vwtoys
join:2001-08-13
Torrance, CA | For the right price..
I'll take a no-frills connection at a lower price point. I don't care about emails offered by ISPs anyways.  |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Most US ISP's won't do this.....
Why you ask?
How many of them claim all you pay for is a connection? Most claim newsgroups are free and so is email. If either one goes out, no credit for services.
Now, say Comcast (for example) would offer a bare bones connection for $30/month vs. their $42/month for cable TV subscribers. All of a sudden we see that email and newsgroups are worth $12 in price reductions. Then people would want credits near that amount if email goes down.
Also, this is easy money for the ISP. Bare bones cuts back on profits. |
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
Premium
join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Sounds Good...
No problem with me, at least then I wouldn't have expectations (as I did when I had OOL) which my service provider failed to meet (i.e. decent usenet, reliable e-mail, extra services etc.), and the users at large would not have to carry the cost of such services.
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dave
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Absolutely ...
I want my Internet connection to be like my phone connection. I want "IP dial tone" and that's about it. I specifically do not want any content, any web portal, etc.
(FWIW, that's why I favour DSL over cable: my feeling is that a historical pipe-provider is more likely than a historical content-provider to grasp the "I just want a connection" mindset).
Right now I use my ISP email account because it's there, but I'm not overly attached to that concept. I've just been too lazy to do anything about it. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| No BS internet? Sure!
I wouldn't mind a basic connection, I very seldom/never use the email from Comcast. The portal is ok at best and loads slow(cable internet providers's own page loading slow???). I don't use the "Free" 1gig Giganews. Knock of $12.95 so its $30.00 per month without the "fluff" that I don't use anyway... sounds good to me! |
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Shootist
Premium
join:2003-02-10
Decatur, GA
| reply to vwtoys
Re: For the right price..
Well for the price of $28 for 384D/128U I'll stay with the feature provider at $50 and 1.5MbD/256KbU. Cut the cost by 40%, I would be paying 60% of what I now pay, and cut the speed by 77%D and 50%U and cut out all the other stuff offered. I don't think so.
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
| Yep
I like the idea of a bare-bones broadband. I think if you'd like extra "features" you could pay an extra $5-$10/month. Then you'd have e-mail, spam blocker, anti-virus, spyware removal, etc. People on this site might not realise it but a lot of people like the proprietary portals and stuff. And I think if they want it they should have it offered, and for those that don't want it we can simply lower our bill a few bucks. Just my dos pesos.
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haplo2112
join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA | I'd like a choice of services
They can bag the web space and email so far as I am concerned, just loosen up the AUP/TOS so I can run my own web and email server. The only thing they offer that I truly desire is newsgroup access. |
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bpx
join:2003-01-25
Saint Augustine, FL
| Econo - Broadband
Sounds like that deal will appeal to the non gamers and downloaders, how about cheaper cable and DSL at the same speed. My wife is constantly bitching about the price of the connection, but she would also be bitching if the speed of the internet was slower. |
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Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | reply to vwtoys
Re: For the right price..
I will go a step further. All I need is a connection and IP. Isp dns, mail, news, etc sucks anyway(in general). |
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
·Cox HSI
| Keep it simple for me
I don't use COX email because of 50+ spams per day, I would rather have the credit $$$.
I don't have a web page, and I would rather have the credit $$$.
I don't use news groups and I would rather have the credit $$$.
I just need a connection to the internet.
Just my 2 cents. |
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The Beer
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together
Premium
join:2001-07-24
Omaha, NE
clubs:
 ·ViaTalk
| Qwest offers this now!
Obviously there is the usual DSL transport charge however when you do your ISP with them directly now they will let you do "No Frills" for $6.00/mo
This is killer for business or home users who run their own servers, since before you had to get the officeworks package @ $34.99/MO THEN get your statics for $14.99/MO, now it's just 6 |
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jjoshua
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| reply to Maxo
Re: Yep
said by Maxo  :
I like the idea of a bare-bones broadband. I think if you'd like extra "features" you could pay an extra $5-$10/month. Then you'd have e-mail, spam blocker, anti-virus, spyware removal, etc. People on this site might not realise it but a lot of people like the proprietary portals and stuff. And I think if they want it they should have it offered, and for those that don't want it we can simply lower our bill a few bucks. Just my dos pesos.
We're talking about the phone and cable companies here.
Your bill will never go down - it will only go up less.
Once the services are offered a-la carte, you will pay more to get the same service. |
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ChrisDAT
Google Keyword Compsysnyc
join:2002-02-26
Hollis, NY
|  It'll Fly if it Lowers the Price
...Especially for users who already have those other "bundled services" like AOL... At some point, the broadband and dialup ISPs will have to deal with the same issue as the cell phone service providers, where users will want to keep email addresses [which tightly imply identity], regardless of what provider they use. I use HotMail for that reason, and I also maintain a "limited" AT&T dial account because my AT&T mail account is plastered on so much of my paper, that I can't afford to change. I also have a personal web page from Angelfire/Lycos for the same reason.
Many web users do not use the email that comes with their service because it limits their "freedom" to select/change providers because they already have an "established" email address -- I wonder how the ISPs that provide the no frills service would communicate with subscribers. While not glaringly obvious, it is possible to experience the 'web without an email address, the usenet [NNTP Newsgroups], or a personal web page -- moreover, those services exist both free and by subscription by independent providers on the internet.
However, like I said, it should then cost less. |
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RogerDucky
join:2002-01-04
Plano, TX
| Bare Bones? Naaa. Metered? Maybe...
While metered seems fairly "bad," a properly implemented one isn't too horrible...
For example, my DSL ISP, August.net, does a metered access based on bandwidth. They don't "cut you off" after the allocated amount and instead charges an overage fee based on the amount you go over. Their logging of bandwidth usage is accurate, and, in the event of errors, errs in favor of their customers.
Because their bandwidth usage is based on adding the upload and download usages together, their usage policies are a bit more liberal than most.
But, bare bones with no email, newsgroups, or web... that's kinda iffy. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Where they could really add value....
Personally, I'd rather see an option where the ISP doesn't add the e-mail, server storage, and other things I don't want, but instead offers a professionally maintained and near bullet-proof security suite.
Many ISPs have recognized the security issue by bundling starter packs with some security software & service, but if they really stepped up to the plate and included it on their router, instead of burning my CPU time to get it done, and they managed/updated it as well, I think they'd see some serious takers. Of course, there would be some issues of configuration and settings for individual users, but those would be merely difficult, not impossible, for an ISP or underlying security provider to resolve.
In the great scheme of product life-cycles, though, it's probably necessary that the "bare-bones" version come out first, before the "alternate security enabled" version sees the light of day--so I think the "bare-bones" option is probably a good one for now.
Yours with wishful thinking,
Calvoiper
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL | Bare bones good
pay by hour is bad, very bad.
Anyone remember hearing the N00bs paying $700 a month in the late 90s?
Thats what by the hour means |
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CPM
join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL | reply to vwtoys
Re: For the right price..
sounds good to me also. So now the million doller question. How much? And what speeds are we talking about?
I see your hand and raise you. |
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The Beer
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together
Premium
join:2001-07-24
Omaha, NE
clubs: | reply to Varangian
Re: Bare bones good
Ahhh yes, AOL by the hour I remember...
I paid AOL more an hour than I made, still paying those credit cards off... |
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
Premium
join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| reply to haplo2112
Re: I'd like a choice of services
Agreed... if I could get inexpensive bare-bones connectivity which allows my own mail (and perhaps web) server and no port blocks I'd be happy, even if it is a little slower than what I get now.
Another option could be a la carte services that can be added on, such as additional/backup DNS servers, web hosting, static IP, additional speed/bandwidth, etc. Just pay for what you need. Hmm.. maybe I should start my own broadband ISP...  |
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