SystemE
join:2003-11-06 | Microsoft
Wow, I'm supporting Microsoft on this one. Even WMP is waaaaaay better than that sh*t RealNetworks puts out. |
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titanium
Titanium
join:2000-05-25
West Richland, WA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| jeez
i hate this whole thing... im not for or against m$, but i think that if i MADE the operating system, i would put whatever the hell i wanted in it -- its mine, you cant tell me what to and what not to put in it, if you dont want it -- dont buy it, simple as that.. as for real networks losing $1bn, how about they make their own operating system and see how much they lose then since they want their player used so badly... its not like you HAVE to use windows media player; yes it comes pre-installed with your windows installation -- but oh my, how hard is it if say you actually wanted to use real player is it to install real player and make the file assocations go with it? not that freakin' hard... these companies now a days need to grow up; its because of them that so many individuals make stupid ass law suits like the fat people suing mcdonalds. |
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ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
Premium
join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
·Internet Nebraska
| reply to SystemE
Re: Microsoft
said by SystemE  :
Wow, I'm supporting Microsoft on this one. Even WMP is waaaaaay better than that sh*t RealNetworks puts out.
I agree. This is a case I hope Microsoft wins.
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ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
Premium
join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
·Internet Nebraska
| The Problem
Microsoft has become a money pinata. Now if a software company fails to reap gross profits, they blame Microsoft even if it's not their fault and sue them.
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ATTGUY2
join:2002-06-02
Fremont, CA
| Real Player Bites
I have installed several versions of Real Player on several different computers over the years from homemade systems to name brands including laptops. I never have gotten it to work realiably at any point in time. And every time I turn around there is a new version out. Finally after years of error messages, jumpy playback, distorted audio and a whole host of other problems including "illegal program operation errors", I gave up.
Real Player does have a point though. Microsoft can include any utility or applette on their operating system they want to before it leaves the door but I don't think real Player has been damaged as much as they say. |
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| As much as I hate Micro$oft
I hope MS wins this one. The lesser of two evils maybe !??
I would never ever install that virus called RealNetworks. Maybe they can get some money out of MS, but they will never see any of mine. RealNetworks and AOL banished themselves off any of my systems years ago.
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whomedave
join:2002-02-08
Sturtevant, WI | Real player is garbage
it just is. |
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pianotech
Pianotech
Premium
join:2002-12-30
New Castle, PA
| reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: The Problem
said by ArchAngel21x :
Microsoft has become a money pinata. Now if a software company fails to reap gross profits, they blame Microsoft even if it's not their fault and sue them.
You are absolutely correct. The purpose of antitrust laws is to protect competition itself, not to protect bad competitors from good ones. When people buy a computer, they want it to work out of the box, and for it to be complete. That includes the ability to play media files. The Fed would rather you have to go looking for software to complete your package, and then tout how much it has helped the consumer. Imagine buying a Chevy that was mandated to have a Ford steering wheel. Or better yet, NO steering wheel. You had to go shopping for that after you bought the car in the interest of competition.
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aszure3
You Only Live Once
Premium
join:2000-07-11
Spokane, WA
clubs: |  Your all right
Realplayer SUCKS! |
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Anti_Cyrix
Premium
join:2003-03-06
Sacramento, CA | reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: Microsoft
Ooooh... Going against microsoft? This should be fun to watch. |
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lazarus_
join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU
| reply to SystemE
said by SystemE :
Wow, I'm supporting Microsoft on this one. Even WMP is waaaaaay better than that sh*t RealNetworks puts out.
I think both programs are crap.. I never use RealPlayer or media player..
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dave
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio | Real Networks sues Zone Labs et. al.
Maybe Real should also sue all makers of outbound firewalls, for intercepting their attempts to make a business out of theft of personal information... |
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Anti_Cyrix
Premium
join:2003-03-06
Sacramento, CA | reply to whomedave
Re: Real player is garbage
That's why I tend to use Winamp.
Winamp5 just came out. I haven't tried it yet though. |
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clowny
Premium
join:2003-09-09
Crystal Lake, IL | reply to aszure3
Re: Your all right
said by aszure3 :
Realplayer SUCKS!
ditto |
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to pianotech
Re: The Problem
said by pianotech :
You are absolutely correct. The purpose of antitrust laws is to protect competition itself, not to protect bad competitors from good ones. When people buy a computer, they want it to work out of the box, and for it to be complete. That includes the ability to play media files.
I completely agree here.
It's one thing when you deliberately screw up somebody from competing with you. it's naother when because you can't compete, you feel like suing your competition to keep yourself in the game (e.g. RIAA).
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Da22in
Buck Fush
join:2002-06-10
Charlotte, NC
clubs:
| the American way
I have to agree with everyone, RealNetworks is a lame company with an even lamer player. Of course, since their products suck vacuum and no sensible person will spend their money on such dung, they want a slice of MS pie. Maybe a class action suit is in order vs. RealNetworks for releasing a substandard player laden with spyware and bugs?
RealNetworks really should just stfu and be happy they still have a job. It's surprising they haven't been assimilated and absorbed by a larger corporation -- like Microsoft!  |
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ChrisAdan650
join:2003-05-10
Daly City, CA
| reply to dave
Heh, Jackass's!
Real Networks should try releasing a product that would attract more consumers rather than just going out and suing Microsoft because they just can't compete with their products. Another reason why they're probably suing is because they know they have a good chance of winning the case. I hope they get squashed, counter-sued, and end up being a division with Microsoft itself. Heh, that would be grand. |
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ks_av8r
Premium
join:2003-09-17
Newton, KS
| reply to SystemE
Re: Microsoft
Here too! After the spouse let Real Player upgrade to Realone and my firewall lit up like a xmas tree for all the phoning home it wanted to do, I dumped the whole POS. Spent time cleaning the registry and restoring the system files through system file checker that it either deleted or overwrote.
So all the websites that use Real only, we are not able to view their media.
I have been thinking of reloading (oldversion) Real 7 just for Oprah (due to spousal pressure).
Instead of sueing MS maybe Real should merge with Gator and Bonzi Buddy. |
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ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
Premium
join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
·Internet Nebraska
| reply to Anti_Cyrix
Re: Real player is garbage
said by Anti_Cyrix :
That's why I tend to use Winamp.
Winamp5 just came out. I haven't tried it yet though.
It's great. It lets you use Win Amp 2 skins and plugins! However Win Amp 5 still takes a bit longer to load than Win Amp 2.
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Anti_Cyrix
Premium
join:2003-03-06
Sacramento, CA | That's why I didn't like Winamp3 much. It takes a lot more resources than Winamp2. I still have Winamp2 on all of my computers. |
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