Maxo
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| More like broadband quicksand.
As long as broadband keeps raising there prices and threatening to offer less service (i.e. byte caps) the industry will won't catch on. Computers didn't really catch on until they started getting to be around $500 instead of $2k and dial-up didn't catch on until they lowered the price to about $15/mo with unlimited access did that ever catch on. It's always been cheaper with more service that made it grow. Not higher prices, lesser service. Until then the world will be wired at 56k.
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tschmidt
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| Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it
We have two competing forces.
The technology and communication industry see widespread deployment of broadband as the driver of new business opportunity. Unknown artists are also in this camp because high speed digital communication allows them to bypass the gatekeepers of the current system. But since they are by “unknown” no one really cares about the next generation of artistic expression.
vs.
The 5 mega media corporations represented the RIAA and MPAA that are deathly afraid of losing control of the distribution channel. They and their bought and paid for legislators in Washington will do there utmost to kill high speed digital communication as a threat to legacy business models.
The buggy whip manufactures are taking on the infant automobile industry and they may possible win. |
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boooo
@205.232.x.x | Sony is a member (i.e. they ARE) of the RIAA and MPAA. What this means is they have DRM measures nearly in place to stop piracy. So, now they will "allow" broadband to be recognized as having a future. Or something to that effect. |
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tschmidt
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Milford, NH | A lot of Japanese companies are kind of schizophrenic about DRM. The content guys want to lock it down; the hardware guys want to sell widgets. |
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thecapn20003
join:2002-01-15
Brownsburg, IN | reply to tschmidt
Sure then can sue...but how can they force them to show up in court?...and then how do you enforce any court ruling?...This should be fun to watch. |
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KrK
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| ...More like a trickle..
I wish there was a Tsunami of broadband coming.... These days, it seems more like a trickle, which is sinking into the dry, hard ground.
Either that, or it's walled away behind a 'last mile' Dam to keep the people from getting any decent amount.
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Sarge_0321
join:2002-06-27
San Diego, CA | Coming from Japan..
Is their Chief actually from Japan..?
Where they actually have "high-speed" internet?
Maybe this guy has broadband pipe dreams about America.
Hell.. if he can help push speeds here like they have in Japan then fantastic. |
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when you think
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Re: ...More like a trickle..
there will be a tsunami that could wash the industry away unless industry-wide open standards are not targeted by big/blote/biz....
i don't really need broadband to read the news much less a TV guide... Sony, humm, oh yeah, we're having fun now...
a flood/tsunami is comming, its the internets blood flowing out to the b/b/b, surely not money today.... |
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kba4
join:2001-10-23
Canton, OH
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Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it
i'd have to say Sony is a rare breed; they're in both 'camps' and are innovating their way through to the future. other than their failed sdmi, sony has really been one of the only CE companies i know of that thinks so progressively. either way they're making money (selling media (movies/music) or selling consumer electronics), so unless they pull some new drm crap now, their future looks bright to me.
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BrianDamage
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Agreed. I'm quite sure that the MPAA/RIAA will do everything they can to stop this idea dead in it's tracks.
BTW, this is the same convention where Mike Powell praised his TiVo, calling it "God's machine".
Can you imagine the ruffling of feathers with the MPAA's ilk?
LMAO........
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jose3030
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Manassas, VA | Broadband Dreams?
I dont have broadband dreams.
Does anyone else? |
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NOVA_Guy
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Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it
said by tschmidt  :
We have two competing forces.
The technology and communication industry see widespread deployment of broadband as the driver of new business opportunity....
vs.
The 5 mega media corporations represented the RIAA and MPAA that are deathly afraid of losing control of the distribution channel....
You may have framed the competing sides to this debate properly, but you have forgotten the relative sizes of the two industries.
The revenue of all technology companies combined far outweighs the combined revenue of all RIAA member companies. Let's face it: if the technology sector formed an alliance similar to the RIAA and decided that DRM was a bad thing, Rosen and her thugs would be handily defeated.
I believe that the rumblings we heard last year from the technology industry that were somewhat directed at the music industry is just a first. I think that when the technology industry-- and consumers-- get a full picture of what the MPAA and RIAA want, there will be a massive cry about fair use rights. I just hope this full picture doesn't come into focus too late for most stakeholders involved.
The RIAA and MPAA aren't necessarily opposed to everyone having a broadband connection; they are just opposed to the free movement of their "property" without their explicit "permission" at any time. If both organizations had their way, this would likely include the total control of content delivered over radio, television, pay-per-view, movie rentals, and anything else media-related. I can easily see them pushing for a world in which content is encrypted and digitally delivered to a device in your home, which checks to ensure that you are authorized to view the delivered content prior to showing it.
The MPAA would finally be able to prevent people from copying movies when they rent them. The RIAA would possibly be able to prevent people from copying songs off the radio. And traditional non-copy-protected CDs, of course, would not be playable on the new "trusted" DRM-compliant systems. Hacking any of these new systems, or supplying help, technical information, etc. about these systems would be deemed a crime. Think it can't be made so? Just look at the crap that was pulled with DivX.
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NOVA_Guy
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Re: Broadband Dreams?
I don't imagine you'd be having too many broadband dreams with the type of service that Cox Communications provides to the Northern Virginia area...
Seriously, though, I know of too many people who do indeed have broadband dreams-- and that's about as close as they're coming to getting it. It's too bad that this country hasn't seen greater roll-out of broadband service. IMHO, aside from profit and greed, there's no reason that broadband service can't be delivered to 100% of the country. Don't want to roll a bunch of cable for last-mile connections? Fine-- go wireless.
And for those of us who do have broadband connections, the prices we pay are still way too high for the service we receive. Where else have you ever heard of "best effort" service being acceptable? Never in my 28 years have I ever seen a contract anywhere else that essentially states "You're buying a 768/768 SDSL connection, but if we don't deliver it you'll get whatever we can give you... However you'll still pay us for 768/768." Or how about the cable company contracts? "You can have a high speed, always on connection, but you can't do anything with it. (no servers, shut down file sharing apps, download limits, etc)" In the case of many cable providers that's even false advertising, as the connection was not what I would consider high-speed and was certainly not always on.
Yes, I do have broadband dreams. I dream of the time that we can all afford to have at least a T1 (maybe T3) speed connection come to each of our homes and deliver the services that I as a broadband user crave: video on demand; clear, smooth voice (and live video picture) over IP for telephone calls to friends and family; secure, instant access to all connected devices installed in my home (thermostat, lights, security cameras, etc.); high speed game servers for fast and furious online gaming. I dream of the time that download restrictions are non-existant for all. I dream of a time that all users can run whatever servers they please-- not just those on DSL.
The list goes on and on. You all know what I'm talking about. This is the kind of stuff that will fuel broadband for years to come. This is the kind of stuff that America should be at the forefront of, developing ahead of the rest of the world. Unfortunately, due to greed, poor planning, and more greed, we are not. Call me crazy, but I dream of a time when high speed is truly high speed, and Internet use is without restriction.
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vknight775
join:2001-12-08
Etobicoke, ON
|  More like a drip
Personally, I can't see myself becoming more of a broadband fan in the future. The net was built for people to exchange ideas and information. Then, corporations took it away from us, and use it to sell us things at every turn. They have this "if you don't view our ads, don't use our service" mentality that just makes me sick.
Now the broadband monopoly is putting the squeeze on us.
- "No, you can't run FTP/Web Server/Game Hosting/PTP servers on OUR network, although you pay us for your "always on" connection."
- WTF? Then what CAN I do??
- "You can buy products from our TRUSTED PARTNERS."
- But I don't want anything from your partners. I simply want to communicate with like-minded people.
- "Too bad. You have 24 hours to make a purchase, or we're closing your broadband account. You'll be forced to pay out the remainder of your service contract."
Okay, this was a little dramatic, but it's not that far-fetched.
I need to end this rant. Bottom line is, as the handful of major broadband providers continue to squeeze the pipes (and our wallets), this "Tsunami" will never happen. Quote me on that.
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xrobertcmx
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Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it
said by NOVA_Guy :
Think it can't be made so? Just look at the crap that was pulled with DivX.
Call me out of touch, but what happened with DivX? Is this the DivX DVD disc that floped? or the Codec? |
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totamak
And they call me nuts?
join:2000-10-24
Los Angeles, CA |  reply to Sarge_0321
Re: Coming from Japan..
Or making major assumptions about broadband in the US! |
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mdmathis6
join:2001-10-15
Midlothian, VA | reply to xrobertcmx
Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it
It was the disc....divx is another name for the mp4 codec, so when you see downloads for a divx player, it refers to a media player that will play videos encoded in mp4. |
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xrobertcmx
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Sterling, VA
clubs: | Thanks, I barely remember those disc's on the shelf, but I am familiar with DivX as the mp4 codec. Seems like every video downloaded is encoded in it. |
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AkumalDave
Life's A Beach
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join:2001-04-20
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to tschmidt
quote:
...unless they work together on industry-wide open standards.
Are we to assume that SONY has learned their lesson from the BetaMax? I guess they have licensed other manufacturers for Memory Stick technology, but it took awhile.
Hey, if they can make broadband as quick, easy and inexpensive as water flowing from the tap - more power to 'em!
Dave |
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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Rowlett, TX
clubs: | Yeah, as long as whatever standards become standards, they are Sony standards.
I question their sincerity. |
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