IamZed
Premium
join:2001-01-10
Dayton, OH
| Possible, but not probable
The creation of false sign in pages seems a bit obtuse. It’s not something you do as a drive by. I would hope people become familiar enough with this that when everyone is booted, let a sacrificial lamb try to log back on first.
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LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
VIP
join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI | someone will always crack it.
No matter what you build, someone will crack it. It is the way the world works
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skyfreedomdo
Premium
join:2003-01-01
Boise, ID |  What do u mean 802.11b is not secure?!!!
I got WEP to protect me!!!! |
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kba4
join:2001-10-23
Canton, OH
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| hot-spot providers take heed!!
we will not let you provide free/cheap access to just the 'special' individuals you know about! you have been warned!!
seriously, can anyone honesty have expected wi-fi to ever be secure? how can you make a broadcast 'secret' anyway? it's just an arms race between the 'hackers' and the providers/developers... i hope anyone investing in the hot-spot idea knows this going in, and will continue to fund what could someday become a utopia of free access anywhere in the country- even world. i don't care how much you encrypt the data, if it's broadcast, it can be seen by anyone, and the 'hacker' actually prefers not to be paid for his work, unlike the 9-5 sysadmin wo 'secures the network'. oh well, someone with more sense, please add to the discussion, i just saw the story and felt like posting:)
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Where...
...can I get me a copy of this thing? |
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ctceo
Premium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
clubs: | reply to skyfreedomdo
Re: What do u mean 802.11b is not secure?!!!
Apparently you need to open your other eye. |
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skyfreedomdo
Premium
join:2003-01-01
Boise, ID | Apparently you need to c the humor! |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD | reply to kapil
more hackers
by listing the name of the tool publicaly is only educating more people in hacking.. |
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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs: | reply to kapil
Re: Where...
»airsnarf.shmoo.com/
Also check out Airsnort too.  |
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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs: | reply to Vamp
Re: more hackers
Oops. |
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Sisqo
World Champs. Babe Who?
Premium
join:2002-08-14
Methuen, MA
| reply to Vamp
said by Vamp  :
by listing the name of the tool publicaly is only educating more people in hacking..
This stinks, so how can someone really protect themselves? Now does this apply only to users that are using hotspots?
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cinnamon
How Smart Is Your Card?
Premium
join:2002-01-19
Tulsa, OK | reply to kapil
Re: Where...
Of course from The Shmoo Group. You are running Red Hat Linux 9.0 aren't you? |
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Mr_Stealth
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Lucasville, OH
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to kapil
any Windows software like this?
my laptop's video card doesn't play well with Linux...I can't even use standard nVidia drivers with it, have to use Toshiba's
I've used NetStumbler, but it just finds networks
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Say goodbye to your privacy and security.
Say no to TCPA/TCG/NGSCB |
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skyfreedomdo
Premium
join:2003-01-01
Boise, ID |  How long would it take to...
... break WEP 64 bit and 128 bit?
Any ideas or *shhh* experiences? |
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bmn
? ? ?
Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| said by skyfreedomdo :
... break WEP 64 bit and 128 bit?
An hour or two on a REALLY busy network, several hours on a not-so-busy network and probably several days on one not used all that often. You have to capture a couple thousand to a million plus packets for some software.
As for this program, it didn't say whether or not you needed to get the WEP keys first or if the software does it for you by capturing and analyzing the packets. Of course that is assuming that your local WIFi providing cafe actually has WEP turned on, and from casual war driving, many don't.
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skyfreedomdo
Premium
join:2003-01-01
Boise, ID | Good point on WEP not being used by many. How about TKIP (Temporal Key Integrity Protocol), as anyone read or applied it?
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SKYFREEDOM NETWORKS
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DSLDUDE
Got The Folding Farm Itch
Premium
join:2002-01-07
Norcross, GA
clubs: | reply to bmn
I like my MAC filtering. I've tried everything to get past that, and you just can't get in. WEP, MAC, and common sense will prevail over all...
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skyfreedomdo
Premium
join:2003-01-01
Boise, ID
| I like MAC Filtering but theres always a chance of MAC SPOOFING!
But you are right common sense and, if I might add, knowledge of the enemy out there or within will prevail.
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SKYFREEDOM NETWORKS
Whatever the angle; We've got you covered. |
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bmn
? ? ?
Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to DSLDUDE
Its already been stated, but MAC spoofing will defeat MAC filtering. Most wireless cards have the ability to change the Mac address that is used by the card. I'd post a screenshot of how it can be done (its very easy), but the laptop is packed up in the car.
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DenverDialup
join:2003-06-06
Littleton, CO
clubs:
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Well, consider too that WPA is becoming the new standard in wireless security. I don't see why Shmoo has to go write another hacking/phreaking/wardriving tool to "prove an inherent insecurity in 802.11b"...anyone who's spent more than a day looking at wireless technologies today knows how insecure it is. Why not take that effort and translate it into something more useful -- like actually working to make WiFi more secure?
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"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook |
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