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Miami, FL | E.T. Phone home
That is right E.T. left earth and left telco with a big phone bill.
I see it now some CEO's. Are going to do the same with Satellite Service. |
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meskinct
Mad Scientist at Work
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join:2002-01-07
Danbury, CT
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|  So what if I can't bundle?
I've got trees! Lots and lots of trees. I was told that there was no way I can get satellite service at my location. So I'm stuck with having DSL from SBC and Cable from Comcast. No, I will not switch to Comcast for my ISP. Not until they drop the price.
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ArchAngel21x
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
 ·Internet Nebraska
| Damned If They Do/Don't
It seems to me that the companies are stuck. If they don't offer discounts to people who get more than once service from them, people complain. Once they do offer a discount for buying more than one service, people complain they are being penalized for wanting only one service. So the one million dollar question is how do you please both groups of people?
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
clubs:
| bundling can be a ruse
People are losing interest in bundled services because they are smarter now than before in this area. Maybe since people have paid more attention to their bills, they have started to see that bundling haven't saved them any money. As the one analyst noted, "bundling is usually done in such a way that the packaging is intentionally confusing, making price comparison among other offerings difficult."
Bingo.
Most people will let the comparison go also once they are confused enough, and these companies know this.
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oliphant5
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
| reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: Damned If They Do/Don't
How do you please everyone?
You be honest about the bundling.
You don't pull a friggin' Comcast and magically raise the rate $15 (over 30% increase), then claim that those with CATV and HSI suddenly get a $15 "discount". You don't pull a Verizon and charge a good rate of $35 for DSL while requiring the customer to take their overpriced POTS and local voice service. There's no discount as they charge $15 more than they should for the "features" that people generally want like caller ID or wishing to not be listed in their phone directory.
What SBC is doing is not only giving the discount off their normal DSL rate but also a small discount off of the normal DN price. That's a real deal (so long as they don't continue raping customers with consistent price increases for POTS related services).
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
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join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by oliphant5  :
How do you please everyone?
You be honest about the bundling.
You don't pull a friggin' Comcast and magically raise the rate $15 (over 30% increase), then claim that those with CATV and HSI suddenly get a $15 "discount". You don't pull a Verizon and charge a good rate of $35 for DSL while requiring the customer to take their overpriced POTS and local voice service.
Or pull a Cablevision/Optimum Online ruse where you offer the service for $29.95/month, then magically raise the rates by 50% in a little over 1 year's time, and reduce the "discount" by 50% also, to a marginal $5 for those with family cable or above.
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Unit649
I B U, Who U B?
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join:2000-01-22
Stockton, CA
·Comcast
| reply to oliphant5
Not shocking, the inventors of the bundle were cell phone companies, alot of them ran by phone companies. Those execs have now moved into the wired or cable companies and are spreading this stuff.
Just like on TV when you see something for $19.95. Its twenty bucks, we know it is.
But heck, I can't talk, I walk into best buy, see a router or something for $199, then read the fine print saying (after $50 rebate, takes you 8 weeks to get it, today you pay $249) and I go for it. Thats why the companies do it-it does drive sales, gets the product into the home.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by Unit649 :
But heck, I can't talk, I walk into best buy, see a router or something for $199, then read the fine print saying (after $50 rebate, takes you 8 weeks to get it, today you pay $249) and I go for it.
its basically charging you LIST PRICE then making you jump thru all sorts of hoops to get it for the price that you would have gotten it at had you bought it at a non rebate store. supermarket club card stores do the same thing altho keeping records of your shopping habits and you get the same price that you would at a non card store.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to ArchAngel21x
said by ArchAngel21x :
So the one million dollar question is how do you please both groups of people?
You work on the quality of the services you offer then you wouldnt have to penalize people for taking the better deal. (most of the time people go satellite because of better quality, not a cheaper price)
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you dont get penalized on your cable tv for not having HSI so why should HSI only users get penalized? (the maintenance charges are factored into both products)
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Unit649
I B U, Who U B?
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join:2000-01-22
Stockton, CA
·Comcast
| reply to dvd536
I jump through the hoops, trust me. I'll get my $50 back if I gotta give blood to do it 
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
clubs: | So the grocery stores will have your personal info and shopping habits on file, and Best Buy will have that AND your DNA profile....NOT a good idea at all......
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Y2KickIT
join:2003-06-29
Mcminnville, OR
| Bundling only attracts a happy customer
The key to bundling is a happy customer. You must have service quality you like and a relationship you trust with your provider.
What a concept!
As we now have largely unregulated monopolies, they don't care what you think or how you feel, your on the hook with little options.
Yet someone in marketing still wants to squeeze more $/customer and thinks Bundling! We will incent the customer to buy more!
When the only thing the customer wants is a service that works with no hassle and a price that make the purchase a no brainer. |
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Unit649
I B U, Who U B?
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join:2000-01-22
Stockton, CA
·Comcast
| reply to BrianDamage
Re: Damned If They Do/Don't
Sure they will. Not like its that hard to anyway, even if I was to not have a discount card, my credit card company and/or bank could tell where I shop anyway without any intervention from them. Unless of course I go to a cash only basis, but then my money will make me no money at all, even though 1% or less is pathetic for interest nowadays, its inconvienent to carry cash as well as unsafe, and I somehow have to make a little money with my money anyway. Can't do that without banks or anonymously.
No matter what I do, somehow I will be tracked. Besides, my DNA profile is out there too, well close enough to it, being a security guard I have to be fingerprinted and subjected to rubber glove/drug tests frequently so I'm going to have alot of me on file, well, alot more than the average person at least. I have to be able to drive, so the state will know who I am, and they get my thumbprint and SS# with that. Have to have a gun carry permit to do my job, so now the feds have my info for that.
I actually shop at a grocery store that doesn't use cards. But since they have a no debit card policy, its write a check or hit the bank for $100 each time I go. Thats not convienent, so wallah-my purchases can easily be tied to my name and tracked.
If I ever get sick, I'll go to a medical facility and have who knows what taken from me. Supposedly its used for testing, but who knows-anything could happen to that sample-it could be placed into a database for all I know!
Either way, I'm gonna be tracked. I might as well benefit from the tracking and get discounts on stuff out of it. Its either that or pay full price, walk, and....well, can't live anywhere nowadays without providing a name and a social security number either.
I'm gonna be found no matter what I do to try and hide it. I hope they find the data they collect on me to be interesting. I'm sure it builds them an interesting profile, and it helps them to 'target' me for certian discounts and ads. Not much I can do about it, so I might as well sit back and enjoy it. The worst thing that will happen is some of their junk mail will help me start a fire to keep myself warm in the winter I guess
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Roolio
join:2003-09-29
| reply to meskinct
Re: So what if I can't bundle?
I'm in the exact same situation, I live in a little forest and can't recieve sattelite here. And Comcast is too expensive, so guess waiting will be the case.
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