Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | It's a great idea, but...
I won't be interested. I'd much rather pay $3.99 to get the same movie from DirecTV pay per view with Dolby Digital 5.1 surround. |
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RenderXP
Disturbed
join:2001-02-15
Georgetown, KY
 ·AT&T Southeast
| I wonder
Ok if you read the F.A.Q. the movie automatically deletes itself after 24 hours. I guess it will take roughly half that time before someone figures out a way to "crack" this system so one can watch the film over and over again.
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | <shocked>But that would be ILLEGAL</shocked> |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| reply to Eat Me
Re: It's a great idea, but...
Well, and on a nice couch as well.....
These service won't take off until broadband enabled homes and living rooms take off.
I have a nice desk and chair in my office, but I still don't want to watch a 2 hour movie there when I've got a 5.1 DVD system in the living room.... |
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MrTangent
join:2001-12-28
Earth | Uggh
Windows Media or Real Media?
No thanks. |
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
Premium
join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
| Who would pay $5?
When you can get half those DVD's from super discount retailers like deepdiscountdvd for $12-$15.
This is going to go over like a fart in a spacesuit.
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MrTangent
join:2001-12-28
Earth
| Windows only. You other untermensch need not apply
In addition, the computer must be running Windows 98, 2000, ME or XP operating systems, with 2GB of free hard disk space available. Nothing like excluding everyone else that uses any other OS.
This thing will fail fantastically. Mark my words. Like another poster mentioned, who wants to watch a small, pixelized, compressed video on their computer that probably will only be in stereo? I'd rather just *shock*LEAVE*/shock* my house for ten minutes and go rent a movie and watch it with better resolution, convenience in the living room where I'd be infinitely more comfortable. |
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Speakeasy
| could work!
All you negative-nancies...
I think this is a fine idea. $2-$4 for a movie is just fine. No late fees. Blockbuster is killing this lazy-ass on late fees.
We don't do NetFlix yet cause we don't have a DVD player.
I have video-out on several of my video cards. I have X10 send/receivers to get that and the audio signals to the living room. We already watch clips from AtomFilmz and such that way. Biggest hassle is having to get up to pause for pee/snack breaks (though a laptop with pcAnywhere or Terminal Services would solve that).
Best thing about this - NO MONTHLY FEES. I'll be checking this out this weekend, of not sooner. I don't need stinkin' dolby sound, don't need super-crisp visuals. As long as I can see and hear the story and be entertained, the convenience and cost is just fine. This kills PPV, IMO, cause it's at MY convenience.
I like it. I will use it.
KM |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
|  Close but no cigar....
While I think this is good in theory, in practice this first cut is unlikely to make a good impression.
As much as some folks may like viewing films on their PCs...like in college dorms...most prefer viewing film on large screens with 5.1 surround.
I would bet that this good intentioned but somewhat flawed model will end up failing at the outset and yet again be another reason why no online rental or purchasing system will work since OBVIOUSLY consumers would rather download their film from P2P instead of legit services. The MPAA will say -- "See, told you so"
K.
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phantasm99
@adelphia.net
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Re: I wonder
Since this movie will just delete itself within 24 hours of when you press play... Could you then just burn it to a cd without clicking play and then either just watch it from the cd or drag and drop it back onto your system so its not running it from the cd. So then the copy on your system would delete itself after the 24 hour period but then you still have the nice clean copy on cd.... Sure it may be a hassle but it seems a viable way to keep the movie for good. |
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ergibbs
To Be Free
Premium,ExMod 2001-05
join:2001-03-07
on the ocean
| It might work
There's a reason people are buying DVD players for their computers - they want to be able to watch movies on their PCs. WMP has a full screen mode which works quite well.
Obviously the theory that "you can buy the DVD for $12-$14" doesn't hold water since movie renting from Blockbuster, etc. is big business.
This is just the next step in creating the virtually-connected home. Download the movie via the 'Net, watch it on your TV. Just as with any technology, you have to start with small steps first. I'd be surprised if this wasn't a huge success.
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to Count Hogula$
Re: Who would pay $5?
quote:
When you can get half those DVD's from super discount retailers like deepdiscountdvd for $12-$15.
People already pay that price or slightly less for pay per view movies and blockbuster rentals. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
| reply to MrTangent
Re: Windows only. You other untermensch need not apply
quote:
This thing will fail fantastically. Mark my words. Like another poster mentioned, who wants to watch a small, pixelized, compressed video on their computer that probably will only be in stereo?
Uhhh.... 2GB of space certainly won't yield a "small pixelized" video, and most consumer digital video (DVD, DBS, Dig cable) is compressed anyway. If they can provide decent quality video with Dolby/DTS 5.1 sound, I might be tempted to use this in my home theater as an alternative to movie rentals or pay per view.
I personally think this service is way too far ahead of its time. When the PC becomes a standard piece of home theater equipment, maybe then. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to KoolMoe
Re: could work!
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This kills PPV, IMO, cause it's at MY convenience.
Does your cable co. offer VoD? VoD is what will kill PPV, not this. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| reply to ergibbs
Re: It might work
The problem is, even many of the technologically swift people I know don't have TV out video cards, or the capability of delivering the film to a TV, and again, other that teens who are downloading 700meg Divx rips for free, there's not a huge market of legitimate customers who want to sit at their desk for 2 hours watching a movie, when they get a better experience in the theatre or the living room....
Besides there's too much competition. Not only can customers already rent a film in a store or on-line, but they can order one via pay perview without moving their but from the couch, or watch one of the 40 film channels most digital line-ups already offer.
Until there's a broader adoption of things like living room servers that serve MP3's and film via broadband, this is going to be a fringe operation. And I fail to see how they can compete with cable providers.
While they may just be staking their claim for the future, it would appear to me like an effort to bypass the middle men (cable, satellite, theatres) well before its time.
I imagine they expect heavy losses, and it will probably break even if they don't spend too much on advertising....but "a huge success" isn't terribly likely. |
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
Premium
join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
| reply to Eat Me
Re: Who would pay $5?
said by Eat Me  :
quote:
When you can get half those DVD's from super discount retailers like deepdiscountdvd for $12-$15.
People already pay that price or slightly less for pay per view movies and blockbuster rentals.
Yeah...they pay less for the movie and get to watch it on a screen 50X larger with better sound and playback control. Until people start using PC devices with their HDTV monitors...their plan will go NOWHERE.
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ergibbs
To Be Free
Premium,ExMod 2001-05
join:2001-03-07
on the ocean
| reply to Karl Bode
Re: It might work
Good points; however, teens can afford movies like this, too. If you capture an audience while it's young, you have a better chance of retaining it as it grows older. Things like the networked home and single routers that control an entire house are not too far off. Some devices are already in production. Here's one article (pdf format) on the possibilities. I believe that RCA has a device out now, too, that allows you to network PCs with TVs (I was trying to find it, but can't think of the name right now).
The problem with renting on-line through netflix is that you have to wait a couple of days to get the movie. To go to Blockbuster, you have to move your butt from your house and concern yourself with making sure the movie is back so you don't get charged late fees. PPV is extremely limited in what it shows and the movie channels are not too much better.
Again, it's the process of taking small steps to lead the consumer where you want the consumer to go.
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elias
Premium,VIP
join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
clubs:
| Well, At Least They're Doing Something...
RIAA take note.
At least the movie industry is trying to jump on it.
I'm not sure how this 24 hour delete itself crap is going to work... I mean, I'm sure you can just burn it to a CD and be over with it.
But hey, it's something.
-- Elias
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raymondh
@65.100.x.x | 2-gigs and no DD?
A 2-gig Divx encoded movie can easily contain 5.1 DD almost DVD quality. Not to mention it can be played on other OS's.
Me thinks they picked the wrong format.... |
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randysavage0
join:2002-04-16
Fayetteville, AR | reply to ergibbs
Re: It might work
I agree that it is a small step.... a baby step... pretty much a laughable matter.
If this business plan works, I am starting a new country on a deserted island. |
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