oliphant5
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA | More is better
More options is always better as far as I'm concerned. I'm a very happy Vonage customer and think that Armstrong will find great success with this cross branding plan. |
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ | Telcos....
BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!!!
quote:
Vonage is slowly spreading fear among telco's in the U.S. and in Canada as the service gains popularity.
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Still living on Dial-Up. |
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gmwahl
join:2002-12-26
Dayton, OH
|  Vonage works well ... when NV.Cox.net does
Their system is solid. Their customer service, good too. I moved to NV / DC area from Chicago in January and use Vonage with a cell phone as backup only. No Verizon. They support 911 and the Cisco analog telephone adapter they provide is never a hassle. Now and again Cox HSI has significant latency on upload that causes a long delay before I hear the caller's response in conversation duplex. Otherwise there is rarely any irritation with the quality of service.
RBOC's have great reason to fear! To bad you can't buy Vonage securities.
[text was edited by author 2003-06-09 17:30:16] |
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Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | sign me up
Just make it work 100%, 100% of the time! |
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vlad7
join:2002-12-30
| I have vonage for a couple of months now and It works great!, i'll never go back to verizon. Vonage is just excellent!.
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Browsing with Mozilla!
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ebubman
join:2002-01-17
Enola, PA | but how much????
are the armstrong prices identical to what are presented on the vonage site? i'd go voip but really use no l/d minutes whatsoever; isn't that what a cell phone is for? put the vonage price @ $20/mo & i take the plunge... |
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danc694u
And Your Point Is?
join:2002-01-10
Moody, AL
| reply to phxmark
Re: Telcos....
said by phxmark  :
BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!!!
How does 1000ms pings make a Telco afraid?
Admittedly, they aren't using the cable company I speak/think of. But, I don't see a serious threat here.
I hate the line echo caused by people who try to do something better/cheaper without checking everything out first.
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Charter Pipeline SUX. Nough said. |
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Orwell 1984
@rr.com | reply to Smokey
Re: sign me up
LMAOROTF.Please show me anything that works 100%, 100% of the time.Even the laws of physics break down occasionally under the proper conditions. |
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aggiejy
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join:2002-07-10
Wimberley, TX | reply to danc694u
Re: Telcos....
I have Vonage and there is no echo at all. I'll bet you $500 that if I call you on my vonage line, you can't tell the difference.
If you get 1000ms pings, obviously you won't get Vonage. |
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aggiejy
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join:2002-07-10
Wimberley, TX
| reply to ebubman
Re: but how much????
It's at $25 and that includes your local phone (server) service with all of the bells and whistles. (CallerID, call waiting, 3-way, voicemail, etc...) $1 something sales tax and that's it.
[text was edited by author 2003-06-09 22:56:27] |
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haright
@aol.com | just wait until you have inside wire trouble and theres no one there for you to fix it |
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2farfromCO7
join:2000-10-14
Farmington, MI
| The only inside wiring is the cable TV wiring. The only way to use it for most people with multiple phones is to use handsets which are expensive now, but when they get cheap, it will be more reason why the RBOCs are dead and WHY THEY BETTER GET OFF THEIR BUTTS AN FOCUS 100% OF THEIR ATTENTION ON AREAS THAT CAN'T GET CABLE MODEMS!!!! HALT ALL DSL DEPLOYMENT FOR ADDRESSES THAT CAN GET CABLE MODEMS. If they have any strategy at all they will do that. Unfortunately, they are all idiots. ESPECIALLY, SBC(Same Bull Crap) management. |
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Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
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join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | reply to Orwell 1984
Re: sign me up
it was a bad joke! lol |
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ghenjei
join:2000-12-19
Grand Prairie, TX
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Re: but how much????
Cable has a much farther reach than DSL. Why would they give up all areas that can get cable? That would be giving up all urban areas with the higher population density - giving up a majority of the market, and then you would be back with a different monopoly, except with cable. The "strategy" would be to analyze what the cable companies have/do that they are missing, and to deliver that. Match all that cable can do, then improve. VDSL with video-on-demand and the like. You must think like the cable company...become one with the cable company. |
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2farfromCO7
join:2000-10-14
Farmington, MI
| My complex has 400 units in 1/16 of a sq mile, in a sq mile that has about 3000 residents. Is that dense enough. My complex will NEVER have cable modems available. So SBC can go deploy an RT someplace that has cable and get maybe 50% of the market(if they're lucky) or they can deploy one here and get 100% of the market. VDSL is a pipe dream that will never happen. You spoke of the farther reach that Cable has? VDSL has almost no reach. VDSL is dead. ALL RBOC EMPLOYESS DESERVE TO BE HARASSED UNTIL POLICY IS CHANGED. HARASSMENT CREATES JOBS. Anger and hatred enforces corporat governance, grows the economy, and creates jobs. The economy was devoid of anger and hatred in the late 90's and look where it led us. We need to strike fear in the minds of CEOs. |
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ComputerGod
join:2002-10-13
Marietta, GA
| reply to haright
said by haright:
just wait until you have inside wire trouble and theres no one there for you to fix it
The telco will not fix your inside wiring free of charge. If you do not subscribe to their "maintenance plan" then it is an out of pocket expense. There is no difference, at least, in Bellsouth's territory. I cannot speak for others. |
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vonageha
@nyc.n | thats the point. whether or not you have wire maint or pay per visit you can still have it fixed.
But with vonage who's going to fix inside problems?? the cable guy?? joe the unlicensed electrician from the pennysaver???? |
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ComputerGod
join:2002-10-13
Marietta, GA | If it's an out-of-pocket expense, then anyone can fix it, such as free-lance electricians, or telecom freelancers, etc. I don't know if BellSouth would still fix it or not, I don't see why they wouldn't since they get paid for it. |
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jljohn0605
join:2002-12-30
Arabi, LA
| reply to gmwahl
Re: Vonage works well ... when NV.Cox.net does
Just read where BellSouth already has VoIP in its network like most cellular providers. Also read where they will be rolling out as their normal service in 2004 along with their cellular/land line all in one service.
I also see where there wireless DSL trial is doing great in Daytona Fla. They plan to bring into Atlanta in the next few months. This is not a line of sight service and will be used to bring DSL out to distant locations.
I hope it is all true because they will then be bringing video to the house and I can get rid of COX!!!!! |
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murdok6100
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join:2002-06-20
| reply to danc694u
Re: Telcos....
said by danc694u :
said by phxmark :
BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!!!
How does 1000ms pings make a Telco afraid?
Admittedly, they aren't using the cable company I speak/think of. But, I don't see a serious threat here.
I hate the line echo caused by people who try to do something better/cheaper without checking everything out first.
My vonage line is the same if not better than my last Verizon line.
No echo - and It saves me money.
murdok610 |
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