  pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA
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So nice of the EFF to help people break the law. 
-- Composer, performer, pianist [text was edited by author 2003-07-26 09:50:39] |
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  DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 Metairie, LA clubs: | * please provide catchy title
If i get sued i will kick one of those stupid riaa lawyers right in the nuts. |
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  pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA
| If you get sued you will have no one to blame but yourself. I believe the correct term for it is Pay2Play.  -- Composer, performer, pianist |
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  DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 Metairie, LA clubs: | that won't stop me from kicking them RIGHT SQUARE IN THE NUTS |
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  pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA
| said by DataRiker : that won't stop me from kicking them RIGHT SQUARE IN THE NUTS
No problem, just remember to bring your checkbook.  -- Composer, performer, pianist |
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  DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 Metairie, LA clubs: | i was only joking of course. sharing copyrighted material is ILLEGAL, but i believe the measures of the RIAA are getting a little drastic (AGREE?). |
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  DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 Metairie, LA clubs: | "How Not To Get Sued By The RIAA"
here is the real guide: drive to the nearest coffee shop with public internet, don't even have to go in. connect and share on a full T-1. |
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  pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA
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said by DataRiker : i was only joking of course. sharing copyrighted material is ILLEGAL, but i believe the measures of the RIAA are getting a little drastic (AGREE?).
Sure I do...but what else is left when non-drastic measures fail?? -- Composer, performer, pianist |
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  David No,there is another. Premium,VIP join:2002-05-30 Granite City, IL clubs:
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said by DataRiker : here is the real guide: drive to the nearest coffee shop with public internet, don't even have to go in. connect and share on a full T-1.
As much as I hate to say it, it would work. How would the coffee shop know?? -- I am always running around. Catch me if you can... The Hammer.. Year To Date Stats: Current weight: 339lbs, total loss: 245!! |
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  Ericthorn It only hurts when I laugh Premium join:2001-08-10 Paragould, AR clubs:   | reply to DataRiker Shhhhhhh dammit! |
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  DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 Metairie, LA clubs:
| reply to David it does work.I know people who do it all the time. they go to study and if they park close enough you can leave your labtop right in the car (not a very good idea) while your sipping on a mocha and reading a math book. its that easy because the coffee shops around me have NO security, and strong signals, they have to in order for people on the storefront to get a signal. [text was edited by author 2003-07-26 11:55:17] |
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| reply to pianotech Re: Very nice of them!
said by pianotech : So nice of the EFF to help people break the law. 
-- Composer, performer, pianist [text was edited by author 2003-07-26 09:50:39]
Maybe you should have read the whole article before typing this.. They arent telling people how to not get sued while still breaking the law... "Either: Make sure there are no potentially infringing files in your shared folder. This would ordinarily mean that your shared folder contains only files 1) that are in the public domain, 2) for which you have permission to share, or 3) that are made available under pro-sharing licenses, such as the Creative Commons license or other open media licenses, and Remove all potentially misleading file names that might be confused with the name of an RIAA artist or song (e.g., "Usher" or "Madonna") from your shared folder.
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Disable the "sharing" or "uploading" features on your P2P application that allow other users on the network to get copies of files from your computer or scan any of your music directories. We hate this option, but it does appear that it will reduce your chances of becoming an RIAA target right now. For instructions on how to do this for particular applications, EFF suggests (but cannot guarantee) the following links: " -- Dont copy that floppy. |
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  pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA | reply to DataRiker Re: "How Not To Get Sued By The RIAA"
Wow...let's not stop with copyright infringement, let's start cheating coffee shops too.  -- Composer, performer, pianist |
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  pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA
| reply to lazarus_ Re: Very nice of them!
said by lazarus_ : said by pianotech : So nice of the EFF to help people break the law. 
-- Composer, performer, pianist [text was edited by author 2003-07-26 09:50:39]
Maybe you should have read the whole article before typing this.. They arent telling people how to not get sued while still breaking the law... "Either: Make sure there are no potentially infringing files in your shared folder. This would ordinarily mean that your shared folder contains only files 1) that are in the public domain, 2) for which you have permission to share, or 3) that are made available under pro-sharing licenses, such as the Creative Commons license or other open media licenses, and Remove all potentially misleading file names that might be confused with the name of an RIAA artist or song (e.g., "Usher" or "Madonna") from your shared folder.
Or:
Disable the "sharing" or "uploading" features on your P2P application that allow other users on the network to get copies of files from your computer or scan any of your music directories. We hate this option, but it does appear that it will reduce your chances of becoming an RIAA target right now. For instructions on how to do this for particular applications, EFF suggests (but cannot guarantee) the following links: "
It it said "Make sure there are no infringing files on your computer," you would have a point. It said, however, "Make sure there are no infringing files on your shared folder. I see that as a distinct difference. -- Composer, performer, pianist |
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  crazediamond That's Dr. Craze to you Premium join:2002-01-19 Germantown, MD
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know what would be drastic? if those people would take a minute and realize that they have a potential goldmine here, and actually make an online music store that didn't suck. that wouldn't be drastic, and i bet a whole bunch of people who download music would do it from them if the terms were reasonable. (and then we would find out how much of their profit loss is due to p2p and not the result of a)the music coming out and b)backlash from their actions).
i see all the riaa flag wavers never like to mention how they got caught price fixing. do you realize that as soon as that suit got settled, new albums coming out at best buy went to 8 or 9 dollars each? wow, the all mighty do what we say not do what we do riaa managed to cost me 4 or 5 dollars per cd i bought for several years.
instead of standing up for those people, why not use your position as a musician to make them do the right thing?
edit: id also like to mention that i bought a cd and it would not play in a computer. thats funny because it had the same cd audio lable that means that its compatable with all cd-audio devices. again why not use your position as an artist to demand the recording industry stops with such actions as that. i mean, if someone sold you a piano, but only let you play it in their show room and not in your house, i bet you'd find problem with that. -- im a bad one, im a sad one, im a sick one, with a smile ---BBr|crazediamond UT Clan Admin [text was edited by author 2003-07-26 12:15:01] |
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  major marco Res Firma Mitescere Nescit Premium join:2003-02-13 Stepford, CA clubs:
| reply to pianotech Re: "How Not To Get Sued By The RIAA"
You are so brainwashed you don't even realize how ridiculously blind you are to monopolies like the RIAA whose main revenue generating model is to sue the very people they can least afford to alienate.
If you are indeed a real musician with a professional music contract then you deserve to get screwed over by the record companies. -- A good scapegoat is almost as good as a solution.»www.digitalconsumer.org |
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said by pianotech :
Sure I do...but what else is left when non-drastic measures fail??
The record companies could try creating an online music service that people would actually use - one that has reasonable prices; one that has the entire catalogs of all the labels, including old stuff; one that doesn't assume you are a criminal that will immediately share your legally purchased tunes with the rest of the world if they don't wrap the file in 20 layers of DRM.
Like someone else pointed out: water is free everywhere but there is still a booming market in bottled water. would you buy bottled water if you could only drink it in the store where you bought it? How about if you could only drink it in the container you bought it in (couldn't pour it into a glass)? |
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  pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA
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said by major marco : You are so brainwashed you don't even realize how ridiculously blind you are to monopolies like the RIAA whose main revenue generating model is to sue the very people they can least afford to alienate.
If you are indeed a real musician with a professional music contract then you deserve to get screwed over by the record companies.
I'm confused...I have to have a music contract with a record label to be a professional musician? That's news to me! I thought all I had to do was make my living as a musician for the past 20 years and I could consider music my profession.
Tell me then...what are your thoughts to the independent musician such as myself? I know you can't resist labeling me as "brainwashed" because I have the gall to expect payment for my work. It's very easy to label anyone who disagrees with you as "brainwashed by the RIAA," but it's an argument that doesn't require much thought on your part. So I'll give you the opportunity to try again, since I believe in being fair to all parties. 
The question therefore is, what are your thoughts about the independent musician such as myself? Do I have the right to be able to control the distribution of my work, or does that make me a monopolist?
PS...when you say that the recording industry cannot afford to alienate the people who are ripping them off, it's like saying that Wal-Mart can't afford to alienate shoplifters. Any business can (and should) alienate those who would cheat them.
*edit* added the PS. -- Composer, performer, pianist [text was edited by author 2003-07-26 12:32:41] |
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Now it's too late. The cat is out of the bag. If I open an online music store where you can download songs for $0.05 a pop with unrestricted playback, and I'll even burn you compilation CDs (say $1 per CD + shipping), why would anyone sign up if they can get all that for free at Kazaa??
Quite honestly, I think the RIAA is doomed, and they're their own worst enemy. |
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  pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA
| reply to crazediamond The RIAA sucks. My concern is this: no one is drawing the distinction between independents and major acts. It's easy for people to lump all of us together, but most of us are people who work every day at what they do and have bills to pay same as you. To those who don't think I should be paid for my work, I suggest finding a new job that doesn't pay you anything. Did that insult anyone? If so...see my point? -- Composer, performer, pianist |
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