tomkb
Premium
join:2000-11-15
Avon, OH
clubs: | Of course they'll file
>>The math doesn't paint a very pretty picture.
Boy, you got that right. They ought to repurpose that satellite for some other task if they know whats good for them. |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
| Idiots
They don't deserve any protection whatsoever. Let them rot in hell.
How much of a genious does it take for them to poll the cable radio services too see how popular they are? and they are on averate $8/month. These fools thing people will pay $300 THEN pay a monthly fee? Just look at satellite dish to know better. They are always forced into cutting deals on selling the dish and converter.
Of course this was destined to fail from the start. As much as I love my cable radio, I get it free on the net anyway. Sure I wouldnt mind having satellite radio at $10/month. But I will not invest $300 in a company that was born yesterday. again.
Just consider that it costs them likely as much as it costs dish TV (if not more->RIAA), but they are charging much less.
You can't burn a log twice.
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dnoyeB
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16
The government is pricing our rights our of our reach. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
 ·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| Not available to new car buyers
I have been waiting for the top of the lines, bmw,audi,infiniti to offer it as part of there packages. Most people dont want extra equipment lying around in their vehical. This is what they have to push.
New cars with XM options.
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deltapi
join:2001-04-25
Memphis, TN
| reply to tomkb
Re: Of course they'll file
I guess what disturbs me, not just in this case, but across the spectrum, is the number of financial analysts who can make or break a company, yet understand little if anything about current technologies, be it satellite radio or chip makers, or Cisco. There's no "horizon" anymore, it's "show me the money" or they're sticking a toe-tag on the company. |
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Mashiki
Balking The Enemy's Plans
join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON
·Bright House
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to DaveNJ
Re: Not available to new car buyers
said by DamnDave:
I have been waiting for the top of the lines, bmw,audi,infiniti to offer it as part of there packages. Most people dont want extra equipment lying around in their vehical. This is what they have to push.
New cars with XM options.
Well, while bmw, audi and infiniti don't have XM recivers, you can get them from saturn, cadilliac, chevy, and buick. They are a $100 option in all those models except the caddy's in which case, they are probbly a $400 option  No but truethfully, some models of caddies, have them already inside along with OnStar and a year of free access to both.
Personaly, a plain radio works just fine for me. And I would rather see the implmentation of AM Stereo over XM radio. Maybe that's just me I do listen to AM radio more often then I do FM, usually 760 detroit, and 1210 Philly, 1210 less often due to the fact it's across the lakes and hard to pick up unless the conditions are right...which AM stereo is supposed to fix.
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deltapi
join:2001-04-25
Memphis, TN
| reply to dnoyeB
Re: Idiots
I wouldn't subscribe to satellite radio, but I do have a dish at home. Time Warner cable kept raising their prices, and Directv was/is a better deal, with more channels, and more of what I want.
I dunno, I just think comparing the radio deal to satellite tv is a bad example. However, I agree with your point about paying for the radio, and then paying a subscription fee. We're used to paying for television/movies, but paying to listen to my radio?? No way, especially when I have free music channels via the internet or Directv. |
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Harddrive
Premium
join:2000-09-20
Norwich, CT
| reply to deltapi
Re: Of course they'll file
Exactly! Its the boys on the floor down there on Wall Street that put a company in the dumps. "Lucent didn't make its numbers for 3 quarters and made the brokers look bad. Lets put them in the trash can for a couple of years. BTW, put the whole damn telcom sector with them for a while."
Its not how much money a company has, or what kind of stuff they are pushing. If the stock market wants them as a cheap stock or the opposite, they can do it in one day.
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antiserious
The Future ain't what it used to be
Premium
join:2001-12-12
Scranton, PA
|  ... never was a good idea ...
... IMHO ... could never see it being successful ... and I listen to a LOT of music, but I'd prefer to select it myself ...
... why pay for a service that does what your cd or tape player will do as well or better, and you already have them ... convenience is only worth so much, it seems ...
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
Premium
join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
clubs: 
| reply to DaveNJ
Re: Not available to new car buyers
Well, I predicted that these companies were to be beset by problems (financial, logistical) and that they would fail.
I remember reading an article before XM actually launched their service that GM Hughes (the satellite manufacturer) had contacted XM and told them that due to a "manufacturing defect" that their satellites would not last the 15-20 years that was predicted, but 5-7 years because of a defect in the power generation and distribution subsystems.
That was just the start of their nightmare. I decided right then that I was not about to invest in a proprietary technology for a receiver device that would be utterly useless in less than 5 years.
So, this announcement doesn't surprise me at all.
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tomkb
Premium
join:2000-11-15
Avon, OH
clubs: | reply to tomkb
Re: Of course they'll file
Ya know, you can only cram so much crap down people throat before they figure out they don't really need it. I just can't see one good reason to ever use this service. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Totally useless
Why would anyone who could afford to pay for XM Radio do so when they can buy a CD burner and make their own custom CDs? The same people could also most likely afford MP3 players for their cars.
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anonguy
@wvdsl.net
| Well no wonder.
Has anybody heard XM radio? Its a very low bitrate stream of sound, and it sounds it too. About 48kbps that I heard normally. I heard it can only go to 64Kbps max stream quality as well. Everything I heard sounded like a scratchy low quality MP3, and the bitrates are proof of that.
Overpriced, poor quality products are bound to falter like this. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | On top of that, half the channels had advertisements, something I better not get if I pay money for a subscription music service.
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scooby
Premium
join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL | reply to anonguy
Sounds near 128kbit quality to everyone that has listened in my car.
Don't worry people, XM will survive. Its a wonderful service and worth _every_ penny. |
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vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD | Hell yeah
nothing but ads on xm a few somgs here and there |
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drjim
Premium,MVM
join:2000-06-13
Torrance, CA
clubs:
| You want fries with that?
Cracks me up that although the receiver is $300, the antenna is "Sold separately"! DUH! What good is it without the antenna? They came to my workplace a few months ago to give a demo. The car had a way tricked-out stereo system, and it sounded OK. Several of us asked the guy (young kid, NO tech background) what it sounded like playing through the regular speakers, and he said "You really need a GOOD stereo to get the most out of it!". So they want you to buy another $1000 worth of gear to make it sound good? I don't think so, at least not in MY car.
What a waste of spectrum!
drjim
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DJMADfx
join:2002-02-27
Merrick, NY | reply to pnh102
Re: Totally useless
Why would anyone but legal CDs then? They don't. Good point about the radio thing. Most people, if they want quality, they'll burn CDs, not listen to the radio. No one wants to pay to listen. |
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QuadrantFive5
join:2002-07-12
Silver Spring, MD
| Maybe if the FCC outlawed regular AM/FM?
Like they just did for digital TV, see
»www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,59932,00.html
I think FM is a better comparison than Digital TV. It never took off until every car radio made was AM/FM. If every single new car was SatRad ready, and to listen all you had to do was sign up, maybe they'd have a chance. |
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deltapi
join:2001-04-25
Memphis, TN | reply to Harddrive
Right on the numbers
You got it. What kind of buffer or protection does the average company have if the Lucent's, or Cisco's of the world can tank on the word of a couple of Wall Street "Analysts"?? |
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banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
join:2001-08-18
Naples, FL
·Comcast
| reply to Mashiki
Re: Not available to new car buyers
AM Stereo? I'd rather see that too. I listen to AM almost exclusively for news & talk radio, because I'm tired of hearing the exact same Lifehouse song every time I turn on one of our bazillion Top 40 stations around here. I miss Detroit's 760 WJR and 950 WWJ. I grew up and Detroit and that AM radio was great to have.
Satellite radio is something I would never subscribe to. My commute is only 20 minutes and I rarely go for road trips -- and if I do, that's what CDs are for. Not to mention the relatively large-footprint satellite antennae you have to put on your car. I'd love to see what one of those things would look like on my Trans Am -- probably like hell.
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