tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY
| Take ES5 OUT!
Please, ES5 is bunch of bloated program with lame and out dated features that they are using to promote their unrealistic cloaking from the RIAA.
WASTE is the best for annymous p2p because it's hard to get in to the "group" and second all transmissions are encrypted, making RIAA wasteful to sniff packets that looks garbage.
Small and trusted p2p network is the safest p2p network IMO. |
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borborpa
Slipping Slowly Into Oblivion
Premium
join:2002-02-20
New Cumberland, PA
clubs: | Lord of the Rings
"the gaze of that confounded RIAA eye peering over the mountains of Mordor."
That made me laugh my ass off!
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warlock56
Premium
join:2002-07-31
Arlington, TX | File sharing too risky?
Bah, just use newsgroups |
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DareboyNYC
join:2001-10-04
New York, NY | A star born?
Has anyone heard of something called Supernova? |
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DONKEYKONG01
join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA | reply to warlock56
Re: File sharing too risky?
Only the laws can protect you from the RIAA/MPAA's lawsuit, no cloaking method is going to stop them anytime soon! Looking for a target to sue is very easy for them as there are still many user who are wide open to their intrusion!!! |
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dcnblues
join:2002-09-19
Irving, TX
| reply to warlock56
Newsgroups are great, except for one problem. Not all ISP's carry the 'alt.binary' groups (where all file attachments are supposed to go) AND not all ISP's 'keep' all the messages -- in fact, some deliberately set the expire timeouts low so that if server space is at a premium, a large binary file message will get deleted to make room for several small text messages that are as little as 5 minutes 'newer'.
So newsgroup sharing becomes a 'scavenger hunt' exercise, where you can get MOST of a file youw ant, but have to go hunting for the one message (or four) that will complete the 'collection' and enable you to reassemble your file.
The pay-to-play newsgroup services like Supernews are much better... but their rates are almost as high per month as ISP access (sometimes more, depending on how much data you pull).
But yes, they are reasonably anonymous...keep in mind that posts to USENET go through SMTP (email outbound) so are subject to the same anonymity restrictions (branded with originating IP etc). Most privacy-savvy users can get around this using SMTP proxies and forged headers, but the average Joe probably will not know how to go about doing this. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to DareboyNYC
Re: A star born?
Frankly I'm really surprised that site is still up. I keep waiting for it to die off.....I suppose it just needs one or two mainstream articles on Bit Torrent to do the job...... |
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SaBo7Ge
join:2003-03-12
US
1 edit | reply to warlock56
Re: File sharing too risky?
Newsgroups aren't available to every person freely by their own ISPs and premium pay services that are out there don't come without their limitations.. Newsgroups also aren't necessarily anonymous to the uploader/poster of material either.. I'm actually quite surprised that RIAA/MPAA and their lobbyists haven't focused on this source considering what binaries groups offer to their downloaders. I'd assume that their focus is centered around the easiest target that is the most publicised amongest fairly uneducated PC users. Although one must wonder how long this trend will last until the watchdog groups eventually set their sights higher on bittorrent and newsgroups as well... |
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SaBo7Ge
join:2003-03-12
US
1 edit | reply to Karl Bode
Re: A star born?
Practically took the words out of my mouth... Bittorrent isn't anonymous and its users can be traced. The seeder sites posting links usually are high traffic as well which means they're public and just as easily a target for lawsuits or DDoS attacks... |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
 ·Comcast
| Centralization is bad. Only encryption will do.
So the RIAA just subpoenas this guy's company for the information passing through the companies proxys instead of going after the end users. Or they sue and shut him down.
Unless you are doing end to end encryption it doesn't matter how many proxy servers you jump through. You can still be traced back to your source, it just takes a court order. |
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Cheetah9
join:2001-01-07
Bethel Park, PA | reply to dcnblues
Re: File sharing too risky?
And then you have companies like Covad who get their feeds from Supernews, but then put unrealistically LOW speed caps on your downloads. That really sucks!
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
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Re: Centralization is bad. Only encryption will do.
I think the idea is that his company and servers are in a country the RIAA can't touch, but still, its just not going to do any good. At the rate they are going, the RIAA is going to have their own special-ops forces in about 6 months. 
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GOFUGYOURSELF
|  With ANY luck, all of the Pirates will ROT in Jail
With any luck, every scumbag Pirate and P2P enabler will get his "day in court" and then ROT in jail.
You gotta be pretty fugging dumb to think society is gonna allow you to steal someone else's artistic work. Get a fugging job like the rest of us and you won't need to steal. |
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furlonium
Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA
| said by GOFUGYOURSELF:
You gotta be pretty fugging dumb to think society is gonna allow you to steal someone else's artistic work....
I totally agree, Britney Spears' Toxic video is SOOO artistic. GOD what are we thinking? /smashes self in face with brick. |
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Albo
join:2002-09-06
Brooklyn, NY | reply to GOFUGYOURSELF
You must be a " struggling Artist",well too bad  |
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Counterstric
I Was Here
join:2002-07-18 | Re: With ANY luck, all of the Pirates will ROT in
Do not feed the trolls!
Nice troll Mr. Annoymous |
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kirbdoc
join:2003-09-28
Milton, FL | reply to Morac
Re: Centralization is bad. Only encryption will do.
Ever read Digital Fortress? |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | reply to tdkyo
Re: Take ES5 OUT!
Uh oh, you've done it now! Expect the pro ES5 trolls to be
showing up here any moment.  |
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clowny
Premium
join:2003-09-09
Crystal Lake, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Counterstric
Re: With ANY luck, all of the Pirates will ROT in
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DivineDark
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
| Sounds to me it was an oportunity of a lifetime for earthstation. What if earthstation got big. I mean really big. millions of users. One day they call the riaa and say. "what if we told you we could delete billions of mp3s of computers in a one time deal. How much would you pay us?" |
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