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Comments on news posted 2002-11-07 10:33:40: Most U.S. providers have quietly promoted file trading, running vague ads with PC users cheerfully making CD compilations. Very few have banned p2p altogether, yet ISP's may eventually start forcing users to pay more, or face restrictions. ..
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St0rm3d
@ptd.net
| This pretty much tells the story right
Here is a quote from a post in prolog.general newsgroup ::
"I am not going to get into any discussion about this, I am going to just
state the purpose of that letter which has been take wrong by only about 1%
of the customer base from what I have seen.
Here are the facts:
A. Nothing is being changed. It is only in the maybe phase and at this
time have no plans to implement it. Hopefully just getting the word out
will take out one factor in issues that affect all cable broadband
providers, not just PTD.
B. People who have the uploading enabled on these programs are allowing
people to use the bandwidth.
B.1 and this can happen even if they are not personally using it.
C. We are just trying to get the word out that if people are not personally
actively using the upload to turn it off, as it does affect the network.
Why should we waste bandwidth on someone from say Florida when our customers
could be using it. And all because someone either forgot to turn it off
when they were done, or do not even know its on.
D. No one here at PTD is trying to tell anyone what to do with their
connection. The government not PTD sets the laws as far as copyrights and
other issues, if we get legal notice to terminate an account we will do it.
This is not a decision we make we just follow the law.
E. Your speeds that your complaining about have been directly tied to these
kinds of programs sucking down your bandwidth and its most likely being used
by someone outside our network.
F. I am not concerned at this time about the server part even thought that
is a legitimate issue. All we want is for people who are NOT PERSONALLY
using the upload part to just turn it off. It will help everyone. We
have watched the general flow of traffic and have confirmed that these
programs are causing 50% of all speed issues.
G. No we are not out of bandwidth, this is only a way to cut down unused
traffic by people who are not Prolog Customers.
H. We care about our customers and are only trying to maintain as much as
possible the best most consistent service possible, and this letter was
meant just to get the word out to people who may not even know what is
happening and to ask people who do understand to work with us on this. Use
the upload when you personally need it, but do not leave it on all the time
so the bandwidth can just be left on like a water faucet, kind of like water
conservation. Why waste it? We want it for our customers not theirs
I. If these programs are not setup right your computers could have major
security holes in them and your personal files could be available to the
world.
This is all I am going to say about this I hope this puts some peoples mind
at ease. Our main goal is to get rid of wasted bandwidth so you OUR
customers can use it.
I apologize if the intent of the letter was misunderstood in anyway."
--->> That sounds pretty good to me! | |
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St0rm3d
@ptd.net
| This pretty much tells it right
This is taken from a post on the prolog.general newsgroup ::
"I am not going to get into any discussion about this, I am going to just
state the purpose of that letter which has been take wrong by only about 1%
of the customer base from what I have seen.
Here are the facts:
A. Nothing is being changed. It is only in the maybe phase and at this
time have no plans to implement it. Hopefully just getting the word out
will take out one factor in issues that affect all cable broadband
providers, not just PTD.
B. People who have the uploading enabled on these programs are allowing
people to use the bandwidth.
B.1 and this can happen even if they are not personally using it.
C. We are just trying to get the word out that if people are not personally
actively using the upload to turn it off, as it does affect the network.
Why should we waste bandwidth on someone from say Florida when our customers
could be using it. And all because someone either forgot to turn it off
when they were done, or do not even know its on.
D. No one here at PTD is trying to tell anyone what to do with their
connection. The government not PTD sets the laws as far as copyrights and
other issues, if we get legal notice to terminate an account we will do it.
This is not a decision we make we just follow the law.
E. Your speeds that your complaining about have been directly tied to these
kinds of programs sucking down your bandwidth and its most likely being used
by someone outside our network.
F. I am not concerned at this time about the server part even thought that
is a legitimate issue. All we want is for people who are NOT PERSONALLY
using the upload part to just turn it off. It will help everyone. We
have watched the general flow of traffic and have confirmed that these
programs are causing 50% of all speed issues.
G. No we are not out of bandwidth, this is only a way to cut down unused
traffic by people who are not Prolog Customers.
H. We care about our customers and are only trying to maintain as much as
possible the best most consistent service possible, and this letter was
meant just to get the word out to people who may not even know what is
happening and to ask people who do understand to work with us on this. Use
the upload when you personally need it, but do not leave it on all the time
so the bandwidth can just be left on like a water faucet, kind of like water
conservation. Why waste it? We want it for our customers not theirs
I. If these programs are not setup right your computers could have major
security holes in them and your personal files could be available to the
world.
This is all I am going to say about this I hope this puts some peoples mind
at ease. Our main goal is to get rid of wasted bandwidth so you OUR
customers can use it.
I apologize if the intent of the letter was misunderstood in anyway."
--->>That sounds pretty reasonable to me! | |
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thenarftwit
@shawcable.net
| note to ISP: Provide service you'r paid to provide These corporations have to wake up...and start providing the high speed internet that us customers pay for, we don't pay for metering and filtering too. To many companies think that technological services must obey the microsoft model of massive proffits and crappy product followed by price increases forever and propoganda about the great service you get by using their products. The whole idea of high speed internet service is high speed/unlimited etc. Thechnology grows by moors law, most fiber out there is not used, and future tech developments mean 1000X more data thru servers that will fit in your hand. The times of artificial rate restrictions and pricing of data has to go the way of the dodo bird and the old telephone company pricing models of 30 years ago. What we need is to kick a few telco's and cable provides in the ass a bit more...it's too bad that nanotech is not yet fully developed (wait 30+ years)where everyone could grow their own technology such as local comunication fibers that spread across the land (of course, only telco's and cable companies would be allowed to do this).. | |
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deapthroat
@ptd.net
| Reality hurts all People you are making assumtions based on a small bit of knowlege given by an email written by the isp. Reality is if they want to they can put any filters they want on.
1. Its their network
2. Say they have 60000 customers and they feel it will make life better for 59999 customers or even 1 customer thats their perogative.
3. Some one stated the isp should ignore the riaa or mpaa, what if they were presented with a court order that said they have to comply with the riaa or mpaa?
4. Why should they let you do something that is against the law?
5. If people have this much time to bitch and find reasons to bitch about they need to get a life. People may not remember but there was a time before the internet. If customers continue to bitch moan and complain about their isp's mabey all the isps should close up shop and no more internet for any one.
6. There is more to life then internet get a life, go spend quality time with your families. There is a whole world out there with many wonders go explore it.
I'm off my soap box flame me if you must but I ask that you think and research before you do so you know what your talking about. Thank you for your time! | |
| WareWolF2k
join:2000-11-14
Allentown, PA
| Something else interesting about prolog. I found out something else about this wonderful ISP who is so carefully 'looking out for their users' by 'warning' them of this 'unethical conduct'. Seems they like to hire tech support people thru temp agencies and after 15 weeks they lay them off and give them notice about 2 hours before their starting time. They would have to pay them unemployment benefits if they worked for 16 weeks. I guess ethical behavour only applies to users, not the host. | |
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The0retical
@fast.net
| Re: Something else interesting about prolog. Dude you need to get a life instead of flaming a reputable company you should get a job and actually find out what the world is really like. I haven't heard any thing even remotly near this and I work there. So I strongly suggest that you get your facts straight before you post anything more that makes you look like an idiot. | |
| | | WareWolF2k
join:2000-11-14
Allentown, PA | Re: Something else interesting about prolog. anonymouse user at a fast.net domain? why arent you using prolog as your isp if they are so good? | |
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