Angrychair
join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL | Well Duh
Not only do those states have the highest incomes, but they ALSO have some of the highest population densities, with NJ being the most densely populated state in the nation. |
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Stewy85
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join:2003-01-16
Sharon, WI
clubs:
| Well that sucks for me....there are more cows where I live than people.
But at least I still have broadband. (costs and arm and a leg though)
[text was edited by author 2003-10-31 18:43:37] |
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Dreadwing6
Unleash The Giver2
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join:2002-03-10
Da Bronx? | reply to Angrychair
And yet nyc does not have fibre like california :\ |
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join:2000-08-11 | reply to Angrychair
I thought Rhode Island was the most densly populated..the state is only 30x40 miles yet has over a million people in it. |
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indigo
join:1999-08-22
Covina, CA
| Connecticut used to suck for broadband
But as soon as I had to move to this godforsaken backwater back in 1999, broadband became widely available there.
I bet you Maine is the worst state in the US for CLEC availability.
If I still lived in Connecticut I could get a 1.5Mbps SDSL line that I could run servers on for $300 a month. Here the only option is a T1 that would cost $750 a month. So I'll probably never get it, unless I get lucky enough to start making more money than I do. |
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Wholigan
join:2001-03-28
Buffalo, NY
| reply to Angrychair
Re: Well Duh part II
Sure, these states have the highest incomes, big deal. They also have the highest cost of living as well.
What I fail to find in this article anything regarding the costs to provide broadband to rural areas. The states with the high population densities pretty much are already wired to provide broadband services while poor rural areas are not. It is simply not profitable to provide broadband services with the technology we have now. With the exception of satellite BB.
Maybe they can tell us something we don't already know. |
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fuzydice
join:2000-12-18
Sunnyvale, CA
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Re: Well Duh
i live in Ca in the SF Bay Area and i dont have fiber  i cant even get dsl stuck with 'comcast-the-monopoly' guess its better than nothing (when it works)
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
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join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
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NJ: 1,134.4/sq. mile
RI: 863.5/sq. mile
From 2000 census data.
NJ has over 8 million people. |
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join:2000-08-11 | damn, they do pack em in down in the garden state. |
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bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL
| high density places are easier to wire up
Well the New York tri-state area probaly is the most packed density areas in the nation and one of the most dense in the world.It is much more easier to wire up highly dense areas and Im wishing OOL would spread atleast in the top 10 most populated states.(CA,TX,NY,FL,IL,PA,OH,MI,NJ,GA) |
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ZOG321
Premium
join:2003-10-22
Slingerlands, NY
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| People living on top of people
I went down to Bronx, NY (Westchester Ave.) yesterday and was once again surprised how that damn city stacks people. To give y'all an idea: Westchester Ave. has the train tracks running over the top of the street. Cars have to weave in and out between the train track support girders to change lanes.(Westchester Ave is 4 lanes) Trying to rewire that city would be monstrous job, so that's probably why fiber hasn't been widely instituted to the residential market in NYC.
I live up north, Albany area, and always forget that NYC people live so close together. I sorta feel sorry for them.
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CharlieN
join:2001-06-12
Park Ridge, NJ
| reply to amenite
Re: Well Duh
said by amenite  :
NJ: 1,134.4/sq. mile
RI: 863.5/sq. mile
From 2000 census data.
NJ has over 8 million people.
New Jersey's land area is 7419 sq miles. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
 ·PenTeleData
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
| reply to Angrychair
quote:
Not only do those states have the highest incomes, but they ALSO have some of the highest population densities
New York City, yes. New York State, no. I believe that most of New York state is farmland and wilderness. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
| reply to ZOG321
Re: People living on top of people
quote:
I live up north, Albany area, and always forget that NYC people live so close together. I sorta feel sorry for them.
Feel sorry for us? I feel sorry for you guys, it must be so boring up there 
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To give y'all an idea: Westchester Ave. has the train tracks running over the top of the street. Cars have to weave in and out between the train track support girders to change lanes.(Westchester Ave is 4 lanes) Trying to rewire that city would be monstrous job, so that's probably why fiber hasn't been widely instituted to the residential market in NYC.
Um, not really. It's a monstrous job, but not an impossible one. The infrastructure is already there for cable to be run, in the form of underground tunnels and the like. Furthermore, in the outer boroughs (Queens, Bklyn, Bronx, SI), telcos and cablecos run a lot of their wires on poles, not underground. |
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join:2000-08-11 | reply to CharlieN
Re: Well Duh
I believe that is the population per square mile he listed. |
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ZOG321
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join:2003-10-22
Slingerlands, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Eat Me
Re: People living on top of people
Feel sorry for us? I feel sorry for you guys, it must be so boring up there
Sometimes it is boring but, I could always drive down to the city for some fun w/o the commitment of living in such a crowded area.  By the way, how do people sleep with all the noise down there? I couldn't stand the 3D effect going on.
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mig288
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Merchantville, NJ
| reply to CharlieN
Re: Well Duh
said by CharlieN :
said by amenite :
NJ: 1,134.4/sq. mile
RI: 863.5/sq. mile
From 2000 census data.
NJ has over 8 million people.
New Jersey's land area is 7419 sq miles.
And I still am only stuck with Comcrap, and DSL. Give me Fiber! |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
| reply to ZOG321
Re: People living on top of people
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Sometimes it is boring but, I could always drive down to the city for some fun w/o the commitment of living in such a crowded area. By the way, how do people sleep with all the noise down there? I couldn't stand the 3D effect going on.
We have windows. We live on high floors. We get used to it, we actually like it. Also, if you live in the outer boroughs its not so noisy. I get almost absolute quiet except for the occasional Harley or truck passing in the middle of a summer night, but I'm sure you get that sometimes too.
I do like upstate though, and I think I'll buy a house somewhere there in a few years, but for now I like living in the metro area. Close to everything. |
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slavik4
join:2002-08-06
Brooklyn, NY | reply to Dreadwing6
Re: Well Duh
All that is available to me in NYC is crap cable (about 600/130) and DSL ...
And this is NYC??? I want my OOL, please! (in an area not serviced by time-warner/cablevision :-\ but rather "NuVisions" :O) |
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bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL
| its not that noisy..
Dont forget noisy sirens and police cars.. Its not all that noisy just you get used to it. I'd rather live in the city than in the middle of nowhere because of all the action I find lots of acres and land boring.. |
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