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Comments on news posted 2002-08-02 11:21:01: Senator John McCain yesterday introduced legislation that would prevent the government from requiring broadband providers to offer access to competing ISP's in the residential broadband market. ..

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gnucleus7
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join:2002-06-06
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 If I had MY way, you'd be out of office!

This is the LAST thing we need. Let's just fastrack any legislation that helps our fat cat donors to my presidential PAC. Who gives a hoot about competition?. Not Mr Mc Cain. Keep this in mind when he runs for president. Mr No choice for anybody!
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INHCNN

join:2001-12-15
Lansing, MI

funny...

Yeah, from what I infer from the article, this is the exact opposite direction of what we should be traveling...

Cable cos' are not currently regulated like the Telco's are, and therefore limits my cable TV and cable modem access to 1 provider, whom I just happen to dislike. If it's good for the goose it's good for the gander, and I feel that it's time for us to start treating cable co's like telco's.

On a different note, has anyone else got a good chuckle about the new SBC commercial - the one where they go on and on about 'our networks, our people, our service' and the CLEC's being 'salespeople'? It was a pretty good laugh, but in a strange way, they bring out a good point - the ILEC is solely responsible for the maintenence of thier network, true? So, what if they are 'un-motivated' to fix this, or deploy that? Tottally thier choice. Now how do we fix that? The same theory needs to be tossed at the cable co's too....

my 2 pennies....

=T


phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?

join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ
 This is BAD NEWS!!!

DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN. IF THIS HAPPENS, THEN EXPECT TO SEE ALL RATES FOR ALL TELCO SERVICES GO WAY WAY UP!
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Perihelion

join:2001-03-29
Orange, CA

reply to gnucleus7
Re: If I had MY way, you'd be out of office!

Great - let's concede the residential market to the ILEC's that makes a lot of sense. While we are at it let's bury a bunch more companies that have access to UNE-P and wipe out some more shareholder equity, cause more layoffs and make the ILEC's true monopolies once again.

Great plan Senator - are you at all in touch with what's going on out here? I suppose that's why there was no co-sponsor, because no one else shares this view.

lvas

join:2001-05-17
Glen Carbon, IL

 reply to INHCNN
understand what your asking for folks.

funny - whats funny is most of the peoples replies to this post thread. sure - lets have the govt make the same screwed up laws for the cable firms that have caused all this mess in the telecom sector. don't you folks read the papers? 500,000 jobs lost in the telcom sector over the past 2 years - 2 trillion lost in the stock market crash in the telecom sector. that is real jobs and real monies lost - under the current rules/regulation from the 1996 act - and you all think the 1996 act is working?

ha - what a joke. do you really believe all of those lost jobs and peoples lost 401k monies is a fair trade off for you to have a choice of ISP?


onsitede
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join:2000-11-24
Broad Brook, CT
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The companies that are folding are the companies that were built on paper (not the pretty green stuff with presidents faces, either) and were generally miss managed.

Bsod

join:2002-06-19
Acton, MA
reply to lvas
Well it's not as if the government forced Worldcom to lend Bernie Ebbers that $half billion, is it? Immunity from regulation is not what telecom monopolies need at the moment.

blah194

join:2002-03-04
Lake Charles, LA
Oh good lord...

Let's not forget that McCain is the author of that moronic campaing reform bill. I do NOT want him doing to the communications industry what he has done with that...


Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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McCain obviously has other motives.....

because his proposal is really bad for the consumer and would essentially shut down all competition. And, the prime example to demonstrate this is happening right here
in Central Ohio.

RoadRunner is offered over two cable systems now in Columbus. Time Warner and Insight Communications.

If you are a Time Warner customer, you can get a CHOICE
of Time Warner RR..Earthlink Cable..or AOL High Speed Cable. And, in some other markets they have added even more, with some local companies being allowed access.
This Choice came about because of the regulations imposed on the AOL~Time Warner merger. That they HAD to open their lines to at least 3 competing ISP's.
Since that time, both Earthlink and AOL High Speed Cable
have offered an alternative to Time Warners RR.
And BOTH Earthlink and AOL Cable offer pricing plans that were LESS than Time Warners. (EL= 41.95 month and AOL you can get down to that price with a yearly plan)...whereas TW RR is 44.95.
Also, since Earthlink came on board..ALSO offering dialup backup with your cable access..Time warner has Also come out with dial access as well.

This is COMPETITION in action. Some RR customers were able to lower their monthly bill, and get Dialup access included in the price as well. And, if they don't like the service TW is delivering...they can switch.

This doesn't affect the speeds..pings etc because it's over the same lines...but it does impact the Customer service..price..and features.

In this same Area..Insight offers ONLY RR. They are a monopoly to those of us who can only be serviced by them.
The only reason AOL/TW is doing this is because they were forced to as part of their merger.
Insight had no such requirements..and certainly hasn't jumped on the bandwagon. And, why would they? When they can have the whole pie to themselves.

Insight has RAISED prices..and many people are seeing lower speeds than the others. Insight offers NO dialup backup access.

Mr McCain really only needs to look at this market to see how WRONG his proposal is.

He's out for one thing, and one thing only. To protect the big players out there now.
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abrody

join:2000-07-20
Silver Spring, MD
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Alas, while here in Montgomery County Maryland we have competition, it is governed by unwritten geographic boundaries based on where the competition has managed to setup service. Scattered areas are covered by Starpower, but for the most part there is only Comcast if you are out of range of DSL. True competition means complete coverage everywhere by multiple ISPs. How else could Comcast raise their non-Cable TV subscriber rates to $63 a month for Cable internet? It is insanity. Lucky for me I live where DSL is plentiful, but again costly if you want anything more than 768 x 128 since the only telco is Verizon. Sure we have Cavalier, but they cost more for DSL than Verizon, and I might end up losing my existing phone number.


DaveNJ
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join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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1996 tel act failed

Its obvious the Telco act of 96 failed, and i understand why he would want to scrap it. However I think we need a stronger version. Just make the 'last mile' a seperate company problem solved.
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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO
 where do i need to call?

oh where do i have to start making calls again? damm them.. i am sick of this shit.. cant thay keep out of it..
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jethrogump
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join:2001-03-02
Mesquite, TX

What a Wonderfull Bill.

I have always known McCain was hit a little too hard in the head with the Cain in Vietnam.

The Boys just not right in the Head. Yes we really need a broadband view from the “Manchurian Candidate”.

His handlers in the Hanoi Hilton must have thought this up. Its totally wacky and another politician giving professional opinion on something he knows nothing about.

Imagine a country run by John McCain and Ross Perot worse mini-me Ross Perot Jr. We would already be in an economic panic and at war with every country in the Middle East.



boogie74

join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI
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Is there anyone here that understands this bill?

I find it odd that most here ignore that the bill ignores business data. This is based on the fact that business data is BIG time competitive. Business data is where the big money is, yet no one here has come to the conclusion that residential data is lacking competition because CLEC's and independent ISP's don't want to sell it- most here would rather conclude (can't comprehend this one) that ILEC's are letting in rivals for the big money clients, but holding on to the small potatoes in residential services.

And all for what? To make sure that "Bob Internet User" has no access to broadband? To make less money to make a group of DSLR posters unhappy?

Please explain the "bad" part of this? It's obvious that most here haven't a clue as to what the bill really says- did you all even read it? Or just conclude that you know better than everyone in the telecom industry and regulatory groups?

Boogie


grunteled
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Kansas City, MO
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reply to lvas
Re: understand what your asking for folks.

Oh yea, I'm remember that section 5 para 15 of the 1996 telcom act required all telecom companies to report false earnings and inflate stock prices. There was language to force investors to buy anything ending in "dot com". There was another clause instructing them to loan CEOs billions of dollars to purchase company stock to drive up it's apparent value. If it hadn't been for regulations these guys would have been honest, hardworking folks. Free from regs these execs would be out day after day working tirelessly to make life better for the working men and women at their company. It's all the fault of big, bad regulation.

Come on.


TKJunkMail
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McCain bill should be named Monopoly Act of 2002

The local Bells and the Cable companies must have compromising pictures of McCain or are sending tons of money his way. This bill should be introduced as the "Monopoly Act of 2002". Single handedly, McCain is trying to eliminate competition for residential broadband customers. This act would result in higher, rates, worse service, and less choices. Hopefully he won't get enough co-sponsors to get this bill moving.
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ieolus
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join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA
reply to lvas
Re: understand what your asking for folks.

It was also the Telecom Act of '96 that CREATED all those telecom jobs.
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garagerock
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join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY

reply to lvas
so, you must be accessing dslreports.com on a T-1 or better, or maybe a metered ISDN line, eh? how about dialup?

i'm guessing no.

kinda hard to say that TA1996 was the cause of the burst of the bubble. too many other factors at play, such as gross mismanagement, fibbing stock analysts, market conditions that only gamblers could see was a mess, lying and cheating CEO's, etc.

TA1996 was certainly the cause of the inflation of the bubble, however. a lot of money, time, and effort went into that bubble.

to suggest that TA1996 somehow created this mess is ignoring the good it has done. if you live in the right place, it has done wonders to foster competition. remember, 1996 was only 6 years ago. it takes a long time to see how a landmark law like that is going to effect change.


TKJunkMail
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reply to boogie74
Re: Is there anyone here that understands this bill?

said by boogie74:
It's obvious that most here haven't a clue as to what the bill really says- did you all even read it? Or just conclude that you know better than everyone in the telecom industry and regulatory groups?
It is obvious to everyone else here but you that if big business is for this bill, then improved competition is the LAST THING this bill will foster. Big business only supports laws that limit competition and foster monopolies.
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jethrogump
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join:2001-03-02
Mesquite, TX
Yeah you saved me the post.

McCain is Insane!!
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