csiemers
join:2000-09-16
Portland, OR
| Time Will Tell
One would like to give them the benefit of the doubt... but we've been burned so often in past.
I wish them the best to succeed at it!
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wildwest
join:2002-03-24
Stockport, IA
clubs:
| I Agree
I agree with siemerc..
Only time will tell but I do hope they start taking it more seriously then they have in the past.
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UnKown
The Underground Network
join:2002-09-08
Orlando, FL | Agress with the above ^^^, but would like to say that if a hacker wants into a box, then im sorry to say that there going to get in no matter what os. |
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orion940
Paralyzed By Confusion
Premium
join:2001-12-23
Windsor, CT
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| Poor MS
Ballmer says Microsoft is working closely with security firms in attempting them to keep exploits quiet until the company can develop and release a patch. "I wish those people just would be quiet," Ballmer says. "It would be best for the world. That's not going to happen, so we have to work in the right fashion with these security researchers."
Now what i read out of this is... people talking about holes in security are the only way to make MS work in the right fashion?
Sounds like MS...
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dslmadeasy
Got Ghost??
join:2003-02-01
Milky Way
|  A marketing tactic? Win2004 at a store near you?
Win2004 scheduled to be released 1st quarter of 2004? In time for better security pledge with the newer version of Windows coming soon to a store near U ! 
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| reply to orion940
Re: Poor MS
No. Remove your obvious bias and reread it.
If people would keep their mouths shut about exploits, then Microsoft could fix them and release a patch before some retard takes advantadge of it.
These people find an exploit, report it to god and his dog, and within minutes every tool on the internet knows about the exploit. Then some hacker who's mommy took him off the boob too soon, needs attention, and then uses that expliot before a fix is put out. |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
 ·Charter Pipeline
| What i heard was..
They are devoting a whole service pack called SSP.
Secure service pack.
Its basicly a pack you download that updates adds to every program in windows and updates them to most secure. They are going over every winxp code to make this patch possible.
Now the downside to this is, that even if new secure patches come available for some reason they miss something (no doubt they will) you will download update without your knowledge till after it is done it will say its updated.
They figure the cost of privacy vs security its more for secure system's than have a exploit that can ruin a PC.
Love it or hate it. Its coming.
I like it, the only people who will prob be up in arms is all the privacy people, but that will pass like windows activation did.
Also people on slow connects might not be to happy, but im sure they will still make them able to download also or get on CD for shipping. |
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Mike
Premium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
clubs:  | reply to orion940
Re: Poor MS
Great quote, Balmer.
"If no one but hackers found these, then we'd have less work to do. Not like I really do anything anyway." |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | reply to markopoleo
Re: What i heard was..
HAHA again? I don't think they care about it at all! |
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csiemers
join:2000-09-16
Portland, OR
| reply to UnKown
Re: I Agree
That is very very true.
As I always tell everyone... if someone's desperate enough... they'll find a way to break into it.
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baby_bear
@attbi.com | reply to markopoleo
Re: What i heard was..
Why do I have the haunting feeling that in the 'SSP', MS would slip us thier DRM 'mickey'(No reference to unexpiring copyrights intended)! |
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Aggie Dan
Stop... Reverse That.
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Frisco, TX
clubs:
| How about...
What about this?
Let's say it has been 14 days since your Microsoft Critical update manager found an update and downloaded it, making it ready to install. But, you are online.
Couldn't Microsoft force your computer into a reduced functionality mode until you applied the patch?
Of course, that would be a DEFAULT setting and you could change that through configurations. But, you'd have to be given the ability to change it.
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Da22in
Buck Fush
join:2002-06-10
Charlotte, NC
clubs:
| No auto-updates for me
I commend MS for (once again)taking security seriously...but I will not allow Windows to update automatically. I'll get them manually.
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Lloydr
Seawolf
join:2001-11-27
Milton, FL
clubs:
|  tsk tsk
m$ is doing nothing but pissin in the wind and its gonna blow right back in their faces....and the entire open source world is gonna sit back and LAUGH! personally im glad they are trying to pull the SSP stunt because just going to run even more people away and even more developers to real operating systems like Linux or any *nix variation for that matter
i say YEY MICRO$H!T, now keep up the good work of pissing on all your users...but the wind is starting to blow back at ya, so prepare for it all to fly back in your FACE! |
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
·Cox HSI
| reply to dslmadeasy
Re: A marketing tactic? Win2004 at a store near you?
[rant on]
Are you serious, another OS for 2004? Didn't XP just come out, at least it seems it just did. My goodness, it is getting harder and harder to keep up with the new OS's. If I am getting fustrated with constantly changing OS's, what about all those who are casual users or less. I could go on and on, but stepping down from soap box.
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Techless
Like I care
Premium
join:2002-07-19
Hypoluxo
 ·Vonage
| Would it be better??
Would Micro$hit Winders be a better OS if most of us used Linux and all the Virus and Worms were written for Linux?
No I don't think so.
Careful what you wish for.
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inTulsa
Premium
join:2002-02-24
| reply to Da22in
Re: No auto-updates for me
I agree - nothing like that for me either. The whole concept of automatic behind-our-backs updating is very dangerous. It would mean far less security as the virus/trojan writers use those same methods to nail us all.
Microsoft should expose their own Marketing and Security people to the same threats that the public has to deal with. They have a fuzzy view of the world from their ivory towers. |
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davidnix71
join:2003-06-17
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| my next box will be a Mac
M$ will never get it right. There is simply too much code,too much backward compatibility and too much "kitchen sink" approach to software for any version of Windows to be safe. Yeah, so a Mac costs more up front, but the time you save by not having to patch it daily is worth more than the money. What will all the dialup users do anyway? Leave their boxes on the net all day so they can download the terabytes of patches and reboot endlessly to apply them? Oh yeah, and I won't have to worry about being locked out of MY box by DRM, either. |
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paulhaskew
Unoffical Dominos Spokesman
join:2002-01-10
Vancouver, WA
clubs: | :)
i am gonna take this seriously; again...  |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| how about. . .
How about if the compilers they used refused to compile any program code unless every buffer was checked for overflow conditions. how many years have buffer overflows been around and software is STILL getting exploited by these. i dont only mean microsoft but linux and unix also suffer from this.
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