MikeStammer
No prison can hold me
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join:2002-12-26
Aurora, IL | Screw cable
All the more reason to go with DSL. SBC does not cap!
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SBC ST
join:2003-08-05
Strongsville, OH
|  An online meter?
If they want to restrict usage by limiting how much you can download, there should be an account page customers can go to and see where they are at. And if the consumer wants more or unlimited service they could then have the option to purchase additional services. Keeping in mind if the service provider who does this will probably loose customers for selling such a metered service. (Go DSL!) |
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TrainBuff
The New Haven Railroad
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join:2003-05-01
Buffalo, NY
clubs: 
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| What Caps!
There should be a class action suit against Comcast by those users who got suspended for going over a limit that they (Comcast) refuses to divulge.
Luckily Adelphia is not doing that.
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TrainBuff
The New Haven Railroad
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join:2003-05-01
Buffalo, NY
clubs: | reply to MikeStammer
Re: Screw cable
Neither does Adelphia. |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
1 edit | 60 gigs of legal music?
Funny quote from the Detroit Free Press Article:
"That's a lot of bandwidth, all right. But with downloadable music now so widely available at reasonable prices, it's conceivable that a serious music fan could get there pretty fast."
Lets see, using current (legal) music at 128 bit-rate, that would be about 4 megs a song, or 256 songs a giga-byte. That is 12,800 songs to use 50 gigs of bandwidth.
I don't think anyone is plunking down $12,672 a month at i-Tunes. 
- Of course there is free legal music, but its still funny to think about. |
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Tekkanano
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Alexandria, VA
| Cap abusers instead of ban/supend!
Comcast should just cap at 128/64 (or something like that) for abusers when they reach the invisible max data transfers instead of banning/supending them. I would rather have it that way if I had their service. At that kind of speed, it won't effect the neighbors.
Then again, if they it only effects less than 1%, there's no point for them to do that. If they get rid of a few abusers, then they save themselves money on bandwidth, because the abusers will most likely abuse the service again.
Although, for me, I wished the service would really be unlimited. Most importantly, I'm planning on getting their service as a backup connection. So, I will most likely abuse their service  . |
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daniyel
join:2001-05-10
Tucson, AZ
|  reply to SBC ST
Re: An online meter?
I use Comcrap Cable...and have been using an app called vnstat on my linux router to monitor bandwidth...
I have used a max of 29gb in one month, which included many linux iso's(latest and greatest distro's)...and some other *stuff....my average month is about 10-15gb...and that includes grabbing maybe an iso(700mb) a month....
If comcast is gonna be dumb and say "your using to much"...thats fine....DSL sounds good to me, and is going to be within firing distance soon when I move to another location
Cable's sucking these days...GO DSL |
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ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA
| Law Suit
If my service were ever to be terminated for using the bandwidth I pay for then you would be I could squeak beyond the able grease to bring an end to this silly hypocritical lie by the commercial providers.
Its not the subscriber's fault that someone wants to use their maximum paid-for broadband potential when they sit on a miniram tethered by a T1 and suppose to be supporting 4-8 DSL customers. This is the weakest form of over-subscription. I've seen it where there is a ten-fold over-subscription by the telcos (LEC's) and I don't doubt its on the cableco's, too.
I think we need a Beat The Bandwidth day where everyone on broadband AND dial-up tries to maximize the bandwidth utilization for a 72-hour period of time. This would provide a sheer hell for the providers. What say you!?! |
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Matisaro
join:2003-11-20
Troutdale, OR
| reply to MikeStammer
Re: Screw cable
quote:
CNET and MSNBC touched on the tactic in September, and now Detroit Free Press columnist Mike Wendland tries his best to get answers from Comcast. According to Wendland, Comcast tells him that "less than one one-hundredth of 1 percent" have been kicked offline for too much downloading. But how many were simply warned? How do these users know how far to cut back their usage if the limits aren't defined? Is it unreasonable to desire a solid answer to what these mystery limits are?
It is unreasonable if the defined answer is far less than the flexable vague one. |
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Phil
Rojo Sol
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join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | It's no mystery why limits aren't set...
Once the COMCAST or whoever sets a limit in stone, guess what the competition is going to do? Jump all over that and advertise as being umlimited/no caps on downloads. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Has that happened to Cox? They clearly set their limits after similar outcry....I don't live in a Cox market, so I can't say..... |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA | reply to TrainBuff
Re: What Caps!
Yeah, lets make some lawyer rich. and give all those kicked off $3.50.
[whispers] PSST..over here...In case you haven't noticed class action lawsuits are a joke.[/whispers]
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Phil
Rojo Sol
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join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | reply to Karl Bode
Re: It's no mystery why limits aren't set...
I don't know about Cox. I do know that Comcast seems to be the one right now not wanting to set limits. |
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not2cr8iv
join:2000-08-20
Potomac, MD
| Is there really some defined limit...
or are multiple variables used in deciding whether to cut off service? If so, what might those variables be? Is one of those variables how vocal you are with local elected officials when Comcast delivers poor service or fails to honor service terms of its franchise? Should users be afraid to speak out to their elected local officials when Comcast is being unresponsive?
The lack of *any* guidance from Comcast on this issue leaves Comcast users subject to the Comcast's whim, a whim backed-up by the defacto monopoly Comcast has in many areas. |
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Misu
Hey, I Saw That
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join:2000-11-28
Orlando, FL
| reply to joebear29
Re: 60 gigs of legal music?
said by joebear29  :
Lets see, using current (legal) music at 128 bit-rate, that would be about 4 megs a song, or 256 songs a giga-byte. That is 12,800 songs to use 50 gigs of bandwidth.
I don't think anyone is plunking down $12,672 a month at i-Tunes.
A lot of those places, like Napster, offer streaming music. I have a musicmatch account, and I'm streaming music almost all day long. I'm sure that streaming music and video (AOL has tons of streaming videos) would eat up bandwidth pretty quickly. Not sure how much bandwidth, but if my husband and I are both streaming media to our computers on our cable connection, I'm pretty certain it would be a large amount.
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s25843
join:2002-09-10
Haverhill, MA
| Stop your Whining
I have had DirecWay for about 3 years now, and just recently dumped them for Comcast HSI. They had what they called the FAP (Fair Access Policy) where you could only download 170mb of data every 9 hours or if you went over that you would be capped at 56k speeds till you slowed down.
Stop all your whining! 2 gb a day of transfer limits is WAY MORE THAN ENOUGH!!!!!!!
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Matisaro
join:2003-11-20
Troutdale, OR
| reply to daniyel
Re: An online meter?
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have used a max of 29gb in one month, which included many linux iso's(latest and greatest distro's)...and some other *stuff....my average month is about 10-15gb...and that includes grabbing maybe an iso(700mb) a month....
They are only sending letters to people above 100 gigs or more, this is the kind of fear tactic this news report is ment to instill, I dont want comcast to set a hardcap cause it will be far less than the softcap is now.
Keep it up vocal minority, ruin it for everyone else, selfish. |
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sherpaboy
join:2001-07-06
Seattle, WA | reply to joebear29
Re: 60 gigs of legal music?
Where did the $12,672 come from? I can't figure out your post.
Thanks. |
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muecker
join:2003-07-20
Littleton, CO | reply to s25843
Re: Stop your Whining
Says you. |
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Synon29
join:2003-09-13
Cabot, AR
| reply to s25843
That's enough for you. But what you use may not be right for someone else. Just because you think it's enough doesn't mean it is. I run my own online game and frequently do file transfers backups etc. Not to mention the online gaming i do, the web pages I look at. I don't really consider myself to be a bandwith hog, but I certainly wouldn't want to be put on a 2 gig a day limit. |
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