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Comments on news posted 2004-01-13 09:32:13: The nation's first non-trial broadband via power-line city is set to go live next week. Residents of Manassas, Virginia will see speeds between 560 and 840kbps for $27.00 a month - via their electrical outlets. ..

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Vamp
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Wow !!

I was expecting they wouldnt even think of doing it for atleast a couple more years.. But 840kbps??? I thought it was suppose to have much higher transfer then that... Now if that is 840 Upstream and it has a low ping/no packet loss then that is a good deal..

BTW: thats only 1 state from me..

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vang
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NIce

Edit: dang, someone beat me

The price should be very attrictive, but the speeds are lacking to existing, entrenched technologies. Still, a third player in the "utility" broadband is welcome.

Maybe this is the tier that gets people off of dialup...
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Vamp
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But think that it might be available for those who cant get broadband, I suppose that would be a better option for people then satellite would be.
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Sumeet

join:2000-12-01
Chantilly, VA
reply to Vamp
Re: Wow !!

Only 10 mins from my house in a different county


NeO_JAW
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Upload is the same as Download!

Cool, the speeds are the same up and down! Hurry up and get this deployed in the UK too...
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Mellow
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Business uses

»www.prospectstreet.com/psb/Produ···ices.htm

Not bad pricing for symmetrical services. If the latency and the bandwidth is good that would be a good solution for someone not wanting to speed 800/mnth for a T1. 359/mnth for 1500/1500 is in reach of most smaller businesses. Only thing I dont see on the site is a AUP or SLA, which makes me wonder if they just have not done one yet or the service is shady. Cant wait to see some reviews on this.


armitage

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560 - 840?

just wish people here would get on going and get us those speeds. here, wether cable or dsl, even business packages rarely go over 1mbps down.:(
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Transmaster
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Wondering

How can this be a non-trial when the FCC has not yet ruled on it's permissibility under part 15. It seems to me the the city council is jumping the gun a little. I wonder who is going to be left holding the bag on these deployments.
Of course if this makes the big players march in acting like the cavalry riding in at the last minute to save the day COOL!


blueeyesm

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a possible result?

"Thus, 10 year old little Jimmy, who wanted to be 'online' stuck his tongue in the 'Hot' line of the outlet and his left index finger into the 'Neutral' line,.. so he'd say he had his finger on the pulse of the 'net,... "I saw God!!" he was quoted saying in awe,...'



CheeseWare
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join:2003-04-24
Burnaby, BC

Interesting fine print

As noticed on the Prospect WebSite:

"Speed and uninterrupted use of service are not guaranteed. Acceptance of Prospect Street Terms of Service required. Limit one offer per power line. An installation fee and modem rental fee may apply. Laptop users and some desktop users may need to purchase an Ethernet card. Modem is a new or a fully inspected, tested, and warranted return unit. Self-installation not available in all areas. Other terms and conditions apply. Prospect Street reserves the right to revoke or amend this offer without notice."

All of this for $27/month and a lightweight broadband connection with no roadmap? Not clear what is the initial subscriber investment on top of this: must they purchase a special PLC LAN router? And does it really reach all home outlets once hooked up? I noticed the story refers to an implementation cost but not an operation and maintenance cost... Some Washington DC area lawyers will certainly do well on BPL deployment. Who is holding the money bag if this does not work out technically (aka RF interference), financially and/or in the regulatory area?


ctceo
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See...

The FCC has already ruled that BPL is classified as a Part 15 device.

It hasn't been causing significant interference in radio transmissions, thus the FCC ruling to leave it alone for now. Assured they are still reviewing pleas, and complaints that it will bring upon us the apocalyptic , But all independent & sponsored testing has failed to provide significant evidence that it is interfering with licensed radio devices or emergency communications to such an extent that it is by far "polluting".

It's about time that they "Make it official".

I await my Utility Company to rollout their test bed, and know that it will be just as good here.

N0JCG

join:2003-07-18
Minneapolis, MN
What test results? Where are they published? BPL providers have provided nothing except paper studies.


Cuchulainn
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Chevy Chase, MD
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reply to NeO_JAW
Re: Upload is the same as Download!

said by NeO_JAW See Profile:
Hurry up and get this deployed in the UK too...

Don't hold yer breath. BT will squash this like it squashed DSL back in the late 90s.

David95037

join:2003-04-16
Morgan Hill, CA
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reply to CheeseWare
Re: Interesting fine print

said by CheeseWare See Profile:
As noticed on the Prospect WebSite:
Modem is a new or a fully inspected, tested, and warranted return unit.
Guess that many of the modems were last used in Linz!!!


Transmaster
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Re: See...

said by ctceo See Profile:
The FCC has already ruled that BPL is classified as a Part 15 device. But all independent & sponsored testing has failed to provide significant evidence that it is interfering with licensed radio devices or emergency communications to such an extent that it is by far "polluting".

All this means is the FCC has declared it has jurisdiction
over this technology, it doesn't mean it has been excepted
and given FCC approval. As for no evidence of interference go to the link below for just one example.
»www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/01/08/2/?nc=1--

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hamnotforbpl

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Re: Wow !!

bpl good or bad is not the point here the point is the fcc and the head of it is micheal powell he wants bpl no matter what and he can get backed up because his brother is cowell powell sectary of state. bpl may not leave till both powells leave office that my 2 cents.

wtansill
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said by hamnotforbpl:
bpl good or bad is not the point here the point is the fcc and the head of it is micheal powell he wants bpl no matter what and he can get backed up because his brother is cowell powell sectary of state. bpl may not leave till both powells leave office that my 2 cents.
You're joking right? *Colin* Powel is *Michael* Powel's FATHER
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David95037

join:2003-04-16
Morgan Hill, CA
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Same as the Linz system which was shut down

Main.Net who provide the equipment for Manassas also provided the equipment in Linz, Austria. The Linz system was shut down due to massive interference that was 10,000 times the permitted level.

Meanwhile, in Japan they have over 1,000,000 FTTH connections already and are adding 25,000 a week. (Japan closely examined BPL and banned it due to the spectrum pollution).

Looks as if we are the dumping ground for the world’s unwanted and failed ideas.

Kommie

join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT
Wow Upload!!!

Get this deployed soon maybe comcast will see upload competition. For 27 dollars a month and 840/840 I will switch in seconds....

powrful1

join:2000-10-16
Salina, KS
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At some point soon

Everything will be wireless. That is where everything is going. You will have your dsl and cable or sat that will set up communication points just like 802.011a/b/g. Many places like airports, malls, schools, and hotels are already there.

I know tell me something you don't already know....well the cost is going to go down. Ease will go up, and happy people will be abound...I see it will be like cell phone service where as you will get your minutes like unlimited, and then if you want a server or something it will be extra.
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