vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
| FBI has already made their first mistake
I can tell you right now, by going commecial and contracting out to these consumer based companies, they are making a mistake. The NSA makes a point not to do exactly that. The FBI can monitor, but like their war on Warez VERY few will be cought doing anything.
I doubt they will few if any terrorists at all with this form of attack.
What terrorist is using VOIP anyways?
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Karl Bode
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| Actually the organizations controlling the drug pipelines from Columbia to the U.S. are much more technically savvy than the FBI has ever been, I'd not be surprised to know that they'd been using it for quite a while....
Terrorists though at this point are probably too busy hiding and running for their lives. I'm also guessing that those 10 responsible for the Cole bombing who escaped from prison last week probably did it without Vonage's help. 
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Agent_haito
join:2002-09-20
Winston Salem, NC
| *Tap Tap Tap*
Hello McFly..Can you hear me?
Like buying a new door for your house that the Feds already have a key to...
methinks the snowball has had too much momentum to stop folx..
You'll be buying your onetime activation Software, to use with your Palladium DRM friendly Intel pentium 4 hardware, to connect to the approved Internet sites your state may allow(Pennsylvania) with no firewall to hide your IP from the RIAA to use your VOIP connection that the feds can listen to. Oh and you better not go over your CAP limits, bandwidth hog!!! |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
 ·AT&T Southwest
| Stupid is as Stupid does
Its just another buffoon job's program. The USA makes itself a coveted terrorist target by being the Asses of Evil and then cites an overwhelming need to control terrorism. 'Sorta like the "drug-war" eh? Lets make stupid drug laws and kill anyone attempting to cash-in on the government-made market. Is a Phd absolutely required to become an idiot? or does it just come with government service? |
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mr sean
Professional Infidel
Premium,ExMod 2001-07
join:2001-04-03
N. Absentia
clubs: | You...you...you mean that the Government doesn't have our best interests at heart?
I'm shocked!
Shocked, I say!
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jonnyzor
join:2002-07-28
San Jose, CA
| WHAT EVER!!!
You liberals are just running your mouths off again. When will you ever learn. Since Bush kicked you to the curb about Iraq, you are going to find other ways of brining him down. News Flash!!! You can try all you want but nothing is going to stick. Just give it up, throw in the towel. You guys lost!! |
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Agent_haito
join:2002-09-20
Winston Salem, NC
| Ha and the Chimp never won....the economy's in the crapper, the unemployment rate gets better each month, a stupid a$$ tax cute plan, a lame overtime pay bill, a Permanent Patriot Bill,and you are telling Liberals to give it up..why would anybody give up on their country....America will get back to it's Glory days but it will be without the Chimp in the office... |
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TheMadSwede
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI
 ·Charter Pipeline
| reply to vic102482
Re: FBI has already made their first mistake
said by vic102482  :
What terrorist is using VOIP anyways?
With all this publicity, a better question might now be what terrorist isn't going to try to use VOIP?
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mr sean
Professional Infidel
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join:2001-04-03
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Re: WHAT EVER!!!
I'm amazed an article and a thread that, until your comments jonnyzor , made no mention of Bush, has suddenly become the propaganda tool of some secret Liberal cabal.
I should have known....
Those darn commie-pinkos are everywhere.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to TheMadSwede
Re: FBI has already made their first mistake
Ah, the old "If we don't talk about it, nobody will know it's real" argument. |
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TheMadSwede
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| Real effective...
Real good folks - the best thing to do when we all need to stick together the most is to have a political pissing contest. There's drops on the front of both of your trousers by the way...
If we'd stop blaming single people and administrations for their good or bad actions, maybe we'd get somewhere. Do you really think the poor economy is the fault of the current administration? Remember that not every administration has an manic, irrational internet boom to buoy its efforts.
And as for the Limaughian efforts to come in here and show up the "liberals", grow up.
The problem is that we all want to define good and bad by pointing at one person or another, when the line runs right down the middle of all of us.
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de_montefixo
Premium
join:2002-11-11
Los Gatos, CA
|  And another thing...
Ever wonder why with all this great technology and the massive amounts of fiber in our neighborhoods why we still can't have it to the house?
I may be off-base, but how would a police agency easily "tap" your stream of light? Copper? No problem, just piggyback the line...Glass? hmm, no light, no service...perhaps from the CO but that would be a nightmare, maybe I'm paranoid... |
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vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
| reply to TheMadSwede
Re: FBI has already made their first mistake
said by TheMadSwede :
said by vic102482 :
What terrorist is using VOIP anyways?
With all this publicity, a better question might now be what terrorist isn't going to try to use VOIP?
Hahaha I know right.
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Suzuki Kid
join:2002-01-16
Allison Park, PA |  Can we say YOU SUCK?!?!
Yeah, whatever happend to freedom of speech?!!? Guess we can go and throw that right out the window! |
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garagerock
Premium
join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY
|  reply to ronpin
Re: Stupid is as Stupid does
LOL-like Bill Hicks used to say:
there's a war on drugs....and we're losing...do you know what that implies? that there is a war, and the people on drugs are winning! you're sitting there watching saturday night live with your buddies saying "looks like I've got my flank covered!" |
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garagerock
Premium
join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY | reply to jonnyzor
Re: WHAT EVER!!!
Blah blah conservatives blah blah blah you right wingers blah blah blippity blah....blather banter prattle....
Just as effective as your approach. |
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
·Charter Pipeline
·Verizon west (ex G..
| Uh, guys...?
How about no one buys this hardware with this built in?
If we don't adopt the hardware that can do it, what company would make a product that won't sell?
How can the FBI alter the fabric of the internet quickly enough that all of us have to go out and buy this crap so we can get online?
The internet is WORLD-WIDE you FBI people, you can't just turn it off in our country and claim victory. This may be a case where the government is too dumb for it's own good.
FBI=Freedom Breakdown Imminent |
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dcpimp
join:2001-01-13
Cleveland, OH
| Instead of wasting money and time
lets just roll all countries that have anti-west ideoligies?
Kill em all, and my kids won't have to worry. I for 1 laugh that saddam hussein had a friggin country for years that could be took over in days, let the military do, what our tax dollars in the U.S.A go toward. Terrorism will cease and disist. go ahead and hate on me, but 20 years of kingship gone in under a month? lmfao syria, iran, lets take all of it and be done. and while I'm at it....France can bow and so can russia. Korea----- please pull outta the region and show them all hiroshima revisited. they will weep
more than we do.
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| reply to DHRacer
Re: Uh, guys...?
said by DHRacer :
How about no one buys this hardware with this built in?
They will have the service providers to buy tapping friendly equipment. No, they do not need that sort of equipment on your end. They need it on the service provider's end. |
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wozster
Premium
join:2000-10-21
Lenexa, KS
| reply to jonnyzor
Re: WHAT EVER!!!
Liberals? I think you meant Libertarians
This is not a Democrat or Republican issue, it's a privacy issue.
Perhaps you should become more familiar with the Fourth Amendment.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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