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Comments on news posted 2003-03-14 17:16:32: As we've discussed, three cities in Illinois, irked by sub-par cable service have decided to move forward with a plan for a tri-city municipally run broadband network. The network will be put before voters April 1st. ..

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Go Chargers7
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 Run little man run

After years of screwing over customers...it's payback time. Did it ever dawn on Comcast and SBC that if THEY were competent enough to run their network there would be no push for municipal service?
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Archivis
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What?

Shouldn't comcast be worried whether or not THEY can be competent?

Seriously... This is "oh shit, we're worried, lets send out our propoganda!"
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reply to Go Chargers7
Re: Run little man run

quote:
Did it ever dawn on Comcast and SBC that if THEY were competent enough to run their network there would be no push for municipal service?
DING!


Archivis
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Don't I get a DING?

i posted mine before i saw Go Chargers post his.

Boo! Where's my ding!

time to setup municipality based dslreports... people aren't competent to run it themselves!

Dings for everyone!
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JPuppy
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Re: What?

Ding!


BBC4544

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Saint Peters, MO
gov't and competent???

you all have a lot of faith in local govt


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Tacoma's Click! network seems to be near perfect and at half the damn price that comcash charges. Their local government seems to be working just fine.

It's not to say that other local municipalities will be as efficient, but it's becoming more and more commonplace for the state's local cities to start thinking about city run network broadband.


RandomX22

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Re: What?

Those ads are also fairly misinformative and incorrect in many cases. That's just silly, Comcast is just levying their huge power to sway voters. It won't work, their customer service and broadband service all suck.


minidu
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reply to RandomX22
Re: gov't and competent???

I would love to see a municiple broadband connection where I am. I'm tired of seeing my money go the bells, even if I do use a clec, they still get money from me.


JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
reply to RandomX22
Finding good people to work for local governments' broadband programs shouldn't be too hard, what with all the people SBC and Comcast have fired.


mikesb
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 reply to Go Chargers7
Re: Run little man run

I hope this takes off. With all the attention it's getting from Comcast, it would be a hell of a blow once the network gets lit. I doubt we'd ever see this in urban areas though. I'll still be sub-1mb while farmers are video-conferencing with each other about the weather. Let's deurbanize this landmass.
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 Comcast/SBC will start price war if voters approve

After looking at the rate charts the Tricities have released, their rates are about 10-20% below Comcast and SBC's for equivalent services.

My guess would be that if the voters approve this, Comcast and SBC will drop their rates sufficient to make the municipal services about equal in price. Hoping that users won't go to the trouble to switch if the price is the same.

You can see why Comcast and SBC are fighting this - they don't want to see a competitor that will force them to lower prices.
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edhodges

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Saint Charles, IL
reply to BBC4544
Re: gov't and competent???

/ed puts tongue in cheek and says...

I live in one of these cities and I think my local dog catcher could do a better job of managing customer support than the folks I've spoken with at both Comca$t and $BC.

m1k3

join:2002-01-31
Aurora, IL
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Too bad I live right outside that area. Still stuck with comcast and sbc, and I can safely say there is more competence in my little finger than the both of them.


BigDaddy05

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Re: gov't and competent???

The cities will have one item that gives them additional incentive to keep the system working correctly that $BC and Comca$t don’t have. The city agencies will use the system to interconnect with each other. The current providers use fiber runs and copper lines separate from the neighborhood links used for broadband.

While I’m sure that the cities will use a fiber network that is separate from the broadband Internet links, it will most likely be in the same bundles and use co-located equipment. This will give them additional incentive to keep the lines and equipment working properly.

Additional incentive, if they give the users bad service, they may be voted out in the next election. Even if they only do their ‘system upgrades’ on the same schedule as SB$ and Comca$t - just before their agreement is up for renewal - they will be on a four year cycle and not one that is 10 or more years long.


dnoyeB
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reply to RandomX22
Re: What?

Yes, but how bad IS your cable TV and phone service? Mine is pretty darn good and I suspect most peoples is as well.

This is misdirection. Trying to infer that the quality is the only concern, and that cable TV and telephone quality transfers to Network quality.

Not once did they mention price of service, or that Comcast et al could provide it for less. Not once...
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dnoyeB
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Southfield, MI
reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Comcast/SBC will start price war if voters app

Yes they will do that. But I think that is illegal and anti-competitive.


JPuppy
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Re: Comcast/SBC will start price war if voters approve

said by TKJunkMail See Profile:
Hoping that users won't go to the trouble to switch if the price is the same.

I'm one of those people who would pay 10-20% more for municipal service just out of spite for the larger incumbants.


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BBC4544

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Saint Peters, MO

reply to BBC4544
Re: gov't and competent???

this is a copy of a post i did in feb. i am reposting this for my enjoyment. i hope someone else gets a kick out of it

my municipality cannot even pick up my trash on time. with my luck billy joe bob alderman would hire his single tooth cousin to be the engineer, his wife/sister would be customer service manager, their 10 kids would be the "customer service reps", and they call center would be a double wide.

the service tech would show up in a rusted el camino.

vic102482
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Upper Marlboro, MD
I will be brining this to my local areas attention

Next Town hall meeting, I suggest you all do the same.
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