Rob Froelich
join:2000-03-26
Saint Charles, IL
clubs:
 ·Comcast
|  Re: DSL - from the installer
Nice Article -
Mr. Butt Phone (nice name) has done a really thorough job of identifying the challenges we face, and while some of the details may vary slightly from carrier to carrier the basic fact remains that we are providing a revolutionary new service over an existing and highly inconsistent infrastructure. The Number One Goal from my perspective, as a broadband ISP, is to satisfy our customers. To do that we need make this discovery process as quick, and painless as possible so that consumers don't have to endure long waits, and great personal effort to find out whether they can benefit from this technology or not.
The bottom line for DSL in my opinion - This is still the very early days of broadband and your results may vary. DSL may not be right for everyone, but that doesn't mean it's not right for the Millions that will benefit from a very high performance Internet connection at a very good price.
Regards,
Rob Froelich
VP of Carrier Relations and Service Delivery
Phoenix Networks |
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Brendan
Warr Guitar is here
join:2000-07-14
Littleton, CO
|  It's too bad that broadband isn't being deployed.. even to metropolitan areas, such as Colorado Springs, Colorado, where I'm located. However, I am eligible for IDSL (not exactly my definition of broadband.. basically two 56k modems linked). I ordered IDSL from PhoenixDSL, and waited a grand total of FOUR MONTHS for my *wonderful* telco, Qwest, to tell me that they are out of facilities. So much for broadband in Colorado. Maybe if I wait another 10-20 years, broadband _might_ be available.
*Pissed In Colorado* |
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Ben67
join:2000-07-08
Monroe, GA
| Had "uncle George" been thinking he would have copied the Win98 folder over from the CD and ran setup from there and it wouldnt ask for the CD.
All these folks hype DSL yet its available to very few. Like the BellSouth ads on the radio. They say "limited availability" that is an understatement to say the least. I live in an Alltel serviced area in GA and there are no CLECs in this area. Getting Alltel to do anything other than take your money is like pulling teeth. So much for fast connects for folks in my hood. |
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Anon | Well by all accounts the process sounds like a
real "cluster..."
yet it remains true that you cannot win unless
you play. So I await 7 August to see whether
SBC/ASI will actually be able to turn on ADSL
at mi casa. Keep hope alive! |
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hurleyp
join:2000-06-20
Ottawa, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
|  "Wiring left over from 1930 just running off to some dead jack..This will kill your signal too."
I might have something like this in my house. How can I go about identifying and fixing a dead jack? (Without having a phone guy pay a visit, that is.)
Paul |
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wesm
tmb.org
Premium
join:1999-07-29
Lewisville, TX
| reply to Brendan
As someone whose friend was stuck with a 56k modem before IDSL became available, I can tell you that IDSL is a far sight better than "two 56k modems linked." For one, you get the benefits of DSL (always on, line sharing [usually]), and its better than the (theoretical maximum) of 112k that two 56k's would provide.
As for "not being deployed.. even to metropolitan areas, such as Colorado Springs, Colorado," I don't think most companies regard that as a major metro area. Usually, those are the ones that you hear about regularly, such as New York, Dallas, Chicago, San Fran, etc... |
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Base4
join:2000-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| I think somthing was forgot here. Load coils are bad to have but, alot of times they will remove those for you. A SLC (slic) is a major drawback.
The only thing you can do is wait for the Telco to update and install a miniram. This is a much worse situation then load coils. |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
 ·EarthLink
·AT&T Midwest
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| reply to hurleyp
Ideally, the best thing to do is re-wire the phone "system" in your house. Granted, in some cases, this may not be an easy job. Another reason, not directly related to DSL though, is the way phones were wired years ago, it was a "chain" type layout -- the wire from the phone company's entry goes to one phone, then to another phone, then to another. If the link dies in front of the first phone, #2 and 3 won't work. The new way is called something like "star" -- an individual wire is run to *each* phone.
As for identifying dead jacks, just plug a phone into it !! If it doesn't work, don't bother "fixing" it. If it runs right to the distribution block, you could run a new wire (pull the new wire into place as you pull the old one out). Otherwise, get rid of it. |
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Brendan
Warr Guitar is here
join:2000-07-14
Littleton, CO
| reply to wesm
You don't understand, Colorado Springs is a city of 800,000 people.. it's not a rural area. And, it's located only 70 miles south of Denver, Qwest's headquarters. It's the second largest city in Colorado. The point being, there's absolutely no reason for this entire city not to have DSL (except for a certain monopolistic telco).
About IDSL, it delivers at 144k, approximately 2.5 times that of a 56k modem. It's basically ISDN that uses all three pair and isn't dialup. Big deal... I'll stick with this 56k modem until something more convincing actually makes it to my area, which will be quite awhile I'm thinking.
*Pissed In Colorado* |
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Anon | you cannot put filters on a alarm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!it wont work |
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Anon | reply to hurleyp
Don't forget to blame your ISP when your DSL doesn't work. People love doing that. Sorry. cynical dsl tech. |
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Anon | We have a problem with free pairs here. The house is only wired with two, one is our phone and one is our SDSL line. We wanted to change to a new DSL provider and ISP but they can't run them in parallel without us losing the voice line. USWest told us it was "no problem" to drop another pair to us and they "did it all the time" but it sounds like that isn't the case at all. It's been about 4 months since we signed up and paid for our new service and they keep saying they are still trying to get a new pair  |
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Brendan
Warr Guitar is here
join:2000-07-14
Littleton, CO
| Yep, Qwest/US West won't do anything for their customers. I've emailed the CEO, with no reply. This is the same guy who's advertising "better customer support and data connectivity". Looks like neither is the case. Why am I not suprised?
*Pissed In Colorado* |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Brendan
ISDN/IDSL only uses one pair. However, you cannot line-share it as you can with ADSL, you'd need another pair for voice.
I would wholeheartedly agree that it's far better than two 56k modems combined. A 56k modem only gets about ~42k, and even then it usually suffers from a lot of retrains and high latency. ISDN-56 was WAY faster especially for web browsing.
If you can get IDSL at a reasonable price I'd go for it. |
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Splitpair
Premium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
 ·T-Mobile US
| Well it's like this.
Facility F1's engineered by folks looking a plats and given out by assignment. Neither of whom have ever been out in the field. Me. There's loads on this pair. Engineer. Nope according to the plat there are no load coils on that pair. Me. Well frame can see em from the inside, my 965 see's em from the box and I can't get sync. Engineer. You sure you got everything connected properly. Me. Arrrgh.
Facility 2 F2's those are ours baby. Cut to the field, build em, roll em, frog em, whatever it takes to get service.  |
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Splitpair
Premium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne | reply to Anon
Sure you can just need a wire in filter |
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