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Comments on news posted 2003-04-18 11:00:48: Many record companies have turned to bogus files to deter and irritate users of peer to peer networks, but Madonna has recently taken a more personal approach. ..
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  ravital Just Another Pesky Independent Nh Voter Premium join:2001-07-19 Merrimack, NH | Constitutional Amedment Just a thought: Copyright law clearly includes the words "for a limited time" making perpetual copyrights unconstitutional. Let's make an amendment, and release Madonna, Cher, Barbara Streisand and Eminem from this restriction. | |
|  |   dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ | Re: Constitutional Amedment look at mickey mouse! everytime the copyright gets close to expiring disney fights to get the copyright period extended. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
|  nasadude
join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD | publicity stunt? has it occurred to anyone that Madonna is getting all sorts of free publicity about this? The couple of articles I have seen about this all mention her web site and how her new single is available there. Maybe she knew exactly what she was doing. | |
|  |   SRFireside
join:2001-01-19 Houston, TX | Re: publicity stunt? Of course it has occured to us. Haven't you been reading the posts? -- Love Science Fiction? www.spacestationzoom.com | |
|  |  |   mrchris We don't miss you Bush Premium join:2002-10-01 North Babylon, NY | Re: Whore I double that | |
|  11337845 Live free or die Premium join:2002-12-20 Seattle, WA
| An Audio response that can be found on Kazaa! To the attention of Ms. Madonna (RE Easy Ride).mp3
for those of you who know what the link above is, have fun.
This is an audio response to Madonna's message. I recommend downloading it and spreading it around.
If you want to find it on kazaa just search for an audio title by that name. | |
|  |   MrTangent
join:2001-12-28 Earth
| Re: An Audio response that can be found on Kazaa! said by 11337845 : To the attention of Ms. Madonna (RE Easy Ride).mp3
for those of you who know what the link above is, have fun.
This is an audio response to Madonna's message. I recommend downloading it and spreading it around.
If you want to find it on kazaa just search for an audio title by that name.
"Cannot go to sig2dat:/%7CFile:TotheattentionofMs.Madonna(REEasyRide?0Bytes,76KB%7CUUHash:=1cRC0CjrIGpHmyRuIz8oPl PQ/v8=%7C?, because Mac OS X doesn?t recognize addresses starting with ?sig2dat:?."
I've never seen an a href tag that points to a "sig2dat" before. What the hell is that? Why not use industry standard http and ftp so people can actually get the file?  -- "War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength" | |
|  |  |  |  |   MrTangent
join:2001-12-28 Earth
| Re: An Audio response that can be found on Kazaa! said by 11337845 : sorry i'm having issues posting it on this board
File:To the attention of Ms. Madonna (RE Easy Ride).mp3 Length:77740Bytes,76KB UUHash:=1cRC0CjrIGpHmyRuIz8oPlPQ/v8=
To the attention of Ms. Madonna (RE Easy Ride).mp3
File:To the attention of Ms. Madonna (RE Easy Ride).mp3 Length:77740Bytes,76KB UUHash:=1cRC0CjrIGpHmyRuIz8oPlPQ/v8=
It's okay. It still doesn't seem to be working. Is the file on a machine that you're trying to point to? I could help you with the html tag if you need help. If you know the IP and path of the file, try using this code to point to it:
< a href="http://111.111.111.111/the/file/path/goes/here/thisisanexample.mpg"> This is where you put what the person would see to click on</a>
Alternately, you can also replace the numeric IP (111.111.111.111 - which is an example) with a URL like so: »www.mrtangent.com/the/file/path/···mple.mp3
Take the space out between the first < and the "a href" tag in the above. It's hard to post HTML in forums because the forum tries to render it as HTML instead of plain text. Alternately, if it's an HTTP or FTP you could just drop the link like I did with my "mrtangent.com" link just above, without any HTML mumbo jumbo.
Good luck.  [text was edited by author 2003-04-18 22:30:31] | |
|  |  11337845 Live free or die Premium join:2002-12-20 Seattle, WA | These are links to files on the Kazaa Network.... they work with that program and another program called Sig2Dat.
If u want the file, contact me on AIM or Yahoo
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|  |  |  |  |   MrTangent
join:2001-12-28 Earth
| Re: An Audio response that can be found on Kazaa! said by 11337845 : here is the file i put it on yahoo lemme know if this works
»us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/fae6a99f···HxVFfDmK
Didn't work. Heh. I don't have Kazaa or any of those P2P apps. I have Soulseek installed but I rarely use it. Anyway, thanks for trying... I'm not sure why the last link didn't work. Was "http://us.f1.YAHOOFS.com the real address? Yahoofs? Anyway, don't sweat it. It's the thought that counts, right? 
BTW, I was unaware that you could link to a Kazaa file. That is admittedly pretty neat. -- "War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength" | |
|   ravital Just Another Pesky Independent Nh Voter Premium join:2001-07-19 Merrimack, NH | Top 10 uses for Madonna's swear-clip 1. Use it as a Windows sound - convert the mp3 to a wav and assign it to the error event in your control panel.
Your turn. | |
|  |   SRFireside
join:2001-01-19 Houston, TX
| Re: Top 10 uses for Madonna's swear-clip 2. - I'm going to reconfigure my car horn using a loudspeaker instead of the horn to playback Madonna's swear clip every time I honk the horn. That should get the jaywalkers' attention  -- Love Science Fiction? www.spacestationzoom.com | |
|  |  Cyron
join:2002-09-24 Charlotte, NC | I said this in another post but, use it in my emule so it will play every time I click an ED2K link. Sounds kinda like my girlfriend when I click on an pron link?  | |
|  |   JosephStalin
join:2002-08-08 Springfield, MA | Madonna.com LoL, her site is back up, but it is still under the control of hackers. | |
|   octavious
@rr.com
| Madonna=pinko It won't really matter since our society has no shortage of brain dead music fans that actually think of her "music" as listenable.
For years Madonna has insulted her fans only to have more flock to her "music".
Madonna, like most other musicians, needs to realize that the only reason she's not living in a boarding house strung out on crack is because of her fans . Fans that take their hard-earned money (or their parents hard-earned money) and buy her "art". | |
|  TheWickerMan
join:2002-04-09 Enola, PA | Madonna who? I'm surprised anyone would even want it. Face it, she's old news. Give it another ten years, and everyone will be saying "Madonna who?" | |
|  |  |   SRFireside
join:2001-01-19 Houston, TX | Re: |||||||| Gee... how quaint. I was hoping for more complaining than that. -- Love Science Fiction? www.spacestationzoom.com | |
|  sago
join:2001-12-19
| Music and Philosophy I understand that Canada has a surcharge attached to CD recordable media that pays out royalties to artist organizations. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you live in Canada it is fine to go over to a friend's house and copy albums that your friend has, so long as it is for personal use only. If you are selling them for a profit, then of course, that's illegal.
I wonder sometimes why there is so much frustration surrounding these types of issues. Some of the things that I grew up believing music was supposed to be include fun, relaxing,energizing, inspiring, entertaining, and the like. I never would have imagined it as being frustrating or involving fear of prosecution.
The republicans' strategy for America's success has typically been to de-emphasize the arts, and focus on core values like math, science, serving your country by joining the armed forces, and, of course, religion. Look at what happened with the museums in Iraq - the orchestrators of the military action there did not feel that preserving cultural and artistic artifacts was very important. This is the GOP's value system. Many in power in DC fail to understand the importance of the creative arts. It's rather unfortunate.
I read a very interesting opinion on slashdot where the poster was comparing the big labels, and the artists that produce "hits", and independent artists from independent labels that are in it for the long haul, and are neither interested in having radio hits, nor have A & R representatives at the labels forcing them to have radio hits.
Madonna falls into the category of artists that have radio hits. She has produced an impressive string of hits throughout her career. Artists like her, and the labels that support them, need those hits, and they need the massive record sales that hits create, in order to recoup the substantial capital that is necessary to do the promotion, to get the songs onto the radio, and to produce the videos.
Independent artists often choose to not produce videos, or produce less of them. They also avoid the expenses of having to promote a "hit" on the radio. Simply cutting out the radio promotion and the making of videos can save an artist and the artist's label hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Independent artists tend to be in it for the long haul; they will produce numerous albums and tour constantly. File sharing is not as much of a problem for these types of artists; they continue to perform because it's what they love to do, they are free from the manipulation of major labels looking for hits. Independent artists can produce they type of album they want to produce, it is not necessary for every album to contain one or more hits. To many artists who are not as well known, file trading is a way of introducing their music to new fans. In a sense, the independent artist and the audience create a lasting relationship with one another. This is significantly different from the popular music world, where the artist is idolized, the artist's style and manner of dress is imitated, and the artist has a hard time dealing with their public image because they get hounded on the streets and become the object of many rumors and much adulation. File trading tends to have an overall negative impact on major label artists, while it often tends to have a slightly positive impact on independent artists.
Along the lines of what was mentioned in the slashdot post I read, major labels are not interested in file trading as a means of free advertising; they are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars getting the artist's hits on the radio, they are spending millions of dollars on music videos, and they need to break even on THIS album, not the next one, or the one after that. The money that has been spent needs to be recouped NOW. So it's easy to understand why there is all this fuss about file sharing.
Perhaps Madonna is only planning to create one or two more albums and is not really interested in creating a new fan base for the future; it may be that she just spent lots of money for a video that was never aired; but it all boils down to the methodology used by her label. The major labels and the major artists typically want to make as much money as they possibly can on the CURRENT album. They are not looking for free advertising. That's why they don't like file sharing.
I really admire some musicians who perform well into their 80's, or to an even greater age. Maybe this is why classical music tends to be thought of as "old people's music". The more time an individual spends learning his or her instrument, the better they become. I am not under the impression that the major reason for Madonna's success is her voice. It's her sense of style, it's her looks. Sure, she has a good voice, but I don't think that that's ever really been the focus of her career.
In America, we seem to be moving away from a respect for arts and culture; and while I respect the majors labels' plight, and their need to recoup the massive outlay of capital in promoting an artist's current album, file sharing, or making copies of friend's albums, remains one of the only ways to get lots of really interesting and cool music that you can't buy at the record store. Sure, it's not for everyone. Lots of people are content with whatever music is available at the record store.
Music lovers should not be made into criminals. Sharing music with your friends is OK. One of the side effects of having lots of freedom is that it's very easy step on other people's freedoms, intentionally or unintentionally, in the process of pursuing your own freedoms. The founding fathers of America had a great interest in minority rights. It's majority rule, with minority rights. If music sharing of any kind is outlawed, the true music lovers, being the minority they are, will have their rights violated in the interest of major label artists. This would be a setback for everyone.
Record labels should have a right to protect their massive investments in the artists they have on their label, but music lovers should also be able to share their music with each other. This is the challenge we have before us.
The answers are clear and the solution is obvious, but the minute you try to "express yourself" out loud, you become a criminal. I thought expressing yourself was good! | |
|   MrHalloween
@dsl.gen | YOu should post who you work for I think if you work for any company that is connected to the RIAA or the RIAA itself you should tell others on you post? THIS MEANS YOU boogie74! lol | |
|  Desdinova
join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD
| What Happened, Madonna? Here's an article about her site being hacked. I wonder what the official response will be behind closed doors?
************************************************************ Hacker Smacks Down Madonna Mon Apr 21, 7:10 PM ET
By Marcus Errico
So much for teaching those computer geeks a lesson, huh, Madge? Just days after trying to turn the tables on illicit song-swappers by flooding the Net with bogus tracks from her American Life, Madonna was on the receiving end of some computerized comeuppance this weekend.
An unknown assailant hacked into Madonna (news - web sites)'s official site, www.madonna.com, on Saturday and posted the real MP3s of every song from American Life, which is due in stores Tuesday.
Last week, the Material One and label Warner Bros. Records tried to thwart would-be pirates by issuing dummy song files to sites like KaZaA and Morpheus. The files appeared to be leaked tracks from American Life, but when downloaded, instead of the songs, fans got a looped recording of Madonna saying, "What the f--k do you think you're doing?"
Apparently, somewhere between Friday night and Saturday morning, the hack counterattack began. A digital guerrilla tapped into madonna.com and replaced the home page with a message that read, "This is what the f--k I think I'm doing," along with MP3s containing the full American Life album, according to the Smoking Gun Website, which has posted screen grabs of the hacked site.
Per the accompanying message, the site switcheroo was "brought to you by the editors of Phrack," an online zine devoted to hacking that contains the disclaimer "Phrack Magazine accepts no responsibility for the entirely stupid (or illegal) things people may do with the information contained herein...We neither advocate, condone nor participate in any sort of illicit behavior. But we will sit back and watch."
(The hacker also gives a shout-out to the geek-skewing cable net Tech TV in the form of a marriage proposal to Morgan Webb, the hottie correspondent on The Screen Savers.)
According to Madonna's camp, the hacking incident was legit and not some carefully choreographed publicity stunt (hey, we wouldn't put it past her). The site was reportedly down for 15 hours on Saturday, once the folks at madonna.com detected something was amiss. As of Monday, however, everything was back to normal with no traces of the weekend assault.
This isn't the first time the digerati have lashed out against those in the music biz out to quash illicit file-sharing.
Last August, hackers broke into the Website for the Recording Industry Association of America (news - web sites), the lobbying group leading the charge against online piracy, and put up a message that read: "RIAA against music sharing? Not anymore!" | |
|  |  TheWickerMan
join:2002-04-09 Enola, PA | Re: What Happened, Madonna? In the immortal words of Nelson Muntz:
"Ha ha!" | |
|  |   nerdyguy$ Premium join:2003-03-15 Canada | madonna sucks anyways, and the RIAA will never win!! | |
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