borborpa
Slipping Slowly Into Oblivion
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New Cumberland, PA
clubs: | That's gonna be a mess
The UN shouldn't be handing anything that technical, just like congress shouldn't be passing spam laws...
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IGotThePower
Samsung Sucks
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join:2003-06-07
Japan Inc. | What interests?
What interests? How is ICANN affecting them? |
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cyberthugin
join:2002-03-12
Kew Gardens, NY |  un
I think the UN shoud step out of the internet arena, let the experts take care of it. |
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aSic
application specific
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join:2001-05-17
Wakulla, FL
clubs: | Already been decided.
Based on his exclusion from the meetings, its obvious that this has already been decided...long before a "vote" to show the media. |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
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Re: What interests?
So, if the Internet becomes politicized -- will a country like Libya or N. Korea be subject to "Internet sanctions"??? to go along with economic sanctions?
On the other hand, is there any other way to handle the international problems associated with spam and internet scams? |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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Re: Already been decided.
said by aSic  :
Based on his exclusion from the meetings, its obvious that this has already been decided...long before a "vote" to show the media.
I agree. The rest of the world is pissed off at us, so they will use the current administrations unilateralism against them.
Only they will have a mock vote to back it up.
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Sarick
It's Only Logical
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| We want it WE got it HAHA. Now it's ours!
Seems like they have already made the decision they're going to get control over the internet no matter how many heads they step on.
I don't like the idea of the UN controlling Internet.
I guess they see the internet as international property.
Surely anything thats international should be owned by the United Nations. (AKA new world order)
Whats next currency used on the internet will only allow the euro!???
Inter-net = International Network.
Since they want to control the International world order this would be a good place to start.
Could this be a way to control propaganda over the net?
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PloKoon
Bumper Sticker Doctrine
join:2002-01-06
Cherry Hill, NJ | reply to borborpa
Re: That's gonna be a mess
"I am not amused." |
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elias
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join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
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| Oh No...
This really sucks.
Don't the members of ICANN include some of the pioneers and founders of the Internet itself?
I believe it should rest in their hands.
Besides, they've been in charge of it all along, all this time, and I don't think they've done anything bad or wrong.
The only complaint I have against them is that they should have shut down Verisign.
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| Yippie
Now instead of greedy capitalists who have an interest in keeping the internet working because it's their livelihood; we'll have greedy "socialists" (notice the quotes, I really mean dictators posing as socialists) who have an interest in keeping the internet shut down so they can extort money from other nations with promises of getting their access back up. WHAT A GREAT IDEA F***TARDS.
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footballdude
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO | Who's or What Authority?
Where does the UN get the authority to take over anything? Are they not just a diplomatic society? Is this just an example of taking power because no one will stop them? If so, it's a very bad precendent. |
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Raydr
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Carrollton, TX | closed forum?
"deciding in a closed forum how 750 million people should reach the Internet. "
Sounds like what Verisign did. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
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New Jersey
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| internet 3
Internet 3. Simply all us providers cut from the traditional internet, dont connect to other networks. I am sure all the cablecos, and telcos could do this. If you want to go to a foreign site, it not under there control. HOME RULE--its democratic.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Re: closed forum?
said by Raydr :
"deciding in a closed forum how 750 million people should reach the Internet. "
Sounds like what Verisign did.
Correct, but Verisign is not ICANN.
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trisomy
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Houston, TX
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| The Next Ludlum Novel
Twomey, shaking off the delirium from his pitched battle with Sclavos, suddenly finds himself on the outside of decisions about Internet Functionality. hmmmmmmmm????
Had the mods placed the Verisign logo over that of the UN this report would have been much more accurate. A little Conspiracy Theory in the morning is good for the circulation!
Ah! I can see the Sequel already. France and Germany decide to re-engineer domain naming convention's...Russia protests by banging it's shoe on the podium and George Bush dispatches Bill Gates (our newly designated Ambassador To Cyberspace) with charts and photograph's of clandestine POP farms outside of Bonn and Paris running Oracle!!!! |
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latez
join:2002-01-07
Brooklyn, NY
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| What a joke.
The UN!
Never has a an organization filled with so many representatives of so many countries been so useless. NOTHING and I mean NOTHING useful has come out of their offices. All they do is blast one country or another and have endless mind numbing discussions (try reading one of their transcripts!). Iced Coffee Anon is a waste of a human being, using his horrible accent to influence absolutely nothing apparently. The UN finally sees an opportunity to flex some muscle and is jumping at the chance, instead of a practical application of affecting countries like sanctions and protests they will use the internet instead. Organizations like ICANN have kept us alive, the internet was meant for techies to run not for these imbecile politicians and morning beverages to run. I'd personally like to shoot of a few e-mails in the directions of where they would be most useful if anyone has somewhere to direct me too. The UN is a big joke, no wonder the US hasn't paid their dues in god knows how long.
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woody7
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| Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................
In my opinion the UN push is political........I believe there is a push from some countries to control the content......not just the Porn,but anything that has to do with free speech because it threatens their way of life
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NoFatChicks
No, I'M The Exon And You're The Intron
join:2002-06-15
Blountsville, AL
| Think of this when voting in 2004!
The ONLY way ICANN will loose control is if an American president pulls a Jimmy Carter (i.e. the Panama Canal) and gives it away. Not to interject my political opinion here, but who do YOU think is more likely to do so, a Republican president or a Democratic one? Hmmmm… think about that the next time you vote. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
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Re: Who's or What Authority?
You got it footballdude. They wrest power from us (meaning the worlds people) because no one would interfere with an organization whose spoken goal is "peace, understanding, and fairness"; too bad nobody notices their unspoken goals, which is funny because they don't do a very good job of hiding them.
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| How would the UN seize control?
Suppose the worst happens and the UN declares that the Internet will now be under the control of the UN. (Perhaps under a new "Cyperspace Committee" headed by China and Cuba? Content and opinion filtering for all!  ). Exactly how would the UN enforce this?
ICANN isn't a nation and AFAIK isn't directly answerable to the UN. Would the UN send in people (troops?) to seize ICANN's equipment? Would they pass endless resolutions giving ICANN just one more month.... until they pass another resolution? Would they impose economic sanctions on the United States until Bush gave in and ordered ICANN to disband? Could Bush even do that if he wanted to? (Which I highly doubt.)
Just wondering how the UN is figuring that they can grab control of the Internet if ICANN refuses to give it up.
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