Goober
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2 edits | Like this will have any effect
Non-techies trying to do a techie job. These legislators need to sit with experts to determine exactly how to proceed. Only then will they understand the limitations of their proposals, which can then help them to craft something better and stronger. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD | And there was much rejoicing...
<Monty_Python>
yea...
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
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Ridgewood, NJ
clubs: | Bring up the holy hand grenade of Antioch... |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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| said by amenite  :
Bring up the holy hand grenade of Antioch...
This law will be about as effective as farting in our general direction.
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Sprinter99
join:2003-10-10
Grants Pass, OR
| reply to pnh102
leave it to the boneheads in washington to waste valuable time on a real problem because they have no clue what the problem is and therefore any attempt by them to fix it will be ineffective and might actually cause more harm...
I ditto... (yea...) |
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David
No,there is another.
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Granite City, IL
clubs: | There they go
off shore....
Look at them run and what is going to stop them??
Certainly not this law...
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD |  What they need to add.....
What they need to add is the ability to go after the people who make the offer. Most are US companies. Give up your spammer or pay the fines. Simple. |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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1 edit | reply to Goober
Re: Like this will have any effect
How many of our Legis and Sens actually are tech saavy and have no clue what Spam is? They all must know at least know low level tech stuff.
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Synon29
join:2003-09-13
Cabot, AR | reply to moonpuppy
Re: What they need to add.....
This is probably just a political move. Now they get to talk about how they are trying to rid the world of spam. This will be good stuff for their campaign come election time. |
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kcjames1138pt2
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| Its really simple
This law is fine, as long as they allow you to sue the people who cause the mail to be spammed.
For instance, the companies that offer "affiliate" programs with no spam rules, knowing full well people will spam for them. These companies not only get free spamming, they also get to not pay the affiliate. Berry Trim is one of these nice fellows.
Or how about any of the million Equity Loan Guys. Fill out one of these junk spams about loan rates and watch your phone ring off the hook for days from loan companies all over the country who bought your name from another company who bought it from a spammer. Also so they can claim they didn't spam you.
Once you can sue these companies, the once who are actually benefiting from spam, not necessarily the spammers themselves, only them will you have something. If these companies are so afraid they will be sued by 10 million people for $6 million each, they will be too damn afraid to buy questionable lead lists and doing non-sense affiliate programs.
But, Idiot Tauzin and the rest of the for sale lackies on capital hill won't give us that. |
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Mike
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clubs:   | reply to Synon29
Re: What they need to add.....
"Vote for us. We're the party that will nuke countries harboring spammers / terrorists / people we don't really like" |
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| Defenseless?
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What's more, parents will be able to breath easier knowing that they have the ability to prevent pornographic SPAM from reaching defenseless, unsuspecting children
Now I'll grant you, children shouldn't be subjected to porn spam. BUT...lets not call them defenseless or unsuspecting. Impressionable, innocent, sure, but not defenseless or unsuspecting. A 10 year old can hit the DELETE key just as easy as I can, with that "special" key being the number one defense against reading spam. And find me one person, of ANY age, who is unsuspecting when it comes to spam, porn or otherwise.
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Goober
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Re: Like this will have any effect
said by mrchris :
How many of our Legis and Sens actually are tech saavy and have no clue what Spam is? They all must know at least know low level tech stuff.
Not exactly sure what you're saying, but I think that these people don't know how to think these technical issues through. That is, they don't understand the extent of the problem and the ramifications of their legislation. They all probably know what spam is, but don't really get the big picture. |
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Karl Bode
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Re: Its really simple
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But, Idiot Tauzin and the rest of the for sale lackies on capital hill won't give us that.
That would require standing up to industry, are you mad?! I query thee, where would these fine men get ad revenue for re-election? |
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Synon29
join:2003-09-13
Cabot, AR | reply to Camelot One
Re: Defenseless?
Well you are probably right, but it sounds good, and it gains votes come election time. They are protecting the youth of america. Gee aren't they great. Lets vote for them!  |
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Karl Bode
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Re: Like this will have any effect
I keep wondering if we need a specialized segment of congress. Legislators who must pass additional technological screening to be admitted. A "techno-senate" if you will.
Only senators/representatives from this group are allowed to forge, or vote on technology legislation?
I can't help but shudder everytime I see a 87 year old man, whose never even turned a PC on, voting on the latest legislative push. |
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hbarbrey
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join:2000-03-19
Kirkland, IL | Im 68 and I shudder every time an 87 year old representative or senator shows up to vote period.
TTRO
Throw the rascals out!!!
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Legislate THIS!
No good thing has ever come from anyone named Billy. |
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boomerbubba
join:2001-06-15
Austin, TX | Oh, that Billy Tauzin
I still remember Billy Tauzin best for his memorable quote from 20 years ago: "My vote cannot be bought . . . but it can be rented." |
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oldhand
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join:2003-05-16
Saugus, MA
| Similar "do-not-call" problems...
Since the do-not-call list went into effect, I've been flooded by calls from charities and political organizations looking for money. When I've asked how they got my number, many have stated that they bought a list from the FTC, but quickly added that they weren't covered by the do-not-call law, which is apparently true.
How anyone can believe that a do-not-email list will remain private is beyond me. I grow weary of the shocking lack of understanding of basic technical issues demonstrated by committees, agencies and politicians who are involved in crafting the laws that we will be forced to live under. Either that, or we are literally being sold out. |
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