Unit649
I B U, Who U B?
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join:2000-01-22
Stockton, CA
| Not bad
Would be good speed. Pretty cool if they can get it working right without messing up other networks  |
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bky
moof moof
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join:2002-07-05
Austin, TX | Ouch
$79.99 a month? I'll wait for the rates to drop and the service to mature. |
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TheToro
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join:2003-06-05
London, UK | the Speed is slow
is it the same 36 and UMTS?
Here, in Europe the UMTS or the 3G in the case if they are the same, is growing, and the broadband is bigger is about 384kb. |
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Sprinter99
join:2003-10-10
Grants Pass, OR | reply to bky
Re: Ouch
I think I'll just stick with my Sprint service for now... |
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Sisqo
World Champs. Babe Who?
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join:2002-08-14
Methuen, MA | reply to bky
The price tag is a little steep! |
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wireless123
@170.35.x.x | reply to TheToro
Re: the Speed is slow
UTMS is the same as WCDMA in the states. This is the common path GSM networks will take (cingular, ATT and Tmobile). Cdma providers such as verizon and Sprint will use EVDV which will use less spectrum and achieve more speed then UTMS/WCDMA |
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DotDitDot
@algx.net
|  I have a hard time beleiving that EV-DO will use less spectrum than WCDMA to host comparable data speeds, and quantity of voice calls. I'm also doubting the claim that EV-DO will be faster. Most likely it will initially be faster, but as the WCDMA networks mature the speeds will most likely reach beyond 1MBit/s.
Out of curiosity, does WCDMA keep the same vocoder as current GSM networks??? |
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MrTangent
join:2001-12-28
Earth
| reply to Sprinter99
Re: Ouch
said by Sprinter99  :
I think I'll just stick with my Sprint service for now...
How fast, on average, is your Sprint PCS connection?
How much is it a month (normal phone bill +$15, right)?
Does it drop out like regular phone calls do (i.e. how reliable is it)?
Would you recommend it?
Reason I ask is because I'm considering buying a cell phone soon for a mobile internet solution for an Apple notebook that I'm also buying soon. Thanks in advance, btw.
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TheToro
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join:2003-06-05
London, UK | reply to wireless123
Re: the Speed is slow
What? sorry i cant understand you, the english is not my natural language... and u guys are using a technical language, is very hard for me |
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SuperJudge
Magus
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join:2002-11-14
Albany, GA
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| reply to bky
Re: Ouch
said by bky :
$79.99 a month? I'll wait for the rates to drop and the service to mature.
I just don't know how they justify it, I don't have enough need for that speed, especially at $80.
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cchhat01
The Guru
join:2001-05-01
Elmhurst, NY
| reply to TheToro
Re: the Speed is slow
yes, it is a technical term? Vocoder is the voice encoder in wireless technology.
TO answer that question... I am not quite sure if that is the case. It should be making use of the same vocoder because voice doesn't need to be compressed any further.
And for some people's general information... GSM Vocoders are supposed to be the most robust, meaning that they offer the true quality of sound in wireless technology. However AT&T and Cingular have sort of garbled it up by incorrect implementations. I am happy with the way in which T-Mobile has tweaked their network.
I would guess that GSM has a long way to go before it really matures here in the US. This 3G of AT&T is more or less a crap version of 3G, trying to sell a 2.8G. ANd $79.99 is way too expensive. My suggestion is go with T-Mobile and get their GPRS T-Zones for free with a new activation instead.
and thats all for my two cents.
regards,
Ricky Ponting
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IAmTheEvilest
There Is Nothing Like A Restart
join:2001-01-03
Santa Barbara, CA
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| Old News...
Sorry to break this to you, but the EDGE network has been up and running for quite a while. Anyone how has or had a Nokia 6200 will know that it has been up for about 2-3 months already. It was just recently that AT&T has officially launched.
Unlike T-Mobile's GPRS, the $80 unlimited is actually a supported configuration. For unlimited access on T-Mobile's unreliable network for PCs, it would be $20. While I would agree that AT&T is primarily overpriced, it is priced at where the rest of the competition is. Take a look at unlimited for Verizon and Sprint. The price is about the same.
T-Mobile hasn't announced any upgrade plans, thus we do not know what T-Mobile will do. So right now, they can only compete in terms of price, not quality of service.
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TheToro
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join:2003-06-05
London, UK | reply to cchhat01
Re: the Speed is slow
yes, it is a technical term?
HA HA , very Funny ¬_¬....
¿acaso puedes hablar otro idioma que no sea Inglés? |
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aSic
application specific
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join:2001-05-17
Wakulla, FL
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| reply to MrTangent
Re: Ouch
said by MrTangent :
said by Sprinter99 :
I think I'll just stick with my Sprint service for now...
How fast, on average, is your Sprint PCS connection?
How much is it a month (normal phone bill +$15, right)?
Does it drop out like regular phone calls do (i.e. how reliable is it)?
Would you recommend it?
Reason I ask is because I'm considering buying a cell phone soon for a mobile internet solution for an Apple notebook that I'm also buying soon. Thanks in advance, btw.
How fast.. usually near 110-130kbps. Speeds vary by market. Thats where they usually hang here. In different areas I've seen less, and in some I see closer to 3g speeds.
How much, normal bill +$10. Although if you sign up now, the revised TOS expressly prohibits connections to a PC. Many ppl do it anyways, and they wont come down on you unless you use very heavily.
Does it drop out like regular calls? I've *never* experienced a "droppped call" unless I was in a moving vehicle...and I've been with Sprint since they launched in my market back in 8/98, with the 9600bps 2g link. If you're stationary, it is as rock solid as a landline connection. It will time out and require reconnects, (to keep those PC users irritated enough to stay off) but thats easily overcome.
Would I recommend it? Are there no other options than cellular service? Then heck yeah. You cant beat it.
Apple? Good luck locating USB drivers... I'm sure some exist, but still..good luck.
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Thats the long and short of it. You want more info, visit the Cellular Forum
Cheers.
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keason
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Ann Arbor, MI | reply to IAmTheEvilest
not a substitute for a land line
GPRS and Sprint have terrible latency - 500ms or so. Forget about running terminal services or anything interactive. Hopefully ATT has made some progress with the newer network. |
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MrTangent
join:2001-12-28
Earth
| reply to aSic
Re: Ouch
said by aSic :
How fast.. usually near 110-130kbps. Speeds vary by market. Thats where they usually hang here. In different areas I've seen less, and in some I see closer to 3g speeds.
How much, normal bill +$10. Although if you sign up now, the revised TOS expressly prohibits connections to a PC. Many ppl do it anyways, and they wont come down on you unless you use very heavily.
Does it drop out like regular calls? I've *never* experienced a "droppped call" unless I was in a moving vehicle...and I've been with Sprint since they launched in my market back in 8/98, with the 9600bps 2g link. If you're stationary, it is as rock solid as a landline connection. It will time out and require reconnects, (to keep those PC users irritated enough to stay off) but thats easily overcome.
Would I recommend it? Are there no other options than cellular service? Then heck yeah. You cant beat it.
Apple? Good luck locating USB drivers... I'm sure some exist, but still..good luck.
Thanks for the info. Almost every USB phone driver is built-in to OS X, actually. My sister's new Sanyo was built-in when I set up her Sprint PCS with her iBook. OS X has come a long way, especially with iSync and so on.
The thing I'm waiting on is for Sprint to come out with a Bluetooth-enabled phone so I can get online without wires of any kind. Sprint is supposed to be supporting a new(ish) Sony-Ericsson Bluetooth phone but haven't released it yet. Bluetooth (I hate wires!!!) is a necessity so until they support it, I won't sign up.
But again, thanks for all your information. It is invaluable. Take care.
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treo
@cox.net | reply to keason
Re: not a substitute for a land line
Im sitting here logged into a WinXp pro box via a TS client using a Treo 600 and T-Mobile GPRS. The latency is not that bad at all, and its actually useful. |
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SuperJudge
Magus
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join:2002-11-14
Albany, GA
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| reply to MrTangent
Re: Ouch
said by MrTangent :
said by aSic :
How fast.. usually near 110-130kbps. Speeds vary by market. Thats where they usually hang here. In different areas I've seen less, and in some I see closer to 3g speeds.
How much, normal bill +$10. Although if you sign up now, the revised TOS expressly prohibits connections to a PC. Many ppl do it anyways, and they wont come down on you unless you use very heavily.
Does it drop out like regular calls? I've *never* experienced a "droppped call" unless I was in a moving vehicle...and I've been with Sprint since they launched in my market back in 8/98, with the 9600bps 2g link. If you're stationary, it is as rock solid as a landline connection. It will time out and require reconnects, (to keep those PC users irritated enough to stay off) but thats easily overcome.
Would I recommend it? Are there no other options than cellular service? Then heck yeah. You cant beat it.
Apple? Good luck locating USB drivers... I'm sure some exist, but still..good luck.
Thanks for the info. Almost every USB phone driver is built-in to OS X, actually. My sister's new Sanyo was built-in when I set up her Sprint PCS with her iBook. OS X has come a long way, especially with iSync and so on.
The thing I'm waiting on is for Sprint to come out with a Bluetooth-enabled phone so I can get online without wires of any kind. Sprint is supposed to be supporting a new(ish) Sony-Ericsson Bluetooth phone but haven't released it yet. Bluetooth (I hate wires!!!) is a necessity so until they support it, I won't sign up.
But again, thanks for all your information. It is invaluable. Take care.
I'm usually in Albany, GA, which doesn't have the best coverage. On Visions, I could pull anywhere from 85 - 256, and usually stayed right around 85 - 115.
There were a lot of billing discrepancies however, and I got charged for connecting the phone to my laptop, and charged quite a bit ($400+), and it took quite some time to get that issue resolved, as their billing agents are very quick to point fingers and brush you off.
Billing also doesn't seem to know that, in order to use visions with a laptop now, and not get charged heavily (per a rare agent in tech support), you need to purchase a PCMCIA card ($100) and pay to have a separate number for it, as well as a monthly charge, which I don't have much detail on.
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JJV
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join:2001-04-25
Seattle, WA
clubs: | reply to IAmTheEvilest
Re: Old News...
Att has worse gsm service than Tmobile. They are just starting to build thier network.
I would avoid any gsm service in the USA. |
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DotDitDot
@algx.net
|  reply to IAmTheEvilest
Rumour has it that T-Mobile USA is going to launch their EDGE network in Q1 2004. Most of their new buildouts for the past year have been with EDGE hardware, and they have announced numerous contracts for EDGE hardware with the vendors over the past years. |
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