about tapes? Can I buy those? Or how about DVDs and records. Can I please buy those...please?
[text was edited by author 2002-07-03 13:40:16] |
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jmargel
join:2001-03-07
Northumberland, PA | I agree...
The RIAA sucks moose balls... |
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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| Record company posse
It looks like the RIAA doesn't just want the Kazaa folks, but all of the folks using their networks too.
Seems like a similar tactic was used to scare Napster users into deleting their files after that firestorm started.
I wouldn't be immediately duped by it.
It's a scare tactic, like before.
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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| *Sigh*
As if the RIAA has no right to do this. These people are obviously illegally distributing music. This doesn't have anything to do with making a backup copy of music. This has everything to do with the illegal distribution of music. Why does the RIAA suck "moose balls" in this instance? Why does this action warrant not buying cds?
Yes, the RIAA is greedy. Am I going to boycott music as a whole because of this story? No. Of course, when quality music is released, I will buy more music. Until then, my money goes to DVD.
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TxKent
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join:2001-05-18
Pflugerville, TX
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|  reply to Davros866
Re: Screw RIAA
Dang, I didn't see your post - I was out at the music store buying Willie Nelson and Bob Schneider CDs, and looking for anything that I don't own by BareNaked Ladies.
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tcp1
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join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA
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| Just keep goin', RIAA
Each time these music industry idiots pulls another paranoid attack scheme out of their legal arsenal, they alienate another bunch of customers. Why don't they get it?
There's a simple, easy way to take care of file trading: offer your product at a reasonable price. There is no place for a $18 CD in today's market. Why does the music industry think they're immune to the market forces that EVERY OTHER BUSINESS has to abide by?
When HP created the first electronic calculator, it sold for hundreds of dollars. Now you can get one for a buck fifty. Times change. Technology changes. You can burn a CD for a quarter. Why in the world should we be paying $18 for a bunch of songs, most we don't even like?
The RIAA keeps dribbling about how CDs are a "great product" and a "great value". Marketing tripe if I ever heard it. I haven't bought a CD since 1999. And I dont download MP3s that much either.. Nevermind the fact that most music coming out on major labels is complete and utter crap these days, it's just not worth the money.
How come movie companies can produce a movie and sell it on a DVD for $19, yet the soundtrack for the same movie costs $18? Where's the "value" in that, Ms. Rosen?
Just like every other company that has been scamming the public, the lies of the music companies have come back to haunt them. They're upset because they can no longer suck in billions of dollars for doing little to no work in the market producing overpriced CDs.
Sell individual songs that you can download AND BURN for $0.25-$1.00, and you'll solve your piracy problem right there.
However, the record companies aren't doing that -- because they know nobody'd pay for the crap filler that litters every CD, and that they wouldn't be able to pad the price for "production, manufacturing, and distribution."
It's interesting watching an industry fight as it slowly dies. It's even better since the record industry is a bunch of spoiled brats.
Did IBM start touting the "value" of typewriters when personal computers came to be? No; they repositioned and got on the right track for the future. Too bad the people running the record industry are too primitively stupid to do the same.
I'll never buy a CD again. (But I buy plenty of DVDs. We'll see how long that stays reasonable.) I used to be kinda annoyed at the kids who actually snicker at downloading simply because they're subverting the record companies - because before, that wasn't the point..
Now, screw 'em. If they're going to start suing their customers, let them rot. |
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cbs228
Geeks Of The World, Unite
join:2000-09-04
Saint Louis, MO
|  When will they stop?
Will the RIAA ever be satisfied? I don't think they will ever be satisfied until they have undertaken massive changes to our society to meet their needs. Specifically, they'll want to start automatically charging whomever listens to one of their prized songs as they listen to them, billed per second, whenever, wherever.
I for one am tired of all this BS, they can't possibly hope to stop P2P trading no matter what kind of security they put on CDs to permanently crash computers, and no matter how many people they target its still going to be there.
If they continue with this course of action I have no doubt that THEY will be the ones who dramatically decrease sales, and then they'll try and blame it on us!
So long as the greater portion of society rolls over and plays dead, the RIAA can get its way.
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z3n0m
join:2000-10-07
Sacramento, CA
| reply to Davros866
Re: Screw RIAA
I don't find it hard to not buy overpriced CDs. And I think that is why filetrading is so rampant. Oh, another reason is, YOU CANT BUY MP3'S LEGALLY(yes i know there are a few services cropping up, buy they suck). 'ooooh, mp3s bad, they can be copied' yeah, but so can any other digital format, except for that DRM crap that noone in their right mind is going to use.
The image of the RIAA gets worse and worse every day. Wow, almost like M$. It's only a matter of time before these evil empires come crashing down. It's sad to see corporations that are so greedy, caring more about the profit margin rather than customer satisfaction/trust or quality products.
Bottom line, give the customers what they want. A flat rate subscription service where you can download MP3's and do whatever you want with them(meaning use them in anything you want, not share them). Maybe if something like this was widely available people wouldnt be so inclined to 'steal' music. |
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TxRoadDawg
We're Gonna Ride Forever
join:2001-08-17
Warner Robins, GA
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Re: Record company posse
let the idiots try this new tactic and see how far down sales really drop. piracy my ass, try the economic slump plus an absolute lack of talent being released today for killing sales. when was the LAST album any artist released that had even half the tracks worth listening to instead of the customary one hit and 11 fillers we get today. until record companies raise the quality of the bullshit they release to a product worth buying dont expect us to pay 15$ and up for one track to listen to
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CatholicJedi
join:2001-09-28
Mesa, AZ
| Take a hint from Gandhi
I've been watching the movie Gandhi of late, and I find quite a parallel with this situation and Gandhi's mission in India. No matter what Britain tried to do to stop Gandhi and his people, they never succeeded. Eventually, they finally gave up. Their original arrogance and belief that they were unstoppable is quite like the RIAA's. Eventually, the RIAA will realize that they cannot win, and that if they continue their tactics, the only people they will stop are themselves.
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Rigeltiger
join:2001-05-03
Leesburg, VA
| reply to tcp1
Re: Just keep goin', RIAA
said by tcp1:
It's interesting watching an industry fight as it slowly dies.
And wins. Since AudioGalaxy was taken out, dedicated music P2P is ended. The all-file sharing servers such as Kazaa and GNutella clones are used mainly for pornography. As much as everyone obstinately claims otherwise, music P2P is done and over. As Microsoft has shown, big industry barely has to lift a pinky to sic the FBI on anyone using their stuff. Expect to see a lot of that in the future. There's nothing we can do about it, either.
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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Rowlett, TX
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| reply to Nightfall
Re: *Sigh*
Because, for one, I would imagine that many of these "supernodes" contain music that is not otherwise copyrighted, as well as other types of media works.
Again, the RIAA is trying to exert control over things which they have no legal domain, as well as that they believe they have domain over.
As a sidenote, it is groups like the RIAA and the various record companies that are responsible for the crap called "popular music" these days, which makes it difficult to find good new music, because it is surrounded by mountain of garbage.
Record companies are the only reason "artists" like Britney Spears are still singing and not shining shoes at the airport for a living.
There's no accounting for taste in corporate marketing.
You take a teenage girl, shove her into some britches are 5 sizes too small, put a push up bra on her, and get her a choreographer, and you can bet that 5,000,000 teenagers are going to buy her garbage at $20 each.
Jessica Simpson, Christina Augilera, Lil' Kim, etc.etc.etc.
In the meantime, artists with more talent and less T&A get kicked to the curb.
These artists rely on P2P to get their music heard.
I know. I have been one of them.
Not trying to humble myself, but Justin Timberlake ain't talented enough to even tie my shoes.
Now then, many of others recognize these points I'm making. They too are disgusted by the state of the industry.
As such, they don't buy the music.
When an act puts out a CD, they probably have one good tune on it and the rest is crap, and the public recognizes this fact. Why would one then go out and buy that CD for $20 when nothing else good exists on it? They don't. They find good stuff on the web, then download them, and make their own collections.
Until the record company realizes that quality and originality is what's going to make people buy records, and find ways to embrace P2P technology instead of alienating it, then I see this trend continuing.
To many people, perky tits and round asses are not all that's required to legitimize a CD investment.
Sure, it makes a great CD cover, but that's all.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | T&A in music isn't such a bad thing  I just watch the videos on "mute" hehe. |
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RRedline
Rated R
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join:2002-05-15
Williamsport, PA
| reply to Rigeltiger
Re: Just keep goin', RIAA
said by Rigeltiger:
said by tcp1:
It's interesting watching an industry fight as it slowly dies.
And wins. Since AudioGalaxy was taken out, dedicated music P2P is ended. The all-file sharing servers such as Kazaa and GNutella clones are used mainly for pornography. As much as everyone obstinately claims otherwise, music P2P is done and over. As Microsoft has shown, big industry barely has to lift a pinky to sic the FBI on anyone using their stuff. Expect to see a lot of that in the future. There's nothing we can do about it, either.
How is it over? I downloaded three songs today while at work using WinMX. It is not over.
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mitska
join:2001-12-25
Sarasota, FL
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| bah
It seems every time I think they have reached the summit...or cannot possibly surprise me...the RIAA mafia say or do something so impossibly STUPID I wonder how they can have the inherent ability to even breathe or excrete waste matter......oops I forgot, if they are speaking they are doing both at once. On a more serious note I am in the music business...and everything in this business revolves around the following:
1. who do you know
2. who is backing you
3. what is public opinion of you
Without all of these three things being solid...you are done for without a doubt. there is my 2 cents and I don't want change thanks...:) |
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MortySnerd
join:2001-07-26
Mclean, VA
| reply to Rigeltiger
Re: Just keep goin', RIAA
said by Rigeltiger:
As much as everyone obstinately claims otherwise, music P2P is done and over.
I donno about that. About once every 3 months I remember a classic rock song I want to download, and WinMX has never let me down. No ads or spyware, simultaneous downloads from multiple sources... is there something about it I'm missing that it isn't more popular than it is? |
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stet
Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
| What Customers?
said by main page:
Apparently, customer alienation is a price the RIAA is willing to pay.
The people running these "supernodes" and those who are running these high volume sites aren't customers to begin with. They're not buying anything. They are just stealing it all and giving it all away for free.
I have no problem with the RIAA going after them any more then I'd have a problem with the SPA going after someone publicly running a pirated software service.
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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Re: *Sigh*
Hey, I like tits and ass as much as the next guy.
I think Shakira is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen, but it won't make me go buy her CD. As a matter of fact, she's much more attractive to me when her vocal cords AREN'T vibrating.
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
clubs: | reply to TxRoadDawg
Re: Record company posse
I said the same thing in another post. |
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