 | | When we they learn Its 5pm on Friday and VeriSlime persists. They move much faster when it is to their advantage. | |
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| davePremium,MVM
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Its 5pm on Friday and VeriSlime persists.
They said by Saturday evening. It's not Saturday yet (well, not in the USA, anyway). | |
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kudos:1 | Verisign knew that . . . . . . they were getting ready to get their pee-pee whacked, so they packed up their marbles and went home.
Good Riddance. | |
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| | THEY LOST MY BUSINESS FOR LIFE It will take a while for all the DNS servers to update and propegate the new records. Of course they could just bring down the web server(s) that run sitefinder then we would see the good old error "page can not be displayed"
I will never use verisign for SSL for my site. They have lost my business for life. | |
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| I couldn't have done a better job myself. »www.fuckverisign.com/
Yes, the photos shown are in fact real (and no, I did not do them myself -- I simply found the domain this afternoon while pondering if anyone had registered it...).
I strongly urge people to print and tape the banner all over the building. I'd recommend sticking posters across/on front doors and not in the pond, although I do admit the pond takes some effort.
Two tips for those interested:
1. Security (which stays external to the HQ, AFAIK) usually shows up around 19:30, and has a tendancy to stay in the rear parking lot. So, if you're going to do anything, you're going to have to do it facing Middlefield, a.k.a. risk of passer-bys seeing you. You can safely park between the Verisign buildings and the Lightrail track for a "quick get-away," while still keeping stealth high.
2. There's a correctional facility across the street, which commonly houses officers of all sorts. They might not be able to do anything, but they'll sure as hell call in a prank if they see one.
Have fun. 
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| | How to switch domain managers? My company's couple of domains are managed through Verisign (formerly NetSol.) How difficult is it to switch managers?
My domain renewals are coming up in the next two months, and I would really like to ditch Verisign. In part because of them pulling this bonesmack SiteFinder crap, but also because their management tools suck and their frequent renewal e-mails borderline on spam!
Anyway, sorry for the rant, it snuck out. What is involved if I wanted to switch to GoDaddy? Any issues with GoDaddy that I should consider before switching?
Thanks much.
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| newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium
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| How to switch domain managers? I recently switched three domains from NetSol to buydomains.com, partly in protest of the VeriSign debacle and partly because NetSol is ridiculous when it comes to price. I had to pay for one year extra on each domain during the switch, but it was painless process.
However . . . quote:
All signs are pointing to the inevitable spin-off of Network Solutions Inc., a money-losing division of Mountain View-based Verisign Inc., and the world's largest retailer of domain names. NSI is facing stiff competition, declining revenue and little, if any, upside. »www.svbizink.com/headlines/artic···&iid=317
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| | | Re: How to switch domain managers? Go to namesecure.com and follow the instructions. I just transfered and renewed one. I am dropping all business with Verisign/Networksolutions. You will find that you also save over 50% as Verisign has it's prices well above what will support a reasonable profit. Namesecure.com is reputable AFAIK.
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| Surprise me ? I'll be surprised if Verisign backs down very soon or if ever. They say 40,000,000 people have taken advantage of their service.
What about the 60,000,000,000 or netizens like you and me who did not? What about the huge, pop-up, resource sucking, in-yer-face ads, fifty tracking cookies and Gator that was planted in *our* computers not once - but by *every* Verisign clone we found in place of the 404 error page? .
Who do they think they are? When did God entrust Verisign to control the surfing habits of millions of Internet users worldwide?
Remember Verisign the next time you vote to hire any US government employee. Our Congress and our President are the very people who we trust to sign the contracts with ICANN and Verisign. Their job is to safeguard the Internet, not hijack it! | |
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hiatus | For once... ICANN actually does something that most of the Internet community agrees is good... Usually they do things that people aren't too happy with. Of course this will probably be the one exception to the rule.
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| | Not impressed Verisign finally said they'd drop it. Great. It took ICANN almost a month to put any sort of pressure on them though. Now the real question is, if verisign actually does kill sitefinder, will ICANN let it go at that? I personally hope that ICANN gives verisign a big hearty "Screw you!" in the form of suing them anyways, and then revoking their contract and giving it to someone else. I have a feeling this won't happen though.
What verisign did was wrong, but ICANN should have grown a backbone a long time ago. I'm not impressed with either of them. | |
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| | More than a nuisance An unintended result of the Verisign service? You decide...
goto mp3.com and try searching for a band, the search will work, providing results, however if you click on any search result it now takes you to verisign suggesting "click.mp3s.com" was probably meant to be something else.
What if this was to happen everytime you searched on google? In other words, valid services are being overtaken by this sitefinder nonsense. | |
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| | Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
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| Re: Yeah? When? said by dave:
Reading skills seem to be in short supply around here.
»www.icann.org/announcements/advi···ct03.htm
They have about 3.5 hours until the agreed deadline. See 2nd para up from the end of that ICANN page.
[text was edited by author 2003-10-04 17:28:50]
Yeah, thanks for the spot-on assessment of my reading skills. I guess I was either too subtle in my sarcasm or not succinct enough about my opinion.
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kudos:7 | Sorry; I was just struck by the number of posts in this forum saying "they haven't stopped doing it yet", when the deadline hadn't yet been reached and there was no incentive for Verisign to stop before the deadline.
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| | Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
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"Without so much as a hearing, ICANN today formally asked us to shut down the Site Finder Service. We will accede to the request while we explore all of our options.''
Well SiteFinder was also put into effect without so much as a hearing too, so I guess we're even now.
EDIT: For those of you wondering, it took two days for SiteFinder to appear in Covad's DNS, and it will be a few days before It's removed from most ISPs DNS servers.
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| | Sitefinder off in New Jersey; Sat. 7:38 PM EDT | |
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| Re: Sitefinder off in New Jersey; Sat. 7:38 PM EDT said by fAcEtIOUs:
Well, it appears that Verisign has finally turned down their SiteFinder service. It is 7:38 EDT and it is off here in New Jersey.
Yup,
Off for me too hooray!
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 rtcyFACTS only pleasePremium
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Norwalk, CA | post using their email addresses as payback I went to this site
»www.verisign.com/corporate/about···l=060104
and now I'm using one of their email addresses as my email on my news groups so they can start getting tons of spam as suggested in that register article | |
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| Don't Celebrate Yet!!! Verisign is still up to their underhanded tricks.
They did restore some of the 404 error messages, but not all. The 404 error pages that were restored PLANT 2o7.net cookies in your computer.
Verisign has NOT removed ALL of the BOGUS websites that track and report your surfing habits.
NOTHING changed. It's an illusion to get ICANN off their backs.
Verisign continues to TRACK where you go and what you do -- if you do not delete their cookies.
I urge you to empty your temp files and cookies each and EVERYTIME you land on a BOGUS website OR a 404 Error Page!
VERISIGN cannot make money on information they cannot collect! | |
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| | | Re: Don't Celebrate Yet!!! I'm a bit confused, forgive me -- what do 404s have to do with Verisign? 404 is an HTTP server error, not a DNS error. | |
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| davePremium,MVM
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kudos:7 | And what do web pages have to do with my non-HTTP protocol, anyway? (which was THE big problem with DNS hijacking as far as I was concerned -- they treated the network as if it was only used for web browsing and sending email). | |
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| davePremium,MVM
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| You misunderstand this. There was no "redirecting of 404 pages".
What happened was that when you look up some nonexistentdomainname.com, Verisign did not return a "no such name" error, it returned an address of some Verisign server. Thus, all name lookups succeeded, so the program doing the name lookup would never fail to get an address.
If the program was a web browser, you'd end up reading some web site at Verisign. No "404 error" was involved.
If the program was a non-browser HTTP app, it would end up reading some page at Verisign. Fat chance of understanding it, if the program wasn't expecting a random web site.
If the program was sending email, then it would look like a genuine mail server. Eventually Verizon might return a no-such-address error, perhaps after harvesting the source mailbox name.
If the program was using any other protocol, then Verisign would drop the mesasge on the floor. The program might eventually time out; the problem would look like some sort of network problem rather than a simple "wrong name".
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OK. Now it should be clear that if Verisign is no longer giving bogus address returns for nonexistent names, it can't possibly TRACK where you go and what you do. Well, ok, I suppose it could log name lookups.
But there's no way a name lookup (a DNS thing) can leave cookies anywhere (an HTML thing). There are no "404 Error pages" involved.
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In short, your posting seems without basis in reality. Verisign were doing DNS redirects. Now they're not.
I'm willing to believe that if you visit some Verisign website you'll get tracking cookies. But that seems irrelevant to this DNS issue. | |
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Malaysia | ? said by CNET:
"During the more than two weeks that Site Finder has been operational, there is no data to indicate that the core operation of the Domain Name System or stability of the Internet has been adversely affected," Lewis said. "ICANN is using anecdotal and isolated issues to attempt to regulate nonregistry services, but in the interests of further working with the technical community, we will temporarily suspend Site Finder."
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So to them its temporary until they figure out another loophole.
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