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Comments on news posted 2004-01-27 15:25:06: With our ear to the train tracks, unsubstantiated rumors indicate SBC should unveil a number of new promotions in February in the hopes of worrying cable executives. Among the changes, sources indicate, is a package somewhere between 1. ..

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Mrq5
The Fab Four

join:1999-08-21
Warren, MI


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No Brainer for me and SBC

If SBC can offer these speeds without any additional costs for them then why not, just more loot for them. Of course SBC MUST make sure that customers meet the REQUIREMENTS. As painful as it is if you dont have a clean line or live within the required distance SBC wont even discuss this package with you. This is what will keep the price down for the rest of us:) Just imagine all the over head it would cost SBC to support a resident with a unstable line or at 10,000+ feet. Such a customer would request a truck roll every week in an effort to get to 3Megs+.

Fortunately for me I qualify:) I had this package when it was $99 and only 384kbs upload, I really couldnt justify the cost when SBC had such sweet 1.5 deals. For $50ish this will be a no-brainer for me and the extra upload will be icing. I love ice-cream and cake:)
jdir

join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA

$26.95 for basic DSL

I resubscribe via Yahoo DSL and they only display the basic DSL package which has a max speed rate of 384Kbps. If I were go to SBC DSL page, I could have select DSL Basic plus which allow me to go to 1.5Mbps for $26.95. I called in trying to fix the order (my line does handle up to 768Kbps just fine) but they want another $3. There is no way to cancel a DSL order if you make a mistake!!
djrobsd

join:2002-01-24
San Diego, CA

We're lucky SOB's in the USA

50 bucks a month for 6 megs down?? WOW! I support users that work for our company who are in France, Australia, Germany, and Malaysia. They would KILL to get 1 megabit, let alone 6. They pay about 2x as much as we do in the states, and most of them are lucky to get 512kbps.

Needless to say, I went ahead and ordered the 6/608 package from DSL Extreme. I can't wait to see if it ACTUALLY works. I'm only 6000 feet from my CO and I was only pulling about 800kbps download speed with the MCI DSL, but for that I blame MCI, let's hope SBC can make it right.

In the meantime, I'm on my lovely Cox connection, 3000/256, and it's humming along quite nicely for 3 months.
Hilton Head

join:2000-11-04
Miamisburg, OH

T.V. Ads

Time Warner is advertising their T.V. Ads about their Road Runner saying that Road Runner is better then DSL. I saw an Ad saying that Road Runner is much faster then DSL. Another Ad was saying that there are three times the number of Cable subscribers then DSL subscribers. Now I do not know what to believe, because SBC is now working on trying to meet or beat the cable services. Does anyone have any fact about this?

superht1

join:2001-02-22
Kennesaw, GA
·AT&T Southeast

Re: T.V. Ads

44.95 for 3-6mbit/384-608kbps sounds about right to me
OOL is still twice as fast on download thought but with NO UPLOAD cap from SBC, it is a better choice!
Let's hopes that what they have coming Feb 2.is for real, otherwise I be quite disappointed, and this will just be another rumor to bait most cable user to switch over. Eitherway, SBC is still better then cable with no download/upload restriction.

AmeritecTech
Change we can believe in, 1922
Premium
join:2002-09-06
Houston, TX

said by Hilton Head See Profile:
Time Warner is advertising their T.V. Ads about their Road Runner saying that Road Runner is better then DSL. I saw an Ad saying that Road Runner is much faster then DSL. Another Ad was saying that there are three times the number of Cable subscribers then DSL subscribers. Now I do not know what to believe, because SBC is now working on trying to meet or beat the cable services. Does anyone have any fact about this?

No facts until 2/2.
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hottboiinnnc

join:2003-08-27
Fremont, OH

Re: T.V. Ads

You would say this since you work for SBC from the name you have on here. SBC will say anything to get business from people. Most of the way to save money from SBC is actually by signing a contract at that time. then the prices drop and your fuc*ed cause you cant sign up again due to the damn customer service reps. SBC also has a number of ppl that work in that company are young people that dont know shit about anything.

Also i was able to get SBC DSL when it was with Producy but when it went Yahoo! They cut the distance in almost half total around the country. No I'm unable to get it. But since my problems with SBC theres NO WAY IN HELL I'd get their service even if they were the last broadband company. Time Warner is the only other option. and they give us a lot more options for cable modem.

Since Earthlink moved their tech support to India I changed to AOL Broadband and then after that promotion I'm going to RoadRunner. Better services, better customer service, and People speak english!

Also the ads TWC have been showing regarding more cable customers on TWC's RR network than DSL is true in TWC areas due to the problems getting the service. TWC does not have as many problems with the service. Also for what they charge for cable Modem service you can get FREE cable TV channels as well. Just plug the TV into the outlet and theres your expanded cable service. Not the same with DSL.. and why if you have cable modem service be tied to SBC or another LEC when you can get VoIP and cable modem service? or even a cell phone? doesn't make sense?

But then again. people just like spending money.

AmeritecTech
Change we can believe in, 1922
Premium
join:2002-09-06
Houston, TX

Re: T.V. Ads

said by hottboiinnnc See Profile:
You would say this since you work for SBC from the name you have on here.
No one has any facts until 2/2. Until then, its all just speculation.

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Most of the way to save money from SBC is actually by signing a contract at that time. then the prices drop and your fuc*ed cause you cant sign up again due to the damn customer service reps.
Current customers qualify for promotions. All they have to do is re-up their contract.

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why if you have cable modem service be tied to SBC or another LEC when you can get VoIP and cable modem service? or even a cell phone? doesn't make sense?

But then again. people just like spending money.

Perhaps because people want more speed?
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Independent thinkers tend to ALWAYS have someone not agreeing with them. It's the non-thinkers that always come in legions." -John Callari

Agent 86

Excellent...

This is very good news. Hopefully Comcast will respond by raising the caps even further (Optimum Online levels would be nice...)

JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
·Comcast

waiting.... for static Ip plan info :)

Well, the three of us SBC DSL folks with static IP plans are also hopeful we'll get something at the higher speeds.

I'm on a RT at 1.5/256, which is actually 1.5/256 24/7. I'd love to go to 6.0/600 for about the same price I'm paying now ($60ish) keeping my 5 fixed IPs.

hope springs eternal.

deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE

Re: waiting.... for static Ip plan info :)

I hear ya...though I doubt $60/mo will happen for static 6.0/608...perhaps $80 (which is the current deluxe-s price point). We'll have to wait and see...
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"I drank what?" -Socrates

Vince9256

@attbi.com

DSL deployment is a joke

Unfortunately,There Isn't a wide spread deployment of DSL yet. The Verizon CEO made a statement that said they had 80% deployment,This is laughable! Untill there's widespread DSL deployment,The cable operators will do and charge whatever they want! It's hard to believe that the telcos can't outfit large urban and suburban areas in major cities! Of course,the "deployment" could be contingent upon government handouts! Look what they did in PA! I don't think they're the Good-guys!

Sharingan

join:2003-08-17
North Hollywood, CA

Re: DSL deployment is a joke

So what is it:
1.5 ~ 6.0 Down
or
1.5 ~3.0 Down????????

RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast

Still no DSL out in Calpella, Redwood Valley, CA

Doesn't do me any good, the Calpella, CA SBC CO still has no DSL, only the main office in Ukiah has it. I get 4500 down and 500 up with Adelphia Powerlink, and very low latency, so I am very happy with them, but I'd like to have a choice, and a lower price
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Dennis692

@megapath.net

Willl distance from CO ever increase?

I am in Martinsville Indiana and I am about 2000 feet away from the Mooresville CO. Is Ameritech ever going to be able to get me DSL? Cable is not an option in my area and I have 2 way Satellite now....it sux but it is better than dial-up

DavisPhotog
Flyingphotog
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-26
Oakland, CA
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Catchy Title.

Currently paying the $25/mo plan for SBC's 1500/256 plan, I get 1280/220 most of the time, rock solid. If they can provide me with at least 3000/500 for $45/mo I'd certainly take it, but only if they could do it with stability like it's done now.

A person I am working on a website for right now does DSL provisioning, I'll have to ask her if she's heard anything about what's going on.

PS, I'm about 9600 feet from the CO, I wonder how this would affect speeds....

laura
Domestic Bliss
Premium
join:2002-04-16
San Jose, CA

Re: Catchy Title.

said by DavisPhotog See Profile:
Currently paying the $25/mo plan for SBC's 1500/256 plan, I get 1280/220 most of the time, rock solid. If they can provide me with at least 3000/500 for $45/mo I'd certainly take it, but only if they could do it with stability like it's done now.

A person I am working on a website for right now does DSL provisioning, I'll have to ask her if she's heard anything about what's going on.

PS, I'm about 9600 feet from the CO, I wonder how this would affect speeds....

$45 a month for those speeds? I wonder if I should get rid of Comcast.. ($60/month now for about 1700/250). My 4 months for $20/month just ended.
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callihn4

join:2002-01-10
Space

Rts Rts Rts Rts Rts Rts

Most of the cable subscribers can't even get DSL because Bell won't turn up the RTs. I don't care how low your prices get, I can't pay you anything if you won't let me, now can I?
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cmcgilton

join:2001-03-14
Stow, OH

Happy RoadRunner Customer

Using RoadRunner - 2004-01-31 06:51:16 Speed test @ blt.speakeasy.net 3103/375 kbps for $44.95 month. Service level is 3000/384 so RoadRunner is certainly providing me more speed than advertised .

SBC's offer 1500/384 Max for $26.95 month whereby real world speeds would at best likely be 1230/325 or so. This would then equate to about 1/3 download speed at about 1/2 cost.

RoadRunner wins hands-down!

Now if SBC was to truly offer a 3000-6000/384 package at the $45 range then I might go for it because potential would exist for faster speeds at the same money.

dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
·Armstrong Zoom In..
·AT&T Midwest

What about availability?

The prices seem perfect as they are now, 2 years ago we could've only dreamed of this. You've got people, like me, who are barely out of service range for DSL and have the world's worse cable service therefore can't get broadband! I seriously think if we focused on increasing availability so the whole country can get it rather than working on speeds first, you could potentially offer broadband for a much lower price than they offer now, if everyone can get it. The internet, as with the computer, are basically your hose hold necessities now. I am literally deprived of broadband.
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There is no chance Broadband will ever become available to me!

jeisenberg
New Year's Eve

join:2001-07-06
Windsor, ON
·Cogeco Cable
·Cogeco Voip

Canadian Cable ISPs rock

Cogeco Cable offers "home users" a 5Mb down/640K up package for $45CDN ($40CDN if you subscribe to cable TV as well). They implement "soft caps" of 15GB/month, which, so far, have not resulted in any sanctions I'm aware of. Some of the guys on Cogeco forum talk about doing over 100GB/month, but I can't vouch for their truthfulness.

And their speed is #2 after OOL. I think that's a great deal.

Someone had posted that costs are kept low outside the U.S. to attract subscribers. In Canada, cable territories are protected, so there's no need to compete with anyone except DSL carriers/resellers. And per capita net (and HS net) use in Canada is among the highest in the world (at least 2 times the per capita rate of the U.S.)

NMichigan

@207.72.x.x

It aint so bad ...

I live in an area that still had party lines 10 years ago.If you dont know what that is ask your grandpa.hehe.A couple hundred people can get Charter Internet for $60.00 a month.1.5 mbs cap.The rest of us are stuck with dial-up.I spoke with SBC about getting dsl they said it may take awhile but they are putting up new lines.hmm its been 2 years.I ll probally stop holding my breath and get sattelite
broadband for $49.95 for 56k upload 400k download 500MB download cap a month.Just thought it might make add a little perspective to this conversation.
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