AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
 ·Comcast
| Invest and you will be free
(I just like that quote, sounds like something an investment planner would say!)
said by Article:
Analysts call fiber to the home (FTTH) the 'most future proof' of the broadband technologies.
Due to its inherent capacity it makes an ideal way of getting all the information into a home. Phone, data, TV it has the capacity to do it all, further the equipment at either end can be upgraded to provide additional capacity in the future.
If I were an ILEC I would be scared stiff. |
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garmst
join:2000-09-17
New York, NY | Wireless
Wireless is future proof. Fiber is a fad. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| FTTH will kill off most phone services
That is the biggest problem. Once people have FTTH, there really is no longer a need for a copper pots line. Sure they are great in case of power loss, but that is not too frequent.
I can sort of see the bells, and cable co's points. If municipalities are allowed to build networks, then they can offer voice, video, and data for less, and eliminate the need for phone and cable co's. So the phone and cable co's want to be able to create a private network without competition before they will build out a new network. But in turn, the lack of movement is spurring on exactly what they don't want, competition. Ultimately, I think that the network and service companies should be, and will be, separate entities.
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to garmst
Re: Wireless
Not for long distance runs. Wireless is a decent lower bandwidth solution. But for long hauls, nothing can substitute fiber.
puritan |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| reply to wentlanc
Re: FTTH will kill off most phone services
said by wentlanc  :
Ultimately, I think that the network and service companies should be, and will be, separate entities.
I vote for that! It's the only thing that really makes sense in the long run. |
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
Premium
join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
clubs:  | reply to wentlanc
Re: Wireless
I would prefer a wired internet service, more dependable. |
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Agent 86
| Verizon
If Verizon follows through on their plans it will have a profound effect on the FTTH market. Equipment vendors will be stimulated and costs will come down. |
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garmst
join:2000-09-17
New York, NY | reply to wentlanc
Re: Wireless
The technology of wireless is still in its infancy. What you will have in the future will be way beyond what we have now. And much easier and faster to deploy.
WIMAX coming down the road soon is just one example. |
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Sisqo
World Champs. Babe Who?
Premium
join:2002-08-14
Methuen, MA
| FTTH or bust...
I myself can not wait for fiber deployment, for a few reasons. I am sick of 1.5 DSL & would love & i mean LOVE to broadcast HDTV right to my comp screen.
I mean imagine having the true effect of fiber 100Mbs! That is insane, of course we are about 10 years away from that, but imagine in the next couple of years running 10mbs+.
I just hope the bells do deploy this because obviously the more out there then better for competition.
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to garmst
Re: Wireless
said by garmst :
Wireless is future proof. Fiber is a fad.
Actually the reverse is probably true... Of course it depends on they way you look at telecommunications.
Fibre can provide bandwidth above 100Gbps... Wireless on the other hand is far from that.
And then you have the spectrum issues. As wireless becomes more pervasive, you have to consider spectrum crowding, a problem that fibre does not have.
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| reply to wentlanc
Re: FTTH will kill off most phone services
Bull. The only reason that the telecomms are complaining about this is because they don't want to make the investment to run fiber.
If they did we'd have it already.
The muni's and the utilities have the goverment money to spend to do this. If the telecomms would get off the wallet, there wouldn't be a problem. If they started doing it en masse before the muni's they wouldn't complain. They sat on their laurels and told people "it's too expensive" while thinking "if we ignore them they'll go away".
Now that mistake is biting them in the backside. They deserve it.
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chd176
join:2003-01-10
Winfield, AL
 ·CenturyLink
| less talk more action
I wish they would stop TALKING about fiber and actually put fiber in place and USE the fiber that is already there...right now I have a fiber line under the ground near my house but my only broadband is satellite...broadband needs to be rolled out everywhere and I doubt fiber will do that...90% of the fiber that goes live will be for communities in the city or suburbs while rural areas will still have 56K dialup and satellite...
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bmn
? ? ?
Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to Sisqo
Re: FTTH or bust...
said by Sisqo :
I mean imagine having the true effect of fiber 100Mbs! That is insane, of course we are about 10 years away from that, but imagine in the next couple of years running 10mbs+.
Yeah, and then the BellCos and MSOs will slam you with a crappy upload speed and strict ToS that says you can't actually use that speed. Seriously, if you give 100Mbps to the house, why the hell stop people from running websites and servers from their home ?
Trust me. It will happen if they keep the same business model that they have now and people will still be grumbling about it...
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Male by birth... Geek by choice. |
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Sisqo
World Champs. Babe Who?
Premium
join:2002-08-14
Methuen, MA
| I'm not even going to respond to that one, but I knew we couldn't discuss this without some form of bell bashing. Shame on me! **sigh** Good ol' BBR! 
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No it's not a payphone, it's a portable phone! |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| Its less Bell bashing and more a prediction based on prior conduct. They limit the way you use your connection in order to force you to use a higher priced service that is basically the same.
If anyone can provide me a reason WHY they would change from the way they restrict use, please do.
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tonekilla
Pipe Dreams
Premium
join:2003-07-26
Gunnison, MS
clubs: | reply to chd176
Re: less talk more action
I agree with that. But they have to develop and test their business model in profitable areas, or else investors will run away in the masses. |
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The Folsom
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
Premium
join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to wentlanc
Re: FTTH will kill off most phone services
said by wentlanc :
That is the biggest problem. Once people have FTTH, there really is no longer a need for a copper pots line. Sure they are great in case of power loss, but that is not too frequent.
I can sort of see the bells, and cable co's points. If municipalities are allowed to build networks, then they can offer voice, video, and data for less, and eliminate the need for phone and cable co's. So the phone and cable co's want to be able to create a private network without competition before they will build out a new network. But in turn, the lack of movement is spurring on exactly what they don't want, competition. Ultimately, I think that the network and service companies should be, and will be, separate entities.
puritan
Puritan, I have come to respect your opinion.
I wish the bells, cables and corps would SHUT UP about lost revenues when faced with munis... That is capitalism, sure, but lobbies are evil because of that. We'll never have good results with munis as long as the lobbyists are hounding lawmakers-"Please, Sir, I want MORE!"
Pathetic. Corps are swimming in money, and they begrudge the munis for wanting to protect their constituents from corporate rape. (Sorry for the generalization.)
At the same time, though, I will never give up POTS copper if it is still offered in my neighborhood. Networks, to me, are still too "fragile" to be counted on for voice calls. QOS is still not stringent enough to ensure reliability. Even though they still end up running on the same pipes as voice, they are just not "robust" enough, and I just can't seem to get away from the "having a good backup" mentality. The bells have built a time-tested network that works more consistently, but they want it all. Therein lies the rub:
Corporate greed versus munis "protecting" the people.
My $.02
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achuchma
join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL
| reply to Wills
In part I agree with you, but given how far the telecom sector is in the toilet with finances, it really isn't something that can happen right away.
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IIdeathboyII
join:2003-07-26
Nicholasville, KY
| reply to Omega
Re: Wireless
I agree that a wired service is more dependable, take this example for instance ; imagine your stomach is no longer connected to your esophagus, and food that you intake is broken down into tiny particles and transferred through space and time. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW MANY VIRUSES YOU COULD GET?! =D
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_Dont Steal...The Government hates competition_ |
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TACSPEED
Premium
join:2001-04-14
Tacoma, WA
·Advanced Stream
1 edit | reply to chd176
Re: less talk more action
quote:
90% of the fiber that goes live will be for communities in the city or suburbs while rural areas will still have 56K dialup and satellite...
Here in Washington state the percentages are the opposite.
There is far more FTTH in rural Washington because our state legislators recognized that broadband was important for rural development. Add that to the long history of public utilities in Washington state and you have four rural counties offering fiber to the home right now with the potential for even more. On the other hand, I know of only one tiny FTTH development in one of the suburbs of Seattle.
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Fiber Optics is the future of high-speed internet access. Stop by the BBR Fiber Optic Forum.
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