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Comments on news posted 2004-03-18 11:19:35: Bway.net is hoping to lure RIAA wary customers with a new anonymous DSL service dubbed AnonDSL. ..

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ronpin
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Heh-heh -- wait til the CALEA folks come-a-knocking

dardin

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ummmmmm............

How smart is this? Not smart at all. Just think of all the idiots who will use this service and get infected with viruses and the company cannot even contact their customers to inform them they are infected because they don't know which customers are infected. Not to mention if someone is hacking or doing other illegal things. If I was a spammer I'd be ordering this service today. You can spam and not even your ISP can identify it's coming from you.

This was created by a marketing department and I bet the network admins of this company are in a uproar over this.

Stupidest idea I have ever read. I'll be sure to blacklist this company from my mail servers.


David
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 Well now

I wonder where most of the spammers and hackers are going to park now.. This can be good, remember in the james bond movie in the beginning where all the terrorists are buying weapons.. Just think we can take out all the internet problems in one swift stroke..
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reply to dardin
Re: ummmmmm............

I don't understand what you mean at all.
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Just think of all the idiots who will use this service and get infected with viruses and the company cannot even contact their customers to inform them they are infected because they don't know which customers are infected.


micl
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This is how all ISPs should act

This is how the phone company acts... as a common carrier. Once ISPs start meddling in content, they are on a slippery slope when it comes to having to enforce content restrictions of any sort.

Note that doing business this way does not put them above the law... it just takes them out of the police business. If DOJ or other police authority has a proper subpoena then they would have to comply, but that would leave the enforcement to those authorities and not the ISP.
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dardin

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reply to justin
Re: ummmmmm............

Basically they have no way to track their own abuse issues. They will have customers infected with viruses or hacked and they will have no way to know what customer it is.

This ISP will be like most of China.


justin
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no ISPs act on that information anyway.
Contact a local ISP and tell them one of their subscribers is doing port scans, they don't do anything about it. So no loss.


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reply to David
Re: Well now

I am more worried about my privacy than a few extra spam messages. I seem to get them anyway, so how would this hurt?
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Re: This is how all ISPs should act

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If DOJ or other police authority has a proper subpoena then they would have to comply, but that would leave the enforcement to those authorities and not the ISP.

I wonder about their ability to trace, if it is truly anonymous.
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Mellow
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not to cheap

$65/month for 1.5/128 . Not the cheapest provider on the block. Seems odd you would pay to have a static ip then not have the static ip and pay more to have the anondsl. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Not to mention the pricey setup fee.


gamecock

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reply to dardin
Re: ummmmmm............

said by dardin See Profile:
How smart is this?
This is very smart for a company wanting to attract a lot of users. This is a great service for file sharers and privacy freaks.

I'm too far from the Co to get DSL. If I could get it, I would sign up immediately.


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reply to Mellow
Re: not to cheap

said by Mellow See Profile:
$65/month for 1.5/128 . Not the cheapest provider on the block. Seems odd you would pay to have a static ip then not have the static ip and pay more to have the anondsl. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Not to mention the pricey setup fee.

if the service is as claimed, it's worth every penny
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Transmaster
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Total horse crap

There is no privacy on the Net. What one programmer compiles
another de-compiles; The Gospel of St. Bill chapter 3 ver 13
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Easy to Block

They have to register the block of Public IP addresses, so it would be as easy to block all their traffic or even their domain in general. I would think that if you go to their service, you may be doing your self a dis-service due to just that issue. Honestly - if they get this up and running, I will block every public IP they have so as to insure that I won't have issues with them in the future :P


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Re: Total horse crap

It's a viscious cycle, encryption - decryption.


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 reply to justin
Re: ummmmmm............

said by justin See Profile:
no ISPs act on that information anyway.
Contact a local ISP and tell them one of their subscribers is doing port scans, they don't do anything about it. So no loss.

Good point.
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dardin

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reply to djtim21
Re: Easy to Block

Amen to that. I'm sure half the net will black list them in no time, as they become a spammer/virus haven.


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said by djtim21 See Profile:
They have to register the block of Public IP addresses, so it would be as easy to block all their traffic or even their domain in general. I would think that if you go to their service, you may be doing your self a dis-service due to just that issue. Honestly - if they get this up and running, I will block every public IP they have so as to insure that I won't have issues with them in the future :P

Why would you feel that by blocking the domain or IP block you would be any more immune from trouble? The first thing most people will do is go through a proxy. It doesn't even have to be an anonymous proxy since your ISP will be taking care of all that for you. I don't like this idea. Nothing but trouble.


micl
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reply to BadHat
Re: This is how all ISPs should act

said by BadHat See Profile:
I wonder about their ability to trace, if it is truly anonymous.

From the description, it sounds like they could trace on a real time basis perhaps since the ISP isn't saving the logs... but might be required to on a case by case basis if required under a subpeona.
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Megladon13

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reply to dardin
Re: ummmmmm............

2 or 3 terroristic threats to anyone @ whitehouse.gov from users of this service should shut it down rather quick.
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