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Comments on news posted 2002-11-08 11:54:47: When EMusic began, customers were thrilled by the concept of a legitimate music service and signed up in droves to download their favorite music. The company, who claims "unlimited high quality MP3's for as low as $9. ..
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 icertweak
join:2002-10-24
Yorkton, SK
| Just Boycott them! Screw It!!!! Just boycott them! There are plenty of "free" ways to get music online. There should be a mass internet wide every popup ad being "Boycott the Suns o byatches" If most people are like me and they really like the music I download I will go out and buy the album. Sure "Unlimited" internet companies will boot you off the system if you download way to damn much, but only after proving that you really were abusing the system. I am a person who enjoys variety and that in turn means I download allot of songs. I don't Run server and send them to all my friends. I listen to them myself. | |
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Penguins
Have You Played Atari Today?
join:2001-12-01
Cleveland, OH | Classic bait and switch. File a dispute with your credit card company.
About 5000 chargebacks should wake them up.
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| | | Pent
join:2002-04-13
Lacey, WA
| You greedy f*cks are ruining it for everyone else If your too damn stupid to realize that your indisciminate greed-downloading as much ass you can get is wrong-then you should be banned for being the stupid ass greedy f*cks that you are.Cry all you want about the unlimited policy-Its greedy f*cks like you who always ruin it for the rest of us. | |
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some guy$
Mommy What's Irony?
join:2002-11-08
Manitowoc, WI
| Re: Greedy so & sos maybe it's the "I'm too good to ever use a service i pay for." people who are screwing it up for the "I paid for it therefore I will use it to the best of my ability" people like me.
I suppose you are a member of a health club you never go to and own a cottage by a lake somewhere that you never go to either
It's paid for, it's legal, so make the best of it!
[text was edited by author 2002-11-09 01:16:08] | |
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dsl_boy
join:2000-11-21
| Thanks for your input Thanks so much for your thoughts. But one would think that Emusic could explain what the limits are (rather than having secret, apparently changing limits) or at least could answer e-mail and return phone calls. But that is apparently beyond the ability of this highly flawed (and undoubtedly, soon-to-be-discontinued) service. | |
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Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: You greedy f*cks are ruining it for everyone else said by Pent  :
Cry all you want about the unlimited policy-Its greedy f*cks like you who always ruin it for the rest of us.
Exactly how are they "ruin (sic) it for the rest of us"? | |
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TangleEyes
join:2002-03-29
Akron, OH
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Greed? LOL Where does greed come in anyway? Their site plainly states unlimited downloading and burning of music. But just in case you didn't get that:
unlimited
SYLLABICATION: un·lim·it·ed
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: n-lm-td KEY
ADJECTIVE: 1. Having no restrictions or controls: an unlimited travel ticket.
2. Having or seeming to have no boundaries; infinite: an unlimited horizon.
3. Without qualification or exception; absolute: unlimited self-confidence
So much for greed. | |
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DSLTech
join:2000-12-30
San Jose, CA
| He's right.
If we all act like parasites on a generous host, the party will only last until either there's nothing left or the host is no longer practical.
In this particular situation, it seems people are downloading for the purpose of redistributing. This may be an all-you-can-eat buffet, but you cant fill up a to-go box on your way out, as well.
Have some fucking sense of community. | |
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some guy$
Mommy What's Irony?
join:2002-11-08
Manitowoc, WI
| Re: You greedy f*cks are ruining it for everyone else maybe you guys don't realize this, but music isn't "consumed"
it's not food at a buffet-i can enjoy the albums at will, and i can do so for the next 60 years if i want to--their argument of "you could never use that much" is completely specious (unless you are 95 years old and on life support)
this is the internet, not a buffet, unfortunately for them the internet is open 24/7 | |
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Archivis
Your Daddy
Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: You greedy f*cks are ruining it for everyone else DSLTech is right.
Although e-music really messed up and should have explained the limits from the beginning, a company like that can't survive on the "All you can eat buffet" deal.
The business can't survive with those who load up a "to-go" bag on their all you can eat buffet. It's simple economics.
At the same time, E-music shouldn't advertise unlimited unless they mean unlimited... not some hidden amount.
E-music messed up big time... you can't blame it on the community, but if the community were to use it like the services were intended for, there probably wouldn't be a problem.
Kinda like a drive driver accident. If the victim wasn't driving at the same place and the same time then they wouldn't have gotten hurt. Is it the victim's fault? Asbolutely not.
I place sole responsibility of this problem on e-music.
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some guy$
Mommy What's Irony?
join:2002-11-08
Manitowoc, WI
| Re: You greedy f*cks are ruining it for everyone else said by DSLTech :
In this particular situation, it seems people are downloading for the purpose of redistributing. This may be an all-you-can-eat buffet, but you cant fill up a to-go box on your way out, as well.
Have some fucking sense of community.
napster was a community--sharing was necessary to its survival. Emusic is a company--you buy things from them. Do you hang out at Wal-Mart(insert store of choice) when you aren't buying stuff? Do you feel they deserve more than just your money?
no
They offered a service, people pay for it, and will do their best to get their money. People want value. It's not like Emusic will run out of music--they are files, and the originals won't evaporate from overdownloading. They are owned by Vivendi, who owns the rights to most of the songs they offer (do you think they are paying rolalties to themselves?) Tons of it is music from the 20's and 30's that's unprofitable to say the least.
They aren't losing anything. | |
| | jekler
join:2000-11-23
Cincinnati, OH
clubs:
| I agree that the "greedy" ruin it for everyone else. I don't agree on who the greedy parties are. The greedy, in my opinion, is the company that offers unlimited and doesn't deliver. Either you offer unlimited and deliver unlimited or you offer x mb downloads over y period of time. If there are limits to the offer, state them clearly. As for the buffet analogy, I think it's entirely inappropriate. A buffet has clear-cut limits. You can eat as much as you can while you're there. An internet music download doesn't have a clear-cut stipulation as to when your stay is finished.
This type of underhanded dealing is the precise reason I've absolutely avoided joining ANY online pay-per-view/pay-for-content services. Companies on the internet have a long history of offering more than they deliver. When you order a program from Pay-Per-View (television) they don't cut you off halfway through the film and say "Well we didn't expect you to watch the WHOLE thing!" You're given a clear definition of what you will get. You pay the price, you get to view the movie once. (Note: this is just an example, not taking into consideration other packages that might be offered)
On the internet you pay the price and you don't necessarily get what was offered and when the company retracts the offer, other consumers (Original Poster in this topic for example) actually think this is acceptable business.
If I have a collection of CDs for sale, and you pay me for them. Is it good business for me to send you half because I don't think you're really going to listen to all of them? Are you being greedy if you want the other half of the collection? | |
| | jekler
join:2000-11-23
Cincinnati, OH
clubs: | Another note:
I think the best deal for the consumer is, we can give them unlimited access to our bank accounts for their unlimited amount of service.
(unlimited access to my bank account is limited to 1 cent.) | |
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cmptrblder
join:2001-01-16
Altoona, PA
| LETS TORCH OUR CD'S!!!!!! HEY!!!!!! LET'S TAKE ALL OUR CD'S COLLECTIONS, MELT THEM INTO GLOBS AND SHIP THEM BACK AND GET THE 3.5 MILLION USERS THAT ARE USUALLY ON KAAZA UP TO 6 MILLION. THAT OUTTA ADD SOME GAS TO THE FIRE, AND WHEN MY LOCAL GRUB JOINT HAS A ALL YOU CAN EAT FEAST GOING, I DON'T EAT CRAP ALL DAY JUST TO LOAD UP. WHY? DUH.....ITS A ALL YOU CAN EAT FOR ONE PRICE DEAL. I SUPPORT YOU EMUSIC MEMBERS 100 PERCENT, BURN A BRA OR SOMETHING.........  | |
| jmcclellan
join:2000-12-12
North York, ON
| a-la-bell All I can say is - what a bunch of idiots.
That applies to all these pinheads who sell 'unlimited' widgets with limits. They should all be sued for every penny they're worth, and then some.
Reminds me alot of Bell Sympatico HSE's lovely surprise.. (hey customers, we're gonna charge you an outrageous extra fee if you go over the puny limit on your unlimited service!)
I can't believe how many business idiots place no value on customer appreciation and reference advertising. The loss in business they will experience due to people dumping and avoiding them because of their petty actions will be far greater than what it might have cost them to simply eat the loss on those high-usage users.
Same thing with the stupid labels.. anyone with a brain knows that if you cut the price in half on a popular commodity such as CD's, you'll probably gain MORE than half again in sales.. therefore earn greater profit! But no.. | |
| Think Again
join:2002-11-09
Palo Alto, CA
|  When Runaway Supply and Demand Hurts small artists
Whenever an illegal service like Gnutella and also a legal service like Emusic (them too are fucks) advertises "unlimited downloading" of cheap or free major-label content, then us Indies (many undiscovered ones who are just as good or far better) Lose our livelihoods because you flock to their sites instead of ours. It's not the quality of our music, but the easily open availaility of illegal pop radio material elsewhere, which has visibly reduced our site hits where we were once popular.
Prior to Napster, we used to have an audience. So Locke's morality-neutral "Supply and Demand" you learned in schools isn't a very ethical mentality (when left to itself) if the legal property of others isn't protected as promised, in Sectn 8 Article 8 of the US Constitution.
What happens is that we Indies are forced to now offer our own wares and even live performances (in clubs, weddings, churches, etc.) for free or at a bigger loss than before, because your freebie mentality thinks that music we spent $190,000+ in debts to make comes out of nowhere. This piracy has to stop, because it hurts more people than you think--not just the big name acts. If you all don't LEARN to patronize your local artist instead of just the majors, how in the hell do you think great and Innovative music will trive against the filth from major labels?
And some of the best minds in classical & crossover music get hurt too, by this fixation on free pop music. You shoot yourselves in the foot by missing out on the intellectual stimulation and inspiration that such music can give you. Is it any wonder why half the population cannot think past the 3rd grade?
There's a guy here (clrankin) who is a Senior Consultant for Booze Hamilton on Defense contracts in Virginia, near the Pentagon. I know this guy makes real dough, yet he bitches about Emusic over a measly $10 a month, which he can readily afford. It is fucks like him who, at church, say they don't want to give a dime in the basket pay the organist, even though he makes bukku bucks. What a selfish bastard.
Now he has publically admitted he uses "Kazaa Lite, Shareaza..." Good for him--he can now be prosecuted to garnish his wages for violating Federal Copyright Law. (see article below). He can even lose his job, once he's tainted as a white-collar Felon as he desrves. All we have to do is subpoena his ISP and take him to court--and he is a good target because he makes money.
So even though many major labels and Emusic are jerks, I have to side with them against you. Because you hurt indies, merely by flocking to the illegal or cheapo download sites, and missing out on the truly great material that exists elsewhere.
Statutory Federal penalties are min $750 to $30,000 PER SONG for violators. Good luck, clrankin and the rest of you.
Happy the day when bayTSP helps even us Indies to go after all of you Napsterheads and your parents and schools in court, for collaborating on Federal Copyright violation. It's already happening now. Remember: 'Thou shalt not steal'. See:
»www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulp···919.html | |
| | mitska
join:2001-12-25
Sarasota, FL
·Comcast
| Re: When Runaway Supply and Demand Hurts small artists I think the subject is people purchasing a service sold to them as unlimited, i.e an "all you can eat mp3" buffet. Afterwards being dropped because they "ate all they could".
I do not condone piracy or stealing, but I don't think people PAYING to download mp3s is a bad thing. Quite the opposite actually, it would stimulate people to buy REAL cds on hearing a band they like. Not these soon to be everywhere audio disks that do not meet minimum cd spec and won't play in your computer or car.
Independent artists always have had a rough time with the financial end of things. That's the way it is currently unless you make a large breakthrough. I should know, I am one. Anything that heads people down the path leading away from excessive file sharing of music is a plus for ind. artists, it is just a pity that a crappy service like this one is in effect, pushing people back to p2p instead of being content with simply making a killing...they need to make a HUGE killing I guess. | |
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strfox18
Nothing To See Here
Premium
join:2001-08-15
Lake Havasu City, AZ
clubs:
| Re: When Runaway Supply and Demand Hurts small artists If the CD industry would sell there product at a resonable price then more people would buy it. When CD burners came out and people actually found out how much a CD costs to make they (and I) were pissed. How could they possibly think that they could continue to sell CD's at $15 a pop?
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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one.-Albert Einstein | |
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limeygit
Everybody Wang-Chung Tonight
join:2001-02-17
Nearest Bar
| "You f**ks think your innocent downloading hurts no one. Did you ever stop to think that the sum effects of 90+ million of you flocking en masse (like cows) to Illegal file share sites Steals money away from the many great smaller Indie Artists who used to earn a decent livelihood at mp3.com & elsewhere before Napster came out?"
I have dealt with more true indie bands than anyone else on this site, unless I am very mistaken. Literally thousands, from all over the world. »www.indiemonkey.com
Very few of those have any issue with file sharing, it is not hurting them, people are not downloading, via P2P clients, songs from unknown struggling bands. More is the pity.
Lets break it down.
People buy CDs based on one of two things, name recognition, they know, and have enjoyed the artists previous work. Or song recognition, they have heard one, or more, of the songs on the CD and like them.
True indie artists are stumped on both of these, no radio or TV stations play unknown bands. That makes it very, very hard to get either kind of recognition. Getting your music on the net and listened to by people is the only major avenue an unsigned or self-released artists has. As such most of them would be happy to get their music out and traded because it relates eventually to sales, sales they would not have got if they music was not out there at all.
Again this is information gained over the last five years (before that but the net wasn't relevant) talking to bands from as far away as Norway, or Australia, or Japan, or well just about anywhere where people have access to cheap studios and CD duplication.
In fact I think I speak for the vast majority of these artists when I say go out and seek unknown music, no matter where it is from, download it, listen to it, and buy the CD. If you are really interested in supporting indie artists vist »cdbaby.com which has a superb group of CDs, nearly all at $10, of which $9 goes back directly to the artists. A true supporter of all bands, and all styles.
If you are struggling and losing money as an Indie Artists, well guess what, so are nearly every band I talk to. It has nothing to do with Joe Q Public downloading files, it has to do with the corporate mentality of the media industry in this country, and most of the world. It has to do with the lack of adventure breed into generations of consumers.
If a file of yours is out and downloaded 100 times and only leads to 1 sale, that is 1 more than you would have got anyway. Your arguement is invalid when applied to true indie artists. It does apply to the big boys, but you don't need to worry about that till you sign that deal. MP3.com actual does more sales than it used to before the advancement of P2P, the problem lies with the increased amount of bands using it squeezing the marginal acts again.
OK, essay over, I just had to reply to your post. If you truly feel that way, I think you are mistaken, but you are entitled to your opinion, but it is not one shared by the majority of unsigned and self-released artists.
Oh, and really do check out »www.cdbaby.com if you are unaware of them, a lot more real than the ipotastic MP3.com...
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Taking you to Funky Town since 1999! | |
| | | Think Again
join:2002-11-09
Palo Alto, CA
| Freebie mentality is for Dickheads without a clue Thanks for your thoughtful reply.
However, yours only considers Indie Bands (NOT CLASSICAL ARTISTS, ORGANISTS, etc), and what "they" think about downloading. That's like asking "the people" to vote whether killing children is right or wrong, and then go to the Pope, and say, "We think it's OK to kill Children or steal from them, because we do it too."
Yours borders on, in fact, is, moral relativity...the quintessential heresy of mankind. It essentially says, "Do what you want so long as you 'think' it hurts no one'"
You also very lazily DISMISS the indisputable laws of SUPPLY AND DEMAND-- if there is free stuff offered out there all of a sudden flooding the market, and 90 million people spend hours there instead of at your legit site, then there is no question that 100 million hours diverted away from legit sites HURTS SMALL ARTISTS more than Big artists. Your so-called 'indie' bands are just too ****ing dunceheads (and so are you) to realize that.
Your "argument" that so too are everyone else losing money is pig manure. That's been the case since the beginning of music. But this FILE-SHAREING mentality just made it WORSE for small artists (esp. organists, etc. who are regularly asked online to DONATE their recording to a school TV project, for instance, for FREE, simply because he has to compete now with all the illegal FREE shit out there) ie: HIS BARGAINING POWER IS REDUCED, because content producers (TV stations, radio advertisers, etc.) who want to use/license his tracks, or consumers who want to "consume" his tracks, will increasingly tell him (more than before) "Let us have your track free, or we'll just go somewhere else and you'll lose our business."
I've been there, and you haven't. so shut up already, wipe.
What a bunghole. Eat it and die. | |
| vampyre10
join:2002-05-18
Albany, NY
|  TYPICAL!! HOW ABOUT....
As soon as you put up a service and realize that many people want to USE it.... the company offering the service has to change the original deal to ass fu** it's customers.
Man, has anyone ever thought that recorded music was originally put in our hands to rob every last cent from our pockets.... no matter what media form it comes in!!>???
Millions and millions being spent on copy protection.... the cheapest, most dependable copy protection there is was already done and passed by!!! Remember vinyl???
Nobody could make an exactly duplicate of that! (like cds)
But we still recorded it onto other devices and shared it... just like we will do with all these other million dollar media methods....!!
Nobody ever invented the vinyl burner!
Down with the RIAA!
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I will never, ever, buy another CD again. EVER! I don't care if I have to buy a canary to sing to me because of the RIAA trying to stop MP3s. I will NEVER buy another CD again.-------"Its so easy no wonder its number 1!"... Stupidity for the masses. | |
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gigahurtz
Premium
join:2001-10-20
Palm Coast, FL
clubs: | This is why I would never pay for Mp3s... This is exactly why I would never pay for a Mp3 service.. its a waste of money and isn't worth the headache. Just get KaZaA or WinMX and download it for free. Even when you try and do it legally, you get the runaround and screwed in the end. | |
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some guy$
Mommy What's Irony?
join:2002-11-08
Manitowoc, WI | Re: This is why I would never pay for Mp3s... you haven't downloaded mp3's until you have used direct connect-- mandatory minimums keep leeches away, and moderators get rid of the leeches that slip thru the cracks
tons of full albums, movies, everything, and no fakes | |
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dogman_USA
@telocity.com
| use credit card dispute they might have reasons for what they are doing but it's clearly illegal. it is also false advertisement.
first step is to dispute any charges with your credit card company because wrongful termination of your account means you didn't get the service or product you paid for..thus you are entitled to a refund. then consider joining together in a class action. companies want to have their cake and eat it too. they will do this until challenged legally. find a good class action group and band together and protect your rights and stand up for the principals this country was founded on. good luck everyone. place complaints on online services like eopinion. you can also complain to the BBB..if they are BBB registered they're gonna hear from the BBB asap. you can also look up your states consumer advocate center in your state of residency and write to them. they will open a file and may or may not be able to help. | |
| EngMN
join:2002-07-02
Saint Paul, MN | Change your offering, EMusic! If they advertise unlimited downloads, they should deliver. If they aren't going to provide that, they need to change the "spirit" of their advertising so that the consumer knows what they're paying for. Sounds like bait and switch to me. | |
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pchdude
@cox.net
| EVERYBODY download at least two albums at 9PM Start at the same time, let's see how much bandwidth they got.
Sign up for $9.99. Get unlimited downloads. (But we reserve the right to enforce unstated limits after we start collecting your money.)
Sounds like a bait and switch to me.
Anyone considered hiring a lawyer? | |
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some guy$
Mommy What's Irony?
join:2002-11-08
Manitowoc, WI | Re: EVERYBODY download at least two albums at 9PM i downloaded 90 instead--is that ok? | |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| Re: EVERYBODY download at least two albums at 9PM I'm surprised you could FIND even 2 albums of any interest to download. I tried emusic's trial account and only found one that I liked. I cancelled the same day after literally going thru the entire artist line up looking for stuff that I didn't already own, and didn't find anything to grab my attention from either known or unknown bands. | |
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neutral
faith in the future
Premium
join:2001-08-04
Ringgold, GA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Question for people who have gotten kicked off.... They don't try to keep billing you do they?
I just signed up. I can't decide if I should either
A) download the hell out of the site, assuming I will get kicked off anyway,
or
B) try to take it easy so I don't get kicked off and get the whole year.
I have NO problem doing A, but I'm afraid they would try to bill me out for the entire year?
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gromm
@cipherkey.com
| For the unwashed masses... It's worth noting that say, 5 gigabytes a month is roughly 500 mp3's if each one is 10 megs. To those of us who *aren't* sucking down as many mp3's as possible in order to burn them to CD and sell them at a huge profit, this is more music than we're going to listen to in any given month. I don't know about you, but I would think it mighty odd if someone was downloading that much from my site.
And it's also worth noting that if you say "unlimited downloads," a good 90% or more of the people out there would think that that 5 gig limit is close enough to make no odds. And it certainly doesn't make for a good marketing pitch to say "download up to 5 gigabytes!" when way too many people who use the internet don't even know what a gigabyte *is*. | |
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ScottMo
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-15
Stony Brook, NY
| Re: For the unwashed masses... While I normally back businesses against people who try & abuse the system, "unlimited" means no limit, not "a really big limit".
Marketing pitch or not, it is simply is misleading to say "unlimited" when the company fully intends to limit. Rather than dumb things down for the "unwashed masses", why not clarify in the TOS what is meant by "unlimited" or use the qualifier "nearly unlimited".
I think I've used up my quotes for the week... | |
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ScottWagnon
Maximized Potential
join:2001-03-18
New Milford, NJ
| ok. just change the letter fine. don't say anything publicly. just politely write them asking them politely to stop, telling them the true reason why, and apologizing for the inconvience.
cancel the service to the people that use it too much. but be honest and polite to those individuals about it.
technically the advertisement is false. they should say "almost unlimited downloading."
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don't forget where you came from...Your soul is richer than what it appears to be. | |
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PloKoon
Bumper Sticker Doctrine
join:2002-01-06
Cherry Hill, NJ
| Better Business Bureau
»bbb.org/bbbcomplaints/SelectComp···eSet.asp | |
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livininarizona
Premium
join:2001-08-05
Merced, CA
clubs:
| Acting as a community toward a service? HA!
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some guy$
Mommy What's Irony?
join:2002-11-08
Manitowoc, WI
| Victory? i got this today
"Dear EMusic Subscriber,
I'd like to offer a personal apology for some of our recent communication
with you and other EMusic customers. Over the past several weeks,
we have implemented some new tools in an effort to identify subscribers
that are using EMusic in ways it was not intended. It's important
for us to do this to ensure the long-term viability of EMusic --
so we can continue to offer our service to you and the rest of our 70,000 loyal subscribers.
Many EMusic subscribers recently received a letter outlining unusual
activity in their accounts. After personally reading through every
email sent to us in response, it's clear to me that we need to rethink
our approach. While we need to identify customers who are not using
the service as intended, we do not want to do this at the expense of passionate EMusic users.
I want to be as clear as possible about what we consider abusive
activity and how we will manage this going forward. Although EMusic
is an "unlimited" service, there have to be some restrictions on this policy.
EMusic is similar to a buffet advertised as "all you can eat."
For the restaurant to be successful, it has to have reasonable limitations
that apply to people that stay too long, eat more than their fair
share -- or waste food. The service is indeed unlimited for the
vast majority of the restaurant's customers whose actions never
draw attention. The restaurant reserves the right to deny service to any customer.
EMusic was designed to be an interactive service for personal use
and enjoyment. Our intent is to allow our subscribers unlimited
access to an amount of music that they can reasonably use. We did
not design the service for people who want to download music simply
to collect it or to fill up their hard drives. This would be not
be responsible for us as a business or provide incentive for our
label partners to make their music available.
Obviously, the definition of "reasonable" varies by user and many
of the responses I have read are simply requesting some definition.
Based on our current analysis of typical subscriber behavior, we
believe that downloading more than 2,000 tracks in a 30-day period
is not reasonable for personal use. Using a 12-track album as the
average, this represents more than 165 albums and over 10,000 minutes
of music. Less than 1% our subscribers ever approach these levels.
If, for any reason, you do not find this explanation satisfactory,
please use the following link: »help.emusic.com/cu/index.cgi to cancel your
account. We'll immediately end your subscription - even if you are
still in your commitment period - and provide you a refund for the current month.
Again, I apologize for any inconvenience or frustration we may have
caused. I can assure you that our team is extremely passionate about
continuing to provide you with the best MP3 subscription service possible.
Best regards,
Steve Grady
General Manager, EMusic.com"
i think they were reading this forum
so here is the answer--165 albums a month | |
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nerys
| Spirit is everything Oddly enough I agree with emusic on this.
the spirit of the rules is all that matters. if you abuse generous rules thats your problem.
they are NOT concerned with bandwidth. they have to pay a ROYALTY on each and every song you download. when you download far more than is reasonable they lose money on you.
they want to allow unimited "normal" usage. the tos is supposed to define that. "spirt" of the rules etc..
the os says for you to enjoy the music you get unlimited access. not for you to stockpile the music you want to listen too for the next ten years you get unlimited access.
get it ?
download what you want NOW download what you want later LATER. that is how this service is supposed to work.
they make money by you casually downloading what you are interested.
stop being assholes. its a war you CAN NOT and SHOULD NOT be able to win.
the only purpose is to make money. if they can not make money they are not going to "submit" to your greed and give in they are going to go out of buisness !! DUH !!!
support them don;t burn them.
the idea is if you want todownlod a few albums a week fine but if you start leeching you hurt them and that hurts everyone.
use your head and don;t be greedy !! if you LIKE getting REASONABLE unlimited music downloads for $9.99 then play nice and they will be able to hang around IE make money. so get a few albmus this week and a few next week instead of a zillion now.
Chris Taylor
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I knew working for a credit card co. would come in handy some day!