BrushedTooth
Remember To Shop Smart Shop S Mart
join:2001-02-12
Brecksville, OH
| Nice
That is one of the better reviews I have read for the P800, you might want to checkout the Nokia 6800 it is going to have a RIM client later this summer 
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justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
Brooklyn, NY | sure, I think I'll duck out of the market for a year and watch, just after I finish packing all this gear for ebay! |
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Kevin
Premium,VIP,ExMod 2002-04
join:2001-08-19
Meriden, CT
| Thanks!
I've been watching this phone for some time now, it seemed very interesting. I wish you could have been more satisfied with the phone, but I'm afraid your review is pretty much dead-on. 99% of people are not ready for such complicated phones and even fewer people have such a need, besides the occasional demo to friends.
Maybe in time there will be phones that can satisfy all of our needs, but I haven't seen it yet.
Thanks again for the review, it was very educational.
P.S.
Maybe you should try out one of Microsoft's new phones. 
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SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ
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| WTF?
What is with the rediculous GPRS data costs?
Bandwidth isn't so scarce that you need to charge rediculous prices for 1 or 3 MB a MONTH.
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BrushedTooth
Remember To Shop Smart Shop S Mart
join:2001-02-12
Brecksville, OH
| I believe many of the cell sites that have GPRS also have a T1 running to them to provide the data, so imagine all those sites and that is where you get the costs.
It is rumored that AT&T has unlimted GPRS for $24.99, which isn't too bad. I can't wait for unlimted EDGE
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SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ | reply to SterlingJ85
Well, I guess if I ever needed truely wireless access.
I'd forget GSM altogether and go with Verizon's CDMA Express Network (1xRTT), 144Kbps Unlimited for $79 a month. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| I'm missing the connection here....
Great review, but what does it have to do with Broadband? Or is there some perverse contention that 2.5G data should be considered Broadband? (If there is, I'm gonna be ill...)
Calvoiper, the party pooper
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Kevin
Premium,VIP,ExMod 2002-04
join:2001-08-19
Meriden, CT
| Surely you've noticed that this site deals with a heck of a lot more than just broadband.
Besides, Justin owns the site; he can do a restaurant review on the front page if he wants to.
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justin
Australian
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Brooklyn, NY
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| yeah! in fact, there is this great restaurant that just opened up nearby..
but anyway its kind of broadband related. gprs is marketed as wireless data, faster than 56k. One day that stuff (data without wires) might replace broadband entirely, so best to keep an eye on it. |
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LiLTizz
Charter works for me
Premium
join:2001-11-11
Ypsilanti, MI | reply to SterlingJ85
Re: WTF?
stickin with my attws mmode and sony ericsson T68i for a while, bought the snap on cam, chatboard and bluetooth headset that'll be it for the next year atleast. |
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bmn
? ? ?
Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus |  And uhm...
Being a person who hates cell phones...
Why the hell would you want THAT much crap on a phone ?! I remember using a phone to make phone calls not long ago. |
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Kevin
Premium,VIP,ExMod 2002-04
join:2001-08-19
Meriden, CT
| Why? Because I'm more likely to forget my wallet than my cell phone. it's convenient to have all of these features at the tip of your fingers. I mean geez.. if it looks cloudy outside, I can pull up an animated radar image of my area within a minute and see what's coming my way.
I also like tetris.
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| said by Kevin  :
I also like tetris.
That's been the only saving grace of the cell phone besides its usefulness in emergencies...
But damn Kev, you might as well get a laptop.
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teambnet
Team B Group
Premium
join:2003-05-06
Chicago, IL
| reply to SterlingJ85
Re: WTF?
Yeah that seems to be the ticket.
I'm currently piddling along on Sprint at 14.4 with my Kyocera 3025 but none of the new phones have PC hook ups- apparently everyone just wants to browse web sites and send stupid low rez pictures. Sony doesn't seem to be interested in making my Clie' hook up to anyone else's phone so my mobile access needs (PCAW and W2K term serv) will be be migrating to Verizon next month. |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
 ·Optimum Online
| reply to justin
Re: Nice
Sounds like the best thing about the P800 is that it will help drop the price of the old T68i as the early adopters rush toward the new "must have" phone.
I've been very happy with my not-so-feature-filled T68i. I don't use GPRS because the charges are unbearable, but the standard data access only costs minutes from your plan, and that's plenty fast for the tiny browser.
I have an email account just for the phone, and T-Mobile polls it every 3 minutes or so. If there's a new message, I get it within 3 minutes, which is fast enough for me.
And so far I have had zero problems with bluetooth and my wi-fi network. I can keep a connection with the phone from about 30 feet away. I'm able to sync my simple calendar and address book both ways, and see a popup on my laptop when the phone rings (and just push it to voicemail or type an SMS in response). Then again, I'm not using a PeeCee, so maybe having a good 10" between the USB port where the bluetooth adapter goes and the 802.11b antenna is an advantage here.
And the T68i is small. |
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BrushedTooth
Remember To Shop Smart Shop S Mart
join:2001-02-12
Brecksville, OH
| Actually the SE T610 has helped the T68i price drop as it is the replacement for the T68i, we should see the T616 in the NA. I might actually end up getting one, well after that new PowerBook 15.4" is released.
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DavidD6
join:2000-04-06
Stockton, CA
| *sigh*
Wow Justin, great review... I just wish you had good things to say because I thought this phone would be the answer to all my needs. Doesn't look like it.
So my question is, what should I buy? I need a phone/PDA that is going to work well with Outlook.
I've been seriously thinking about the PocketPCs that have cellular service, but they're just so BIG and I want a phone like the Sony that would fit in my pocket.
My concern with most of the small cellphones is that the screen is just TOO small. I know, I'm picky. But that's why I was hoping the P800 would be so good -- because the screen is huge and the device overall is small.
*sigh* What to do?
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SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ
·PHONE POWER
| reply to SterlingJ85
Re: WTF?
I'm currently on Verizon CSD (14.4 Kbps), and my god.. I couldn't take it if this was my only connection. If you ever think dialup is bad, use Circuit Switched Data on a cell phone!
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mc5w
join:2002-06-14
Independence, OH
| reply to DavidD6
Re: *sigh*
Yeah. The screens are so small that if you were to put a radar weather map on you would need a big clunky magnifying glass. In the alternative you would need to run a cable from the phone to a laptop which is also clunky.
Now, if the cellular telephone core could be installed INSIDE of a laptop, you would have an appliance that really is useful.
The ringers on these phones are so puny that if your boss in a factory calls you, you can't hear! |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online
| said by mc5w :
In the alternative you would need to run a cable from the phone to a laptop which is also clunky.
Nope, that's the wonder of bluetooth. No wires between the laptop and the phone. Newer Macs have this built-in, for computers without, the dongle is about $30. |
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