LC8290
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Cleveland, TX | wow
an utter loss of words. |
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Big Time
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|  said by LC8290  :
an utter loss of words.
I've got a few, but this is a family forum.......
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LC8290
Ms. Croft 2 U
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that's all we need, non-computer people making decisions and rules about our computers.
*jumps off cliff* |
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DHRacer
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has to be "Special Interest".
This country would be great again if we could kill that and return government to the people, not the almighty dollar and corporate greed.
But that ain't gonna happen!
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joebear29
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Alabaster, AL | Bipartisonship at its best!
Why is it all the truly evil bills have overwhelming bipartison support? |
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Topmounter
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Well, I bet they certainly FEEL better about themselves.
Time to get a job in the anti-spam software business.
Of course it is probably illegal to block "legal" spam now... LMAO!!!
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL
|  Is it our turn now?
Well, no suprises here.
Congress is functioning normally: bribed and paid for.
It's up to us to inflict punishment for spam.
Suits will try to stampede over us with this. After all , if they're all using spammers, we wont be able to single one out for spam.
But we can.
We can pick one of the spam spewing scum houses and make an example of them with a boycott.
Now this probably wouldnt work against the dong distenders or breast ballooners.
But main sequence companies - soap vendors, publishers, ect., are vulnerable.
When one of them starts spamming regularly, we should select them for boycott and push till thy're completely destroyed as an example to the others. |
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Jehu
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MA | Read the Document, not the editorial
While the editorial makes it sound like the end of the world, if you actually read the legal document, it's quite clear that this ACT is going help the spam-receiver quite a bit!
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Automate
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Re: gg
said by Topmounter :
Time to get a job in the anti-spam software business.
I think the next big thing will be software that will automatically opts you out after receiving spam. It will keep a record of were you have opted-out and automatically send abuse e-mails if you keep getting spam from the companies you opted out. |
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pnh102
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Re: Read the Document, not the editorial
said by Jehu :
it's quite clear that this ACT is going help the spam-receiver quite a bit!
LOL. You're way too optimistic  This bill was passed by the same Congress that gave us a Do-Not-Call list that specifically allows them to call us. I think this act will be equally useless.
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exocet_cm
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Just like government funded television, this sucks.
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Karl Bode
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Re: Read the Document, not the editorial
Help in what way??
The fines apply to misleading subject lines, pornography, and anonymous spamming, little of which is done by the major players anyway.
Tougher and actually effective state laws that would have helped are now defunct. Opt-out is nice, but companies like Yahoo already allowed you to do that, and it doesn't affect some bulk spam shop in the Phillipines one bit. You've now got millions of companies who are going to spam you, and you've got to opt-out from every single one of them; until they try to follow up that problem with the do-not-spam registry, which will be sold and harvested giving less ethical spammers a new list to attack.
Illegal spammers continue to spam, and the amount of legit mailer output will double. That helps you? |
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bolt
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| If I read this correctly
If I read the legislation correctly it seems to me that someone could complain that using a spam blocker in your email address could be an offense, IE bolt@REMOVETHISiglou.com. Does anyone else read it that way as well? Personally, I don't think this will slow down spam one bit, although some really stupid spammers might end up losing their money and equipment. Of course the DOJ will be the prosecuting body for federal charges and we know how effective they are.
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Glenn
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Wallingford, CT | Hooray!
Hooray for nothing!
Glad to to know we have people who know nothing about the problem giving us their best solution! |
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Jehu
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MA | reply to Karl Bode
Re: Read the Document, not the editorial
Things have to seemingly get worse before they get better. I don't want to chum the waters.... just suggesting that people read the actual legislation before condemning it as some black-souled swindle.
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Omega
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Re: wow
Our government working for us.
Why don't they take this time and repeal the DMCA?
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Camelot One
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Re: Bipartisonship at its best!
said by joebear29 :
Why is it all the truly evil bills have overwhelming bipartison support?
Because stupidity is not a partisan issue, but rather one of the requirements to run for public office.
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linicx
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| Forget it!
FCC and Congress just wasted millions of dollars creating a law that can't possibly work because, as usual, they caved into corporate business. It is easy to stop spam. Close mail servers. No mail = no spam. End of problem. When you do this you will also put 99% of the script kiddies out of business because VBS mail will be stopped dead.
The end result will be akin to paradise. System administrators can go about the business of doing something useful -- like securing their servers and applying long overdue patches - not wasting time cleaning the latest virus out of office machines. ISPs will not need X amount of unnecessary equipment , and because of it, they might be able offer reduced rates to customers.
Spam is not useful. It is a huge was of personal time; it is a huge was of corporate funds. We do not need it. Use snail mail, a fax machine, a cell phone, the land line, tell a neighbor, use a CB, or Ham radio, or smoke signals. It all works because it is all a form of communication.
It's irresponsible and ignorant to expect the public to put up with millions of bandwidth hogging html advertising because politicians can't say no to their own deep pocket interests. I can say no! Go out the back, Jack.; get off the bus, Gus; just go away, Jay; phooey on you, Hugh; keep your spam. Sam!
The only spam that is acceptable to me is NO SPAM, NO DAY! The Internet mail was designed to send short text messages; We need to go back to the basics and stop acting like ending html e-mail and viruses is a god given right; it isn't. E-mail is nothing more than an added system tool that went awry. Since email is not usable in is present form, It should be stopped. It's time to kill it before Congress throws the baby out with the bath water like it usually does.
When we go to the polls next year we should remember that we hired the people who made SPAM king in America. We need to fire them and start over. Maybe we will eventually hire a Congress with intestinal fortitude and common sense. Don't look for miracles very soon. |
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
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join:2002-12-03
United State | reply to Varangian
Re: Is it our turn now?
I have a better idea. Why not sue Billy? He concocted this idea to begin with and pushed to get it passed. This guy is brain dead. There is no rational explanation for mandatory OPT-OUT except to line the pockets or grease the palm. |
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL | reply to linicx
Re: Forget it!
Draconian! I like it!
Yes, think of what a pleasure it is to recieve a beautifully handwritten letter on rag paper and haloed by the author's latest perfume...
viewed in that light- email is expendable |
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