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Comments on news posted 2003-08-07 09:22:11: The quality of data used by the FCC to predict broadband trends and make widely impacting decisions is under scrutiny by critics and FCC commissioners alike. ..

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Maxo
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$$$$

I think it's those large "endorsements" that are getting in the way.

shuubz
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Dexter, MI

 Why ask why?

This administration, through all its appointees, is acting very openly in the corporate interest. Mr. Powell is the biggest visible corporate whore (except for the twosome at the top, of course), but he is one of many.

It is a plague of locusts on the land. They indulge their greed with no regard for the future or the consequences. I'm sure Mr. Powell is due for a cushy job for the rest of his life, as long as he continues to sell the people to the oligopolies.

The same goes for his comrades in all other branches of government. There is no shock value left in it.

When a dog urinates on a fire hydrant, he's not acting like a vandal, he's acting like a dog.

Same for ethics-free corporate whores. They act in self-interest because they know no other way.


ronpin
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reply to Maxo
Monkey See - Monkey Doo

What the hell -- the gvmt. lies about reasons for war -- why not lie about broadband rollout -- if it makes you look good. At least Clinton told the lie we all tell.


ib50MbSoon
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Available everywhere!

That measuring stick was used in a June report that claimed that broadband was now available in 88 percent of the nation's zip codes. "We must dig deeper," Copps says of the methodology used. "Finding one high-speed subscriber in a zip code and counting it as service available throughout is not a credible way to proceed."

Since the telcos will run a T1 virtually anywhere if you've got the $$$, it would be accurate to say that broadband is available in 100% of the nations zip codes.

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Goldman

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Maumelle, AR

reply to ronpin
Re: Monkey See - Monkey Doo

said by ronpin See Profile:
What the hell -- the gvmt. lies about reasons for war -- why not lie about broadband rollout -- if it makes you look good. At least Clinton told the lie we all tell.
Maybe YOU have to lie to your wife about having sex with other women...I don't.


Camelot One
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I do not call it available

I don't think you can say broad band is "available" in an area until there are at least 2 home user priced options there.

Having only one is not broadband availability, it is broadband monopoly.

And I agree, there is just no way in hell 88% of the country is wired.
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ronpin
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Re: Monkey See - Monkey Doo

Heh heh -- trust me -- you mean not yet


Maxo
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said by ronpin See Profile:
Heh heh -- trust me -- you mean not yet
(Turns head, pretends that wasn't heard)
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Unit649
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reply to ib50MbSoon
Re: Available everywhere!

I can guarentee that not to be the case, where my parents live in the mountains of CA, the nearest dialup is in the next zip code over, so although its close, its not in their zipcode. The odds of them getting one are zero also-the biggest business in their zipcode is the single small grocery store that serves the town of 2,000 people. Luckily the phone company up there allows it to be a local number so they don't have to pay long distance to dial into it.

They probably have the capability but I don't see anyone ever taking advantage of it, just nothing up there that needs that kind of bandwith.
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wentlanc
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reply to Camelot One
Re: I do not call it available

I second that one. I only have one broadband option in my area. And there are many places in the same zip code that have none.

I think they should make it over 2/3 of a zip code wired to call it available. At the least.

puritan

nasadude

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we know who benefits

"Who most benefits from the "value" of that data is the billion dollar question."

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who benefits from the method and content of the data the FCC is using to make decisions.

Most likely, the decision are already made, they are just taking the data they need to fit the decisions.


Camelot One
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Re: I do not call it available

And I think anything less than 100% of the homes and businesses in a given area is "limited availability", not available.

Estragon

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reply to Camelot One
You are too kind. I think you should have to meet all of these criteria to declare broadband "available":

    100% of the homes
    • have service at better than a standard speed (let's say 512Kbps in each direction)
    • and pay less than a standard price (let's say $100 a month).


GuggyFresh

join:2001-03-06
Sterling, VA
reply to nasadude
Re: we know who benefits

I think it's more that the telcos and MSOs frame the data the way they want it to be read.



mr sean
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Re: Why ask why?

said by shuubz See Profile:
Mr. Powell is the biggest visible corporate whore
Billy Tauzin is bitterly disappointed that the Academy did not consider his contributions in this category.
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Nam Vet
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we know who benefits

Yep, all those wired zips are in baby bell areas with the 30%
of non-existent,missing equipment that rates are based on.
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shuubz
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Dexter, MI

 reply to mr sean
N/A

Mr. Tauzin is an elected official, not an appointed one. He's not eligible for this booby prize (I think I'll call it the Kenny award, for Kenneth Lay, the dirtbag from Enron).

While Billy may be a dirtbag as well, he likely begged, borrowed and stole his own way into public office.


oliphant5
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reply to ronpin
Re: Monkey See - Monkey Doo

Nice troll.


oliphant5
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Cost of living doesn't equal cost of business

Why not tie cable prices to gas prices or to the Euro...they're both as equally irrelevant as cost of living.

xrobertcmx
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Until last 2002

I had one option Sat, then I had Verizon DSL available, now I have a choice Verizon 768/128 or Cable. And if I lived two courts back in the town house development I'm in it would be two options Cox Cable or Sat.
Now this isn't that bad, but if I want to ditch Verizon then I have to take Cox or go back to dial up.
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